Laptop Choice

eagle SG

Thinkpad or Fujitsu better?

http://www.nus.edu.sg/comcen/notebook/model.htm

Below 2.1kg:

Lenovo ThinkPad X61
or
Fujitsu LifeBook S6410U

comparing brand, durability, price and specs, which one is better?

mr_sotong SG

lenovo will be great..

kenn3th SG

Lenovo ThinkPad X61 (New!)
Intel Centrino Mobile Technology - Intel Core 2 Duo T7300
(2GHz, 800MHz, 4MB Level 2 Cache);
Intel 965GM Express Chipset;
2GB DDR II 667 RAM (no slot left);
160GB Hard disk (5400rpm);
External USB Multiburner (DVD-RW/CD-RW) Drive with LightScribe;
12.1" XGA TFT Active Display (1024 x 768);
Intel Graphics Media Accelerator X3100;
Type II x 1;
USB 2.0 x 3;
RGB;
Built-in V.92 modem;
Built-in 10/100/1000 Mbps LAN;
Built-in Intel Pro/Wireless 3945ABG (802.11a/b/g);
Built-in Bluetooth;
Trackpoint;
Built-in speakers;
Windows Vista Business;
Adobe Creative Suite 3 Web Premium;
Microsoft Office 2007 Standard;
Notebook Carrying Case;
USB Optical Mouse;
1.9 kg (with battery pack and USB optical drive).

[3 years Local on-campus and 3 years International Limited warranty]

Fujitsu LifeBook S6410U
Intel Centrino Duo Processor Technology
Intel Core 2 Duo Processor T7500
(2.2 GHz, 4 MB Level 2 Cache, 800 MHz FSB);
Intel GM965 Express Chipset;
2 GB DDR2 667 SDRAM (2 x 1GB, Max. 4GB, Dual Channel; no free slot);
160GB SATA Hard disk;
Hot Swappable Dual Layer Super Multi (DVD+-RW/CD-RW) Drive;
13.3" WXGA (1280 x 800) TFT;
Intel Graphics Media Accelerator X3100 with up to 384MB shared memory;
PC Card Type II, Smartcard supported;
USB 2.0 x 3; IEEE 1394;
VGA External Display;
SD/MS/MS Pro card slot;
Mini S-Video Out;
Built-in V.92 modem;
Built-in 10/100/1000 Mbps LAN;
Built-in Intel PRO/Wireless 4965AGN;
Built-in Bluetooth;
Built-in Infrared IrDA 1.14;
Touchpad;
Dual built-in stereo microphones;
Dual built-in stereo speakers;
Windows Vista Business;
Adobe Creative Suite 3 Web Premium;
Microsoft Office 2007 Standard;
Carrying Case;
USB Optical Mouse;
2.08 kg. Up to 4.5 hours battery (depends on usage).

[3-year International Warranty]

Notes:
[18Jan08] Free upgrade to T7500 Processor [2.2 GHz], effective till 31Mar08.

Both laptops are very similar in specs, but there is a price difference is $201. (more expensive being the thinkpad )

Their weights are almost similar, making both v-light and portable to carry.

The thinkpad is smaller overall, as it has a smaller screen. 12 inch vs 13 inch (eagle prefer small or big screen? too small bad for eyes leh)

However, the fuji has card slots, in my opinion, a must have in a newlaptop. (just slot a card in, then you treat it like another storage area rather than saving it in your hdd or taking out your thumb drive). Thinkpad doesnt

the fuji does also have wireless N, which means faster wifi speeds if you have a N type router, thinkpad is still using the old one.

the fuji has a built in cd drive, more convinent, and hotswappable, means can remove from your laptop.The external one that comes with the thinkpad although the external one got light scribe tech, that allows you to decorate your disc.

the fuji got pc card slot, thinkpad dont have.

Overall, i would recc the fuji in terms of it being more convinent, in a sense that it is all in one, so you do not need to find a card reader for eg, if you need to transfer pics ect, you can also burn discs directly without needing to use an external burner. Cost wise, it is also cheaper -- 10% cheaper than the levono.

but the $201 you pay is for the overall built quality of the thinkpad.

my recc: fuji

alwaysdisturbed SG

i always recommend thinkpad. design is friendly. and has a durable exterior.

eagle SG

In that case, would a T61 be a better choice?

If buy from NTU, X61 and T61 will have wireless N tech too.

Somehow, NTU's model for X61 and T61 is

Intel Core 2 Duo (T7300 - 2.2GHz, 4MB L2 Cache, 800MHz FSB)

Following from NUS website too, cuz can't copy from the NTU one

Lenovo ThinkPad T61 (New!)
Intel Centrino Mobile Technology - Intel Core 2 Duo T7300
(2GHz, 800MHz FSB, 4MB Level 2 Cache);
Intel 965GM Express Chipset; 2GB DDR II 667 RAM (no slot left);
160GB Hard disk (5400rpm);
Integrated Multiburner (DVD-RW/CD-RW) Drive;
14.1" SXGA+ TFT Active Display Matrix (1400 x 1050);
Intel Graphics Media Accelerator X3100; Expresscard x 1;
USB 2.0 x 3;
RGB;
Built-in V.92 modem;
Built-in 10/100/1000 Mbps LAN;
Built-in Intel Pro/Wireless 3945ABG (802.11a/b/g);
Built-in Bluetooth;
Trackpoint;
Built-in Stereo Speakers;
Windows Vista Business;
Adobe Creative Suite 3 Web Premium;
Microsoft Office 2007 Standard;
Notebook carrying case;
USB Optical Mouse;
2.32 kg (with battery pack and integrated optical drive).

abao SG

imbo T series is always better than X series.

eagle SG

NTU website is here

http://www.8flags.com.sg/

HyuugaNeji SG

In that case, would a T61 be a better choice?

If buy from NTU, X61 and T61 will have wireless N tech too.

Somehow, NTU's model for X61 and T61 is

Intel Core 2 Duo (T7300 - 2.2GHz, 4MB L2 Cache, 800MHz FSB)

Following from NUS website too, cuz can't copy from the NTU one

So heavy.

Got card slots?

More expensive.

Lenovo loses at all fronts.

kenn3th SG

wireless N from ntu?

is the processor speed at 2ghz? a mere 0.2ghz would make little difference.

this would have a bigger screen, and it would be slightly heavier.

The cost of the machine would make a big difference too.

but still no card reader.

I would say, it would be an even it out fight between (durability, sturdyness) vs (pc cardslot and sd card slot).

but do note that levono has taken over IBM and there might be differences in the quailty and range of laptops produced.

some thinkpads are still following the old manufacturing process, while others have moved on to levono. it is best to google to check out opinions from others.

FireIce SG

for durability, it's fujitsu
for performance, it's thinkpad

i think the X61 will be more handy though the drive is external
fujitsu display are known to be cmi

for myself, i would prefer the T61

HyuugaNeji SG

Anyway, the price indicated in NUS website does not count in GST. I just bought a laptop from NUS few months back and i realised i have to pay an extra 7% GST. kns. Of course i can still reject them by not buying but just buy lor.

eagle SG

What I like about ThinkPad is only it's trackpoint, of which I use