Phimosis-Anyone experienced Preputioplasty in rectifying it?

last SG · 2008-09-12T15:36:29+00:00

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preputioplastyis an alternative to circumcision which i went thru at 14yo.. Preputioplasty will be less evasivehealing time abou...

antievildoer SG

I know it is expensive but there are certain benefits (and they are important reasons which quite a number of pple aren't aware of) that comes with keeping the foreskin. It takes a much faster time to heal also compared to circumcision. It is expensive becos few places is offering it and also require greater level of skill in performing it.

PlzDunBanMe SG

Why not you tell me about the "benefits" of keeping the foreskin? I'd gladly rebuke them. How long does it take to heal?

BadzMaro SG

*shivers*

darkensun SG

Why not you tell me about the "benefits" of keeping the foreskin? I'd gladly rebuke them. How long does it take to heal?

http://www.noharmm.org/advantage.htm

lol

antievildoer SG

Dear PDBM:

The 5 most sensitive areas of the Penis is actually located on the foreskin. There are various studies and research conducted worldwide which reported pleasure of sexual activities are more enhanced in uncircumcised males than circumcised males. There have also been studies which rebutted the usual thinking that circumcision helps significantly in hygiene. Read also testimonies of circumcised males who lamented they felt loss of sexual pleasure in comparision to prior circumcision.

Circumcision is a must if the condition cannot be resolved by any other means and if there is already infection taking place. Preputioplasty cannot be used if the patient already has an infection. If there are other alternative solutions which can solve the problem for the patient, it should be preferred over circumcision. Circumcision should only be used as the last resort if all other methods have failed or is not viable

Read this: http://www.circumcision.org/studies.htm

Above are just one of the many websites and studies being conducted on the subject of circumcision. I do believe not many people are aware of the possible side effects of circumcision.

Some pple may say such studies are very subjective. Well, why not err on the side of caution and take preventive measures if one knows there are other ways to solve a problem? Why risk it just to save $1500 and that part of your body happens to be one of the most imporant?

I just dun understand why is there a lack of discussion on alternative methods to circumcision in Singapore. Preputioplasty is long available in other european countries but it is strangely rarely spoken off in SG. Everytime when a male in SG has problems such as tight foreskin, the reaction of docs in SG is always either to ask you to do manual stretching or if that fails, circumcision. If one bothers to look through other health related forums in overseas, Preputioplasty has always been spoken of as one of the viable method to treat Phimosis (provided infection hasn't occured).

As for healing, it takes just abt 5 days for complete healing with Preputioplasty and for Circumcision, complete healing takes 2-3 weeks.

antievildoer SG

Read this as well for information on the important functions of the foreskin:

http://www.cirp.org/pages/anat/

The foreskin is not something "redundant". It has its purposes in our overall sexual needs.

XxYaNxX SG

oh....ic but at what age were you operaten on.
i am guessing 5-7 ??

Why don't you just chop it off ?

antievildoer SG

Are you asking me or Iysy?

If its me, I have already explained the reasons and dun wish to repeat myself.

For those who keep thinking the foreskin is just a useless piece of meat that should be just snipped away as and when you like, pls think twice.

XxYaNxX SG

Are you asking me or Iysy?

If its me, I have already explained the reasons and dun wish to repeat myself.

For those who keep thinking the foreskin is just a useless piece of meat that should be just snipped away as and when you like, pls think twice.

Did i quote you ? ...

antievildoer SG

no, you din quote me. you quoted someone else but ask him a question of which the answer is already there, so I thought you might be trying to ask me a question but quote the other guy by mistake.

PlzDunBanMe SG

Read this as well for information on the important functions of the foreskin:

http://www.cirp.org/pages/anat/

The foreskin is not something "redundant". It has its purposes in our overall sexual needs.

Why not you read this as well?

http://www.circlist.com/

antievildoer SG

Thanks for sharing the article. In research studies on any topics, I do acknowledge there is always two sides of argument to a situation. Besides the two articles I brought up, I must have read at least a dozen more such studies throwing questionable doubts on circumcision and the important functions of the foreskin. I do not doubt there could be other benefits of circumcision, but for me, why take a chance if there is other alternative solutions which could solve the same problem and may bring about certain benefits?

