Satanic Coven

last SG · 2009-01-15T19:09:06+00:00

Stop bumping this thread let it die lol

BadzMaro SG

One does not need to be religious to be morally upright. I just don't believe in senseless Christian morals such as sex only after marriage which deny our instinctual urges as such impulses are what makes us human. If there is a God he must be having a laugh at us as he created us to experience all these desires then tells us we must resist them.

I am non-religious and I do believe in abiding by the law and treating others as I would like to be treated. What's disgusting is that some Christiand only do what is considered right because of fear of punishment instead of doing it out of principle and morals. A hypothetical God surely wouldn't want that.

I agree, one does not need to be religious to be morally right. BUT , without the guidelines to what is n what is not, u tend to see things differently. Like how u say Christian morals such as sex only after marriage which deny ou instinctual urges as such impulses are what makes us human right ? Then killing... taking what we want , lying , destruction are also our instinctual urges to do so for selfish self preservation. Can u imagine if we all just let our impulses and instincts run the show? Confirm God created us to experience all these desires.

He did not say cant have sex right ? But the question is, do u think it is.. right, believing God or no God, to stay true to one person. Well, there are known problems of sex before marriage, not just the psychological issues, its also the morality decay of things resulting after it and subsequent generations. U see, the difference is that we hope to leave a lasting good impression, to fight temptations , to stay true to what we think is right. If u wish to be free , indulge in the desires of our human instincts uncontrollably, fine with me man. I find the whole issue of sex before marriage just bullshit before, but as time goes, well, lets just say after what i've seen, i think there is some point as to why they believe sex after marriage . ;p

BadzMaro SG

You haven't been reading this thread have you? Satanism does NOT preach murder. Please go back and read the posts again before making such assertions.

My perception is that we die and that's it. Nothing happens. We rot in a hole in the ground and that makes me enjoy life to the fullest and treat others with extreme respect because I know that their time alive is extremely limited and I should make it as enjoyable as possible.

I know exactly how to live my life and that is to have the best time possible before I die without restricting others from doing the same. Though I may have doubts about this at times, no human doesn't, even a Christian questions his faith at times.

I know it doesnt preach murder. But, if murder will get what u want.... why not right ? ;p Isnt that what it said about Satanism ? Self indulgence ? I read the threads.. oh yes i do. Or else i wont be typing so much stuff here.

Ur perception of u die n thats it, fair enough.. thats why like i said again, u lead the way u lead ur life. Because u believe that once u die.. thats it. So the way u act , the way u think n percieve others n yourself is different already just based on the fact that u believe once u die.. kaput.. thats it. Nada.. no consequences, no afterlife, no fear..

I live my life to the fullest. hell i enjoy life ;p i have doubt too. we all do. Beliefs will shapre our characters and how we think and act on it and things around us. When my belief was weak, i did the things an atheist does. My perception of things are different, the way i treat others and myself is different. But now that i believe , i am different. So there is difference. =D Thats why in the end, i would think that to believe is better then not believing.

dAiyAm0nd0 SG

To: BadzMaro who thinks the morals taught in christianity are useful.

What are morals?

Morals are a set of rules created by humans.

Different groups of humans create different sets of morals.

Different religions have their own distinct morals.

A country's laws are also a set of rules by their respective governments and thus may be considered a set of moral standards.

I personally believe so many sets of morals lead to confusion, chaos and eventually war.

One might see other's morals to be right or wrong, but thats only based on YOUR perspective.

Is there really right and wrong if not for us humans? No.

When one labels something as right, thats only your views, based on your moral standards, and that goes for when you label something as wrong as well.

Morals are designed so that we can live happily in peace, but conflicts with moral standards of other groups of people create disputes.

The most idealistic way to end this, is for someone to unify and rule the world, having everyone conform to his moral standards.

However, this is not reality.

Christian evangelicals believing they are right, seek to alter other's beliefs to conform to their own.

