Most inconvenient CCL Station?

iamgoondu SG

It was unfortunate to walk from nearby busstops to Holland Village station, one may have to walk for 6-8 minutes.

Only bus stop along Holland Ave (opposite Holland Village, SBST48, SMRT970, SMRT106, SMRT61) is at the station door stop. One may have to walk for 300-350m from other busstops, which are:

a. Busstop along Holland Ave (OS Blk 12) - 300m

b. Busstop along Holland Road (OS Holland Village, SMRT61, SMRT970, SMRT77, SMRT75, SBST7, SBST95, SBST165) - 350m

c. Busstop along Holland Road (Opposite Holland Village) - 300m

Ease of transfer from buses to trains is probably an important criteria in deciding if one would abandon the train and take a direct bus rather...

Holland Village station was situated at a junction, unfortunately the busstops were not relocated or added to allow more buses to stop at it door steps.

Hope LTA would relocate the busstops to make bus-train transfer indeed a breeze...

yellowflip999 SG

As far as I know, bus services would be amended when Circle Line Stage 4 and 5 opens.

SBS7322B SG

It was unfortunate to walk from nearby busstops to Holland Village station, one may have to walk for 6-8 minutes.

Only bus stop along Holland Ave (opposite Holland Village, SBST48, SMRT970, SMRT106, SMRT61) is at the station door stop. One may have to walk for 300-350m from other busstops, which are:

a. Busstop along Holland Ave (OS Blk 12) - 300m

b. Busstop along Holland Road (OS Holland Village, SMRT61, SMRT970, SMRT77, SMRT75, SBST7, SBST95, SBST165) - 350m

c. Busstop along Holland Road (Opposite Holland Village) - 300m

Ease of transfer from buses to trains is probably an important criteria in deciding if one would abandon the train and take a direct bus rather...

Holland Village station was situated at a junction, unfortunately the busstops were not relocated or added to allow more buses to stop at it door steps.

Hope LTA would relocate the busstops to make bus-train transfer indeed a breeze...

LTA says that as long a MRT is within 500m of a bus stop, it is considered to be near the station. Relocating bus stops will however cause problems such as readjusting distance fares and sometimes too close to preceding bus stop or previous bus stop. All I can say is that they should have one more entrance to the station that is closer to the bus stop at Holland Rd.

n4l SG

Uh, Marymount?

iamgoondu SG

Uh, Marymount?

Agreed,had took train to Marymount and intended to make transfer to Holland V.

The bus stop along Marymount Road was nowhere to be seen when exited from the station. And was discouraged by the overhead bridge. And had to give up on taking bus SBST 74 from Marymount Road to Lornie Road to make transfer to SBST165.

And in the end I choose to walk to bus stop along Upper Thomson Road to take SBST165. A 12 min walk.

iamgoondu SG

Each station should have at least a pair of bus stop that stop at the station door step. 500m is just too far.

Comparing to E-W line, all stations have at least a pair of bus stops or bus interchange situated at their door steps.

HV platform was positioned along the junction, it seems one has to spend 5 min to exit from platform to entrance MayBank. And one probably has to walk another 8 minutes to Bus Stop along Holland Road (out side Holland Village). 13 min? One probably can take the train from Holland to HarbourFront.

n4l SG

Agreed,had took train to Marymount and intended to make transfer to Holland V.

And in the end I choose to walk to bus stop along Upper Thomson Road to take SBST165. A 12 min walk.

Even the taxi stand is closer than the bus stop...

Btw, the bus stop opposite Marymount MRT doesn't have 74/852, only 54/851. The one at Marymount MRT is further up the taxi stand and has all 4 services serving the area.

c751bLoVuR SG

To me: CC18 Bukit Brown

What's your request?

No HDB blocks
No Road served by buses

sbst275 SG

Even the taxi stand is closer than the bus stop...

Btw, the bus stop opposite Marymount MRT doesn't have 74/852, only 54/851. The one at Marymount MRT is further up the taxi stand and has all 4 services serving the area.

they would not purposely shift a bus stop nearer to the MRT station if it's not safe or practical to do so..

I mean loading problem.. if tat road has 12 bus svs plying, outside e MRT Stn going to have massive jam..

how to have your taxi stand? shift it 800m away riao might as well dun build taxi stand.

sbst275 SG

Agreed,had took train to Marymount and intended to make transfer to Holland V.