Nikar 3 SG

actually, $2500 is very expensive (btw, i'm the "chap" who started a circumcision thread once at: http://www.sgforums.com/forums/8/topics/313205)

i have severe phimosis in that my penis when erect is around 5"5 (14 cm), but my foreskin can only pull back less than 0.1 cm at most, and even then, it's a bit uncomfortable.

will Preputioplasty work in my case? i don't have any infection whatsoever.

actually, i prefer a circumcised penis over a non-circumcised one, because circumcised one looks a lot nicer, but the greatest fear i've is that if you circumcised as adult, the sex experience will be greatly affected due to the constant rubbing of the forehead's glans against underwear.

i'm very scared of not being able to enjoy sex anymore, and worse still, i won't even get erect (or will have soft erection) when i see porn.

for those people who have circumcised during older-teenage years or during adulthood, do you still get aroused when you see porn? are you still able to get erection when you masturbate?

also, i wonder if anyone is going for circumcision this year's end (around nov or dec 08).

i need some moral encourage because now i'm the only one going (nobody else including my family knows about it).

i'm planning to take 3 - 4 days leave and go for laser circumcision (more expensive than traditional circumcision but heals faster and less pain, nicer-looking results), but everytime i think of it, i really freak out.

if anyone plans to go, maybe we can support each other.

PlzDunBanMe SG

the sex experience will be greatly affected due to the constant rubbing of the forehead's glans against underwear.

Having only been circumcised about 2 months ago, I can tell you that the loss of sensitivity after circumcision is NOT mostly due to the rubbing of the exposed glans against underwear. It is in fact, the style of your circumcision. You see, I was circumcised low and moderately tight. Look what they mean if you don't know. Basically, my scar is near the glans (low) and quite a bit of skin was snipped away, hence moderately tight. Hence, a lot of my inner foreskin was cut away as compared to the outer shaft skin. Therefore, my loss of sensitivity was because of the inner skin being cut away. Anyway, you can request for a different circumcision style. Also, I swear by the sensitivity of the scar itself, it's so sensitive, it's sometimes painful to stroke it.

i'm very scared of not being able to enjoy sex anymore, and worse still, i won't even get erect (or will have soft erection) when i see porn.

Of course you'll be able to enjoy sex and get erections.

do you still get aroused when you see porn? are you still able to get erection when you masturbate?

Answered above.

i need some moral encourage because now i'm the only one going (nobody else including my family knows about it).

I underwent that situation too. My doctor told me I needed the operation so I went for it without telling anyone including my family because you just don't go to your mom saying that your foreskin is too tight. You need inner courage. If you're set about the health benefits it will bring, go for it. Trust me, the only time you're afraid would be while you're lying on the operation table itself. Then afer the sedative is given, you won't feel anything, just a little sore, numb and sensitive that's all.

Click on the "Show Quote" button to see my post. Cause I answered it in your quote.

kenshin_himura SG

actually, $2500 is very expensive (btw, i'm the "chap" who started a circumcision thread once at: http://www.sgforums.com/forums/8/topics/313205)

i have severe phimosis in that my penis when erect is around 5"5 (14 cm), but my foreskin can only pull back less than 0.1 cm at most, and even then, it's a bit uncomfortable.

will Preputioplasty work in my case? i don't have any infection whatsoever.

i'm very scared of not being able to enjoy sex anymore, and worse still, i won't even get erect (or will have soft erection) when i see porn.

for those people who have circumcised during older-teenage years or during adulthood, do you still get aroused when you see porn? are you still able to get erection when you masturbate?

also, i wonder if anyone is going for circumcision this year's end (around nov or dec 08).

i need some moral encourage because now i'm the only one going (nobody else including my family knows about it).

if anyone plans to go, maybe we can support each other.

i am thinking of going for one end of this year as i am also suffering the same medical condition. Btw where do u get laser circumcision..... and can anyone recommend where to get it done privately?

Nikar 3 SG

(Plsdunbanme)

thanks a lot for your reply. i've quite a bit of questions to ask you, so hope you don't mind. If you could advise, i'm very sure your answers will help a lot of people who'll be undergoing circumcision soon (like me and Kenshin).

questions:

1) when you go see the doctor, the doctor will advise on the circumcision style and let you choose by showing you pictures?

2) is your scar big and visible? i assume it must look really gross and the penis is kind of "disfigured"? Where's the scar in your case and how big (approx in cm?)

i'm scared to freak out my future gf / wife.

the only time you're afraid would be while you're lying on the operation table itself. Then afer the sedative is given, you won't feel anything, just a little sore, numb and sensitive that's all.

3) so, they apply the anaethesia to numb only penis area while you're awake?

4) is yours the traditional circumcision or the laser one?

5) how long did your surgery take? 15 mins? 25 mins?

6) did you complete the surgery on the 1st time you saw doctor? (as in, you see him the 1st time and you do surgery on the same day)

7) after anaethesia wears off, is it very painful? if very painful, for how many days?

8) did you wear sarong after operation? or just loose underwear?

9) after surgery, when you go home to bath and the water touches the wound, does it hurt?

10) after surgery, does the wound bleed etc.? (i don't want my mom to see my bloodied underwear)

11) did you have problems walking or walking fast?

12) during operation, is the doctor the only one in the room? or are there female nurses?

13) could you provide the address / doctor name where you did the operation?

14) how much did the surgery cost?

15) did you regret going for circumcision?

thanks a lot.