This is impractical.

People of different beliefs will revolt.

People will develop their own beliefs to quell their fears of the unknown.

Christianity may or may not die out, but even if it does, another religion will be born (Bahai faith is one of them, once people realise the bible is imperfect)

The world will forever be in conflict because we humans have the ability to think.

Morality is not a way to solve this problem, in fact it adds to the problem.

BadzMaro SG

Well, i think thier morals as good, if not better.. ;p Morality is just one of the issues we face. I know morality is different from everyone and there are philosophies that explain the different forms of morality, the divine morality issue, the moral relatavist argument, the evolutionalist argument and a few others more.

No doubt that our morals are different, of course i know. The decisions made by those with different moral perspective can be seen today. What disgusts us is does not disgust them. My point about morality as one of the issues or the main drive of one of its key principles in Christianity , is that its better then now having any morals at all. Even the Laws today based on the Catholic laws by St Thomas Aquinas is passed down as it is and because of this, there are arguments on what the law should be or ought to be. But that is another issue all together albeit related.

Bahai faith, or Bahai`u alath , yes.. i studied thier faith. ;p Thiers about the messiahs are all sent by the same god , but in different times. Thiers is even more imperfect, especially able to claim that anyone can be a messiah. But when i said if i say i am a messiah will they believe me ? They didnt say nuttin. N just told me to chant n hymm to the enigma like music. Hey man..

Well, aggressive faiths like the muslim and christianity definately tries to seek to save the word from damnation. Of course we humans think and there will be conflict. Why u think there is the UN to have a more universal moral standard. Why not just let everyone run free... without morals.. or morals of thier own. If thats the case, wont there be MORE conflict ? Imagine.. a world.. without morals. Like now.. which is at its low.. and may go even lower. How ? U got a solution ? So how then do we solve.. moral disputes ? =D

seotiblizzard SG

Satanic oven? Use broiler lah.

Microwave oven better leh.

charlize SG

Why nobody want to join Hermatic Order of the Golden Dawn?

Why?

Herzog_Zwei SG

Why nobody want to join Hermatic Order of the Golden Dawn?

Why?

Dunnoe what deities are they worshipping. Egytian and Greek gods?

charlize SG

Dunnoe what deities are they worshipping. Egytian and Greek gods?

Faith and religion is all about discovery.

Now go find out for yourself.

Don't ask me to spoonfeed you.

Man!x SG

Why nobody want to join Hermatic Order of the Golden Dawn?

Why?

Aleister Crowley and gang and his shite about psychic sex?

mlmersrlosers SG

after so many years, the thesis of the christian bible must have change already due to so many different languages and stories. So how does one can tell the consistency of the bible?
Just like I tell u today Im going to market to buy a fish. you go and tell my mom that im going to market at 7am to buy a fish for cooking. Then mom tell dad that im going to cook fish for dinner tonight. And it goes on. But I never say I’m going to cook dinner tonight….

christians morals – sex after marriage must have been created by some woman

satan rebel against god to create hell…hmm sounds like a story that only appears in movies

Come buddha will teach u a lesson

jondizzle foshizzle SG

The point I'm trying to make is that Christian morals are horribly flawed because they impose rules which although may be practical in certain circumstances, are just too general to be beneficial. Surely sex after marriage may have advantages for a select few but in most cases it's just an unecessary restriction on your happiness as are many other Christian laws. We should not need a distinct, uncompromisable set of laws on how to live our lives, we have the ability (most of us anyway) to determine what is good for ourselves and if we are aware of the consequences of our actions and still wish to act upon them then nobody should be able to tell us otherwise.

There are definitely beneficial rules such as 'Thou shalt not kill' but we have no need for Christianity or religion in general to tell us that, each country's enforced law covers that and it is a universally human taboo to kill, steal, etc. even for supposedly godless and lawless native tribes.