And in the end I choose to walk to bus stop along Upper Thomson Road to take SBST165. A 12 min walk.

there's no way Sv 74 can stop e bus stop opposite.

It's peak hour traffic condition issue.

SmRtFrEaks SG

nicoll hiGhway station???

C751A 70049/70050 SG

nicoll hiGhway station???

No, the bus stop are ok.

Well, 500m is plain stupid because they are targetting 400m radius a MRT station by 2020 in CBD areas.

(To TS:) But look on brighter side

It was unfortunate to walk from nearby busstops to Holland Village station, one may have to walk for 6-8 minutes.

Only bus stop along Holland Ave (opposite Holland Village, SBST48, SMRT970, SMRT106, SMRT61) is at the station door stop. One may have to walk for 300-350m from other busstops, which are:

a. Busstop along Holland Ave (OS Blk 12) - 300m

b. Busstop along Holland Road (OS Holland Village, SMRT61, SMRT970, SMRT77, SMRT75, SBST7, SBST95, SBST165) - 350m

c. Busstop along Holland Road (Opposite Holland Village) - 300m

The shops nearby there can become a shopping street and this walking distance is as good as above-ground / ground level version of City Link Mall on City Hall - Esplanade walkway.

No, I remember the bus stops there, if a relocation were to take place, might just obstruct the traffic infront / sideways.

sbst275 SG

No, the bus stop are ok.

Well, 500m is plain stupid because they are targetting 400m radius a MRT station by 2020 in CBD areas.

(To TS:) But look on brighter side

The shops nearby there can become a shopping street and this walking distance is as good as above-ground / ground level version of City Link Mall on City Hall - Esplanade walkway.

No, I remember the bus stops there, if a relocation were to take place, might just obstruct the traffic infront / sideways.

There can never be a MRT stn within every 400m..

where are u going to get e funding?

also 1 MRT is 138m long... stop every few seconds? might as well walk!

C751A 70049/70050 SG

There can never be a MRT stn within every 400m..

where are u going to get e funding?

also 1 MRT is 138m long... stop every few seconds? might as well walk!

The newer lines are all 3 (CCL / DTL / ERL??) / 4 (TSL / ERL??) carriages which translates 1 MRT is about no more than 70m long.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomson_MRT_Line

If the above statement by you is true, then what about Dhoby Ghaut - Bras Basah and Bugis - Rochor?

sbst275 SG

The newer lines are all 3 (CCL / DTL / ERL??) / 4 (TSL / ERL??) carriages which translates 1 MRT is about no more than 70m long.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomson_MRT_Line

also no pt..

wat abt ur station entrance/ exit location?

end up side by side? lol

waste of public funds only..

unless tell SMRT to get their own fianancing do BOT or PAP loves to brand it as PPP.

As for CBD seriously, u see.. Bras Basah gotch much ppl use or not? To me it's for e sake to have a 'MRT' station for SMU

joeyfjj SG

There can never be a MRT stn within every 400m..

where are u going to get e funding?

also 1 MRT is 138m long... stop every few seconds? might as well walk!

In London, The shortest distance between stations is on the Piccadilly line - Leicester Square to Covent Garden - 0.3km

iamgoondu SG

If the bus stops and mrt stations are not closely integrated, it will not encourage many car owners in switching to public transport.

sbst275 SG

In London, The shortest distance between stations is on the Piccadilly line - Leicester Square to Covent Garden - 0.3km

we dun have to follow others just for e sake of doing so

In any case, it's not possible for out of CBD area to have MRT stn within 300m all due to HDB or clustered pte housing estates.

sbst275 SG

If the bus stops and mrt stations are not closely integrated, it will not encourage many car owners in switching to public transport.

does not mean have to compromise road safety for e sake of doing so.

e post from here sounds as if there's no need to walk.

As if w/ our limited land, can squeeze 1 bus stop beside e MRT station entrance like tat

iamgoondu SG

does not mean have to compromise road safety for e sake of doing so.

e post from here sounds as if there's no need to walk.

As if w/ our limited land, can squeeze 1 bus stop beside e MRT station entrance like tat

Some walk is of course necessary. However try walking from Marymount Station or Holland V Stations to their pair of nearest bus stop, one may easily discourage from making bus/train transfer, and render the stations to be unpopular.