FULLY automated NSL and EWL

dkcx SG

YES i cant be bothered abt the poors truth.

What a threaten...

Let me analyse the info u had...

- Sexual life

- School

- mobile no.

that abt it...

for school i wont have to worry cause i will be going to london for further studies so wat could u do with them?

So what do u wanna expose abt me then n we'll see. Unlike u i am not so despicable to go record down phone conversations with people to prepare for blackmailing, storing their numbers for unknown reasons etc etc

---Max--- SG

I had no choice but to protect myself, my assets.

Unless u had sth bad going on when we had our chat then why should u worry for?

dkcx SG

I had no choice but to protect myself, my assets.

Unless u had sth bad going on when we had our chat then why should u worry for?

Ask how many people would feel safe being friends with some1 who records down their conv, store their details etc. Its just a blackmailing in process and whos the 1 who mentioned it here when he sms me to keep things private?

---Max--- SG

private to me young man

willis_chong SG

They should keep the system manual. You're right that automatic trains are better, but there're some more things that you should consider.

Nevertheless, who knows, the new C151As may be automatic.

---Max--- SG

C151As to be automated is very low cause given that all train currently on service are driven by the TO thus to have it specially fully driveless will not be easy. This is include installing a new network system(communication with the train and the operator in the building).

NickL_C151 SG

What willis_chong said.

TOs are still needed in times of rain and construction sites near the tracks. If I'm not wrong, the TOs in the cab now during normal conditions are basically just sitting there and watching out for any form of problems that may arise.

E5 SG

Replying to the topic: Fully Automated NSL and EWL

Definitely no to that as it will increase the amount of time the train stops at a station. The main problem lies in that NSL and EWL has stations above ground, which means that if there’s a rain, the computer cannot accurately calculate the amount of brake needed to stop as friction is greatly reduced. If this full auto is implemented, the following will happen;

-Rain sensors will be placed on all part of the above ground tracks.
-Signalling system will communicate with train to apply dry mode or rain mode
-Train check to implement dry or rain mode at intervals on above ground section
-If dry mode, stop at station as per norm
-If raining mode, stop implemented in steps of 6 (40km/h/138m, 30km/h/70m, 20km/h/40m, 10km/h/20m, 5/10m, stop/0m) and enter station at 40km/h. (Gonna take hell of a time to stop compared to CM mode, maybe like 40~60 seconds?)

So is it worth the money and effort? If yes, please enlighten me.

E5 SG

post deleted, double post sorry

ak4711 SG

Oh wow what a 'nice' quote young man.

I tot I had just mentioned that by 2017 43% or more of singaporean will be millionaire? ALL singaporean pays will rise from the economic push in china and india(projected india, they are catching up fast so buy their company stock when they are cheap now) unless they are bullied by their boss lar. And by 2017 Singapore population will be around 5 million, do you think that the same old 2 min frequency on NSL or EWL will work during even and morning peak? Surely it will require some upgrading. Fully automated will be very possible since government plan to be the first in SEA or maybe the whole asia to implentment the optical fibre network. So by that time singapore will be so advanced. The needies will get wat they need I can gurantee, unless they dunno how to seek for help lar or too greedy.

Our population now is already 4.8 million. Do you mean our population is gonna grow by only 200K in the next 8 years? The frequency now is 2 minutes and there's no trouble coping with the human traffic.

Stats show that 1.5 million people use the MRT everyday, which is one-third of the population. And by following this, we can estimate that an additional 66K people using the train when it reachs 5 million. Considering each train's capacity to be 1.5k people, that would take a total of 1000 train trips. And if you put that into context, we're just having another 66 people on each train and an average increase of less than 3 people at each door, so is there a need to increase frequency now? No. And not even in 2017 if the projected population is only 5 million.

jcqh SG

Anyway, as the population increases in a few years time, 22 new C151As will be added.

Whether or not all the trains will become driverless, I think it is quite impossible.

Bus and Train LoVuR SG

I think C151A will not be automated.

nenepokey SG

I think C151A will not be automated.

it will not be automated. if it is automated, the signals and systems and all these and that need to be upgraded just for the automated trains. to think of the cost, is it feasible?

TownLink 291 SG

Just change signals & improve freq can liao... no nid fully auto.

linwei20 SG

Alot of people say, being a TO is like slacking inside! But the truth is, NO! You are so-called controlling the train too! All the passenger is in your hand, like those BC/SL do too, it carry more life than those public buses. Just to let you all know.

Anyway, how do SMRT recruit those TO's? Anyone know?

nenepokey SG

actually i once saw a TO playing on his PSP...

SBSTransport SG

Well I think it is not right for them to do it, no matter how boring is the whole journey is, anyway I was wondering if the driver can itself switch onto CM mode just for fun?

Back to topic, well automating NSL & EWL can of course increase our frequency but than there is a cost, you need rain sensors, new signalling, new system and new trains (you want increase frequency need more train what, you can't expect 126 trains to do 90sec frequency on both lines which is impossible). The total cost would probably cost at 3/4 billion, considering that trains are not cheap. Than there is TO retrenchments which I think can be solved by asking them to become inspector, like those in SBS transit where they stay in a train and if the automatic system they take over. Last but not least, how are they going to upgrade the system without causing massive problems like, closed sections. Personally I do not know how well is SMRT good at shuttling but last I heard was very bad.

Pitot SG

What is up with issue of retrenchment?

It is only natural for the company to go driverless if it means higher efficiency.

TOs can be retrained to do other duties in SMRT for eg; plenty of stations to be staffed on the CCL or on the existing EW and NS lines in case there is a need for manual overide or whatever you call it

Interception_7 SG

Never will be automated..

Think abt driving in CM when its raining, or RM when there's a need too.

Furthermore, Singapore likes to think ahead, why didn't they think at first to have a automated NSL and EWL line before constructing it?

LoL, seriously I think this post is meaningless.. Why retrench TOs...hahahaha, TOs are in the cab, doing the doors opening and closing, respond to last minute notices, and driving the train manually..

Pitot SG

OT but i would like to ask if any of you here can give input.

The dubai metro is set to be fully automated.

So how will it cope with the weather then?

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