We don't need God to tell us what is wrong and right, we already have our own, much more reasonable conceptions of right and wrong.

jondizzle foshizzle SG

Yes, Satanism preaches self-indulgence but with restriction. Every religion or set of beliefs have restrictions, it is part of law.

Beliefs and values may shape our character but those beliefs do not have to be religious in nature. Atheists are just as morally upright as the religious. Furthermore, you do not have to be religious to believe in the teachings of a religion. I do not believe in a God but I do agree with much of Jesus' teachings.

Speaking of which, there have been countless crimes against humanity committed in the name of God, religion has its obvious disadvantages in that sense as well as the fact that God has done what most people would consider evil on several occasions. Evidence from the Bible:

II Kings 2:23-24 (NIV)

23 From there Elisha went up to Bethel. As he was walking along the road, some youths came out of the town and jeered at him. "Go on up, you baldhead!" they said. "Go on up, you baldhead!" 24 He turned around, looked at them and called down a curse on them in the name of the LORD. Then two bears came out of the woods and mauled forty-two of the youths.

What kind of a sick and twisted God sends bears to maul forty-two children because they mocked one of his followers? Surely no just God would condone, let alone commit, such an act.

1 Samuel 18:25-27 (New King James Version)

25And Saul said, Thus shall ye say to David, The king desireth not any dowry, but an hundred foreskins of the Philistines, to be avenged of the king's enemies. But Saul thought to make David fall by the hand of the Philistines.

26And when his servants told David these words, it pleased David well to be the king's son in law: and the days were not expired.

27Wherefore David arose and went, he and his men, and slew of the Philistines two hundred men; and David brought their foreskins, and they gave them in full tale to the king, that he might be the king's son in law. And Saul gave him Michal his daughter to wife.

These supposed followers of God killed two hundred men for his own selfish gain of attaining a king's hand in marriage. There are countless instances in the Bible of Christians or Jews murdering in the name of God who explicitly commanded them that 'Thou shalt not kill'. Even God goes back on his word when he lets forth the bears to maul the children.

EdgeCrusher SG

@badzmaro:

i'd introduce you to a friend called irony but I see you know him already. You accuse me of not having read the bible before making my conclusions, and yet go off on a ridiculous rant about satanism, most of which was completely worng in any case, and then talking about imaginary friends who set moral standards.

Congrats on missing the point completely, which was that I don't need an imaginary friend to act as my moral compass or to tell me that murder is wrong.

Ever heard of the Golden Rule ? "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you" ? Empathy ? Before accusing others of ignorance, it'd bode you well to look in the mirror first.

Unfortunately for you, I have read the bible, the Koran, the Torah, the Bhagwad Gita, all to try and understand the dynamics of religion and why it's become such a dominant force in the world today. I'm not some school kid who decided to be atheist because it's cool; I've actually been studying and debating this for the best part of 8 years now !

mlmersrlosers SG

u can choose to be a free thinker if u do not agree with the bible.
But why emphasize that u believe in satan? Is there really a need to open a thread to do this? Unless there’s some motive.
i think this thread has to be closed b4 things get….

93'guy SG

b4 things get .. ? nasty ? blown-up ?

kcockicht SG

b4 things get .. ? nasty ? blown-up ?

before things get.... like in out in out and sperm com out - ejeculation

4Justice SG

If people can emphasize that they believe in christ, why cant satanists do the same? Religious tolerance and acceptance for all.

Herzog_Zwei SG

Aleister Crowley and gang and his shite about psychic sex?

Crowley and his horns of Set photograph is really funny. Really, all I see is some abrahadabra about Egyptian and Greek gods.

dAiyAm0nd0 SG

If people can emphasize that they believe in christ, why cant satanists do the same? Religious tolerance and acceptance for all.

Would you tolerate religions which harasses you to convert? Would you tolerate people who want you to turn or burn (literally)? I think tolerance is only for those who know their limits.

zeroplasma SG

Satan loves you = )

« Previous Page Next Page »