Heroes and villains

last SG · 2006-05-16T18:05:49+00:00

He is a hero wat... so he stays here

laurence82 SG

Hmm, seems a lot of people dont know a lot of the heroes and villains in Chinese history

Come come, lets talk about your favourite hero or villain

I start with a hero

Yue Fei

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yue_Fei

vince69 SG

Qin Shi Huang
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qin_Shi_Huang
truely unified China not just in term of as a country, but also united the people in term of their language, law and finance

laurence82 SG

Some characters very hard to put as hero or villains

like Qin Shi Huang, who united China and laid out many reforms that are used for a long time after his death, but treat his people badly and caused thousands to lose their life

Last Ming Emperor Chongzhen as well, a wise emperor who could not cope with the troubles already accumulated when he ascended the throne, or a useless emperor who lost the Da Ming Jiang Shan to rebels and Manchus

I heard the PRC honours Li Zicheng, because he rebelled against the upper class of society. Shocked

DriftingGuy SG

Hey I have the picture storybook with a similar cover Laughing

laurence82 SG

Wiki seems cannot link, so here you go, pic of Qin Shi Huang Di

Ito_^ SG

jiang ziya/jiang taigong.

we share the same hobby of fishing for the unapparent. Cool

vince69 SG

one thing for sure for these people.... never offend the scholars, especially those that record history.... personally think Qin Shi Huang offended them by burning those books and forced them to use only one language.... hence recorded him as evil....

laurence82 SG

so, he never use the laws heavily on the people and made many perished building the great wall for him?

Ito_^ SG

maybe is from evil write until VERY evil..? not surprising.

OH-FF SG

Chinese Hero , one definitely is Bruce Lee.
Although all he did was Acting. But in the hearts of many HK and chinese , he is somebody who show USA and the rest of the world , "Don't bully chinese".

vince69 SG

He used extreme methods,
Forced burning of all those books, ancients literatures (highly valued by the scholars)...etc, bascially he may have used extreme enforcement method to "bulldoze" his way across, then on the other hand, if not use this method, all those unification may not happen also.

laurence82 SG

Actually, Chinese history got numerous characters, from military heroes, villains, civil servant, philantrophists, poets and artists, village heroes, philosophers etc

Here is one patriot, who gaves us Duan Wu Jie, or Dumpling Festival

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qu_Yuan

udontknowme SG

the guy who got his mom to tattoo the four words on his back...

err...yue fei?

laurence82 SG

yah, the first character i posted

The words are Jing Zong Bao Guo

udontknowme SG

sorry...kinda blind.
actually, very blind.
and i never take chinese for over 2 years already...so i have forgotten most stuff Embarassed

monoslayer SG

actually there is no good or bad for some characters eg. cao cao.. its jus tat everyone holds different views..

vince69 SG

agree,... some of those suposingly "hero" also quite stupid one, rather die to protect their own name/honour, then put personal "honour" aside and serve the people using alternative/unconventional method. Rolling Eyes

laurence82 SG

so again, who is your fave hero or villain?

DriftingGuy SG

I don't have a fave hero but I do have a fave villain:

vince69 SG

cool armour Smile