D.I.Y computer, Pls Advise

Raraken SG

To Raraken,

Can u tell me wat is the reason behind to find out the CPU voltages ? Also wat is the difference between Phenom II 965 BE (Easy OC) & (Phenom II 955BE), I dun see any difference between the 2. Perhaps you can enlighten me on this, tks.

CPU: Phenom II 965 BE (Easy OC) (Try and ask them if the CPU is the 125W TDP or 140W TDP) (Phenom II 955BE if you can find it)

The rest of your points are noted, appreciate for taking time to write, tks.BTW you are referring to 3 casing fans or what ? tks.

Casing: Go full tower, with at least space for 3 fans (Intake, side and back. Top optional.)

The 965 runs at 3.4GHz, while the 955 is at 3.2GHz, IIRC. Both have unlocked multipliers, meaning you can overclock the processor just by changing the multiplier from, say, 17x to 20x, which, on a Phenom II, would mean a 4GHz clockspeed. The Easy OC just meant that, well, very easy to overclock by just changing 3 or 4 variables (Multiplier, Voltage etc.) Also, lower TDP = Cooler, more efficient chip.

By case fans, I mean make sure it has mountings for at least 3 or 4 case fans, or comes with at least 2 with space for more (Front intake, side intake, Rear exhaust). Yep, casing fans. I would recommend 1 Front, 1 side (Both intake) and 2 rear (If possible) acting as exhaust. With the Megahalems, make sure the fan mounted on it is aligned such that it "pushes" air towards the exhaust.

About the Lamptron FC2, yes, you can control the speed of the fans. On/off I'm not too sure. If still noisy, Yate Loon makes some "slower" speed fans, which I find to be very quiet. I'm using a DS12SL-12, the low speed variant, replacing a noisy Delta in my Power Mac, and now it's pretty quiet.

With an AM3 CPU, it's best to use DDR3. Also, faster speeds can have better results. I downgraded from DDR2-800 to DDR2-667 and I did notice a difference in application boot-up time.

SBS7484P SG

To SBS7484P,

Last night went to UVnium site to read & understand they can help to mount those cooler for us. Hey, tks for the Yates fan explanation, appreciate that.

Lamptron FC2 fan controller, do you mean if I hv 3 casing fan, the Lamptron allows me to control on/off each individual fan ? Pls advise, a bit confusing here.

If its still noisy, any other fan you can reco, I hate sound especially at night, can be quite irritating.

Should I order the Yate Loon's fan first or should I buy the tower casing first ? If I order the fan first then how would I know what fan size fit into it ? Sorry if I ask such a stupid question. I think I shoud get the tower casing first right ? Pls advise, tks.

The Megahalems isn't that hard to mount. Besides, if you're afraid of breaking the board, you can always get the nice people at UVnium to mount it for you. As for the Yate fans, yes, these are cheap. However, don't be misled by the price. By far, Yate Loon fans have proved to be one of the best and most durable fans I have ever used, aside from the big brands like AVC, Delta and Nidec. Do keep in mind though, that not all Yates are 'built equally'. I recommend that you order your Yates online from Petra's Tech Shop, because the Yates from Petra's have basically outlived other Yates. Yates from PTS are also cheaper because they liaise directly with Yate Loon instead of going through a middleman. Yes, these are cheap-looking fans but quality wise, be rest assured.

The D12SH-12 has the ability to get loud at times. For that I recommend you purchase a fan controller, also from UVnium. They have the Lamptron FC2 up on sale currently - this controller has 4 channels and supplies up to 30 watts per channel. That means you can control multiple Yates together with one channel, and other, more powerful fans on another channel. Make sure you do not exceed the power rating of each channel (in watts) though. Just so you know, Power = Ampere X Voltage.
For example, a regular 12V DC fan drawing 0.5A of current will consume 12 x 0.5 = 6W of power.

Yes, you can hook one fan to each channel and control them seperately. The FC2 provides for 30W per channel - this means that the maximum load on one channel is 30W. The Yates have rather low power consumption, so it's okay if you string one fan on one channel, or even 2 or 3 Yates together on one channel. D12SH-12's can get noisy at full tilt, but you can use the controller to dial them down. If you want silent Yates, get the D12SM-12's. The cooling capacity falls short compared to the D12SH-12, but they're much quieter. Furthermore, M, meaning Medium Speed, Yate Loons' M series fans have the best airflow to noise ratio I've ever experienced. I have used a plethora of fans, and I must say that Yates are really quality products at budget pricing.

As for fans, you must first select a chassis. This will then let you know how many fans and of what size the casing can accomodate (excluding the fans on the CPU cooler) and then proceed to buy the fans.

fattyman SG

Raraken, thank you so much for the explanation, really appreciate that.

Learned quite a few things after talking to several guys like you, really appreciate to all those who have helped to reply.

I shall hunt for the processor, motherboard & the casing soon, if need any further help, I'll post again.

fattyman SG

SBS7484P, which shop in sls carry the most models of Cooler Master chassis, can reco me ?

Tks,

SBS7484P SG

go check out the 'big name' shops there - they may not carry the most CM casings in SLS but at least you know you won't get duped at those stores.

i don't really notice which shops carry the CM chassis models because i'm not really a fan of CM chassis designs, save for their Cosmos BE and Cosmos 1000 models.

i prefer Lian-Li chassis though, and if you need to know where to get them, UVnium stocks up quite a lot of Lian Li chassis. they also do case modding, case lighting as well as stock up on a large variety of powerful fans.

fattyman SG

SBS7484P, thanks for sharing the info, really appreciate that.

Now start to hunt for processor & motherboard first, will uypdate you guys.

tks & have a nice day to all you guys out there.

SBS7484P SG

no problem.

update when you got the parts, and casing, more importantly.

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