To Kenshin_Himura: I found this website at: urologycentre.com.sg.......the doctor is Ho Siew Hong and seems quite good. I may be going to him as he offers laser circumcision and i'm very scared of the traditional type.

Usquish SG

Wow? Circumcision scares me. >_>

antievildoer SG

Hi Nikar 3,

Dr Ho Siew Hong is the doctor whom I'm planning to consult for my Phimosis problem. He offers Preputioplasty as well at his clinic. I will go for Preputioplasty unless after examination he feels circumcision is better for me. His fees are not cheap by the way. But I feel is well worth it as he is a specialist and expert in this subject.

antievildoer SG

Hi Nikar 3,

I think Iam worse off than you. Mine is not even retractable by 0.1cm.

Yes, $2500 is expensive if compared to circumcision. But look at it this way, circumcision is a bit like shaving your head bald or performing a crew cut on your head and preputioplasty is much like trimming your hair with a style of which not any barber can do. Which is going to cost a lot more? Circumcision is even available at some GPs whereas Preptioplasty is only available at very selective medical places as it is more difficult to do. I will only trust specialists for such a procedure and have chanced upon Dr Ho who seems to possess high credentials in the area of Urology.

I dun think Iam going to be bothered by the appearance of my penis. Iam also inclined to believe Preputioplasty is likely to work for most cases after reading quite a number of feedback from patients who have undergone this procedure in overseas.

For your concerns abt circumcision, here are some articles(besides those that I posted earlier):

http://www.norm-uk.org/circumcision_lost.html

http://www.norm-uk.org/circumcision_unhappy.html

http://www.cirp.org/pages/anat/

I do not want to be here concluding Preputioplasty is going to be better for everyone. But I feel if you have concerns, do give it a thorough thought first before making that decision. Please note that once circumcision is done, the process is irreversible. There are people who after doing circumcision, wanted to do a foreskin restoration. http://www.norm-uk.org/foreskin_restoration.html

If you ask medical doctors such as Dr Ho whether sexual pleasure would be loss with circumcision, he will likely tell you there's no concrete medical evidence that suggest so. Most doctors will tell you that as most medical researches usually will only be able to throw reasonable doubts or findings on a subject but is often not conclusive enough for certain declaration to be made. But that is not to say some of the conjectures made by certain researches has got absolutely no truth in it or has no basis in it whatsoever. You know what I mean right?

Just to let you know also that I originally wanted to do this procedure (Preputioplasty) by end Nov/Dec this yr but will now postponed this to sometime in 1st Quarter to Mid 2009 as I will be too tied down with work committments in End 2008 as I will be joining a new company in Oct 2008 and it will not be good for me to take leave at that time. Do let me know what are you thoughts...

In life, I always feel things happen for a reason...as such, I feel the presence of foreskin on our penis is there for a reason too...But if situation dictates that Circumcision is the only alternative, then I will go for it...Let's see how is the outcome of consulation by Dr Ho..

Nikar 3 SG

(antievildoer)

same here! i've contacted Dr Ho some time ago by e-mail and found that the circumcision surgergy is around S$1500.

I think Iam worse off than you. Mine is not even retractable by 0.1cm.

i think we're about the same.....mine can retract 0.1 cm but only if i tried to pull it back really hard (it hurts a lot), and after a while, it will go back again.

my problem is not just phimosis, but the foreskin is kinda long too.

so, for my case, i'm not sure if preputioplasty is better or circumcision.

$2500 is very expensive since i'm not a rich guy, and $2500 = nearly 2 months of my salary

my main goal of going for the surgery, regardless of whether it's preputioplasty or circumcision, is to fix my phimosis problem.

more importantly, because my phimosis is quite serious, i know for sure there'll be problems during sex in future.

If preputioplasty can cure my phimosis and make my penis like others (able to retract fully etc), then i'll go for that, obviously, even though it's way more expensive, but i don't mind paying for that.

my concern is whether preputioplasty can be done on people with phimosis + slightly-longer-than-average-foreskins.

I will only trust specialists for such a procedure and have chanced upon Dr Ho who seems to possess high credentials in the area of Urology.

yeah, i don't trust any GPs to do such jobs.....it's the penis we're talking about and anything goes wrong, your entire life's happiness for the remaining 20 - 35 years will be gone. This Dr Ho, i've read a bit about him and he's been in this line for 14 years, so should be ok.

so, what made you choose preputioplasty over circumcision?

yeah, that's what i'm thinking.....i wanted to do circumcision this Nov 08 but it's one of the greatest decision in my life and i don't think i'm ready for it, because i want to read more about preputioplasty and circumcision first before deciding whether they're right for me.

based on my calculations at this time, i'll most likely visit Dr. Ho in early Jan 09.......if not, May 09.

so, you'll be going to see him for consultation this coming weeks?

sometimes, i really wish i was circumcised when i was a kid so that i won't have these problems.

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