WHY SMRT DON WAN PROVIDE NIGHT RIDE

last SG · 2008-04-24T00:36:33+00:00

i meean trains not buses night rider buses onli go to some place onli bus trains go almost every where

Go SG

Good idea. If they want to promote sg as a night city, they should implement night trains.

Oceane SG

Good idea. If they want to promote sg as a night city, they should implement night trains.

I think people still do not get the point. Like what 1224Y says, SMRT doesn't have night tracks. If only they saw further and built night tracks so that day tracks can be inspected at night while night tracks can be inspected in the day.

Unfortunately, Singapore does not have these because it's land area is too small.

There are night buses running though.

^tamago^ SG

i don think by addin 1 train per hour will affect their maintain?

Need to repair track how? It's not always inspection then do nothing.

TIB1224Y SG

Unfortunately, Singapore does not have these because it's land area is too small.

There are night buses running though.

Its hard to differentiate night and day tracks...

For example, on large systems and where trains run on express (stop at few stations), rapid (stop at selected stations) local (stop at every station) a large corridor would be needed. Like in the States, there is the North East Corridor, which features four tracks parallel or more, and trains can run in the same direction on two tracks. In mass rapid systems like Sg, its not necessary.

Track inspection as in between the proposed night trains. If i can put one train on the North South Line per 30 minutes, then an inspection train will be placed somewhere between. Eventually the train would chase up to the inspection train but that would be at an area where there is a siding. Tracks will not need to be inspected everyday, and if our system is old, the Japanese, European, States systems how? They use the same track for 50-100 years and it still can support. The main thing is the electric system, that is where inspection is compulsory. Tracks leave it to daily operation observance will do good. Now we have things like Ultrasound inspection and so on, what is difficult...

SGidoits SG

there is sure someways to find out for smrt having night rides if they wan i think. human is creative XD

I-like-flings(m) SG

Mini bus service like in hk... cheap and overnite and knn de fast!!!

pigsticker SG

night-rider also knn de fast... and much cheaper than taxi also...

rlsh07 SG

night-rider also knn de fast... and much cheaper than taxi also...

but no have for my area

I-like-flings(m) SG

night-rider also knn de fast... and much cheaper than taxi also...

u need to come hk to try then u know what is KNN DE FAST.....even our taxi is not so fast.... sometimes can be 90km/hr especially at nite.

caleb_chiang SG

also to prevent drunken from sleeping on the tracks...

huaiwei SG

Unfortunately, Singapore does not have these because it's land area is too small.

There are night buses running though.

How does having an additional track be an issue due to the size of this country? ;)

Night services is a great idea, but like many have said, it really dosent seem feasible. I note that even the ever busy MTR runs from about 6am to 1am.

Oceane SG

How does having an additional track be an issue due to the size of this country? ;)

Night services is a great idea, but like many have said, it really dosent seem feasible. I note that even the ever busy MTR runs from about 6am to 1am.

Of course it is an issue... most of our aboveground tracks are built in between roads... to construct another night track, then we don't use the roads anymore?

^tamago^ SG

It’s necessary to close the tracks a few hours in the night to ensure the tracks are in tip-top condition.

Who mentioned that there’s only inspection going on at night and no wielding/repairing going on? How to let commuter trains pass like that?

SBS9888Y SG

what can be done is that 1 train in svc and the frequency is every 2 hours. charged at the NightRider rate of $3. den that sad train uses the northbound track on mon, wed, fri and sun. and uses the southbound track on tue, thu and sat.

singaporeans only know how to complain. majority dunno how to look for solution de sadly. cant imagine our next government.

huaiwei SG

Of course it is an issue... most of our aboveground tracks are built in between roads... to construct another night track, then we don't use the roads anymore?

Then I suppose you are not a keen observor of Singapore's MRT tracks. The only stretches of the track which were built directly above roads are stretches of the East West Line from just beyond Clementi station to Buona Vista (3.2km), a second 3.1km stretch between Buona Vista and Redhill Stations and a 3.4km stretch above New Upper Changi Road spanning just beyond the Bedok and Tanah Merah stations.

9.7kms out of 60kms of aboveground MRT track constitutes "most"? Hardly. And do you have empirical evidence to show that road widening is not an option along any of those stretches of road?

SBS9888Y SG

9.7kms out of 60kms of aboveground MRT track constitutes "most"? Hardly. And do you have empirical evidence to show that road widening is not an option along any of those stretches of road?

sadly i dun see the need for night tracks cos we dun wan fare hikes.

Oceane SG

9.7kms out of 60kms of aboveground MRT track constitutes "most"? Hardly. And do you have empirical evidence to show that road widening is not an option along any of those stretches of road?

I assume you fail in observations.

The stretch of tracks from Khatib to Yishun also lie on the roadside.

And let me ask you, what is the purpose of having Night tracks if they don't serve the heartlands?

Sorry, I have been observing the MRT more. And it seems that if you have to go out late at night, take a taxi or bus home. The MRT isn't night-friendly.

huaiwei SG

I assume you fail in observations.

The stretch of tracks from Khatib to Yishun also lie on the roadside.

And let me ask you, what is the purpose of having Night tracks if they don't serve the heartlands?

Sorry, I have been observing the MRT more. And it seems that if you have to go out late at night, take a taxi or bus home. The MRT isn't night-friendly.

Then I suppose inconsistency is also a trait of yours, for I clearly note that you specifically said "most of our aboveground tracks are built in between roads", or am I seeing things? Or perhaps my proficiency in the English language is such that I didnt figure out "in between" also includes "roadside"? Tells us...is there no room to build a third track along stretches of the track which are beside the road?

I fail in observations? Think again boy.

My comment was in response to your obviously ridiculous claim that night tracks do not exist in Singapore "because it's land area is too small." I challenge you to address this issue directly and not attempt to digress from it by asking irrelevant questions over "usability in heartlands" and even making assumptions over my activity and travel patterns at night.

If you wish to gloat and insist you "have been observing the MRT more", show us what you are worth without needing to use distraction gimmicks. I am all ears.

Oceane SG

I fail in observations? Think again boy.

If you wish to gloat and insist you "have been observing the MRT more", show us what you are worth without needing to use distraction gimmicks. I am all ears.

You try building then.

I have nothing more else to say. If you insist that night tracks can be built, then let it be.

Go on, submit your proposal to SMRT. See what they say.

If you think that I'm ridiculously wrong, think again. Singapore is planning for a 6.5 million population and they can't be bothered to built a third track just to serve people going home at night. Plus, where can they alight without building another platform?

huaiwei SG

You try building then.

I have nothing more else to say. If you insist that night tracks can be built, then let it be.

Go on, submit your proposal to SMRT. See what they say.

Ah man, your response dissappoints me greatly. And to think I was actually expecting a solid answer as to why night tracks arent built due to Singapore's "small size"...

Allow me to just point out quite matter-of-factly that I actually stated that night operations was not possible, and nowhere did I actually insist that third tracks should be built. What I was questioning you, however, was the reasoning you gave to explain why they were not built. How this equates to me insisting on building that track is beyond my intellect level. So do you think I need to respond to your silly SMRT challenge?

Singapore is aiming to be a 24-hour city, and recent surveys has shown that Singaporeans are amongst the world's sleepers who stay in bed for the shortest time. The number of businesses and establishments opening round-the-clock are mushrooming, and we can expect infrastructure upgrades which will cater eventually to this rapidly expanding market. If you have sources or statistics to show otherwise, I would love to see them.

Singapore has absolutely no problem accomodating 6.5 million people comfortably. Heck, it could very well support over two or three times that number even using contemporary technology, and I am saying this based on my study of the URA's master and concept plans for over a decade.

Building a third track involves expanding the rail reserve, and it can be easily observed that there is often ample land reserve on most segments of the track for expansion purposes. Even if this was not so, repossess is a challenge relatively easy to accomplish under the current government. This is not like some cities where it can cost billions for the government to repossess private land to build public infrastructure.

How they are going to alight? Erm....never heard of rail junctions??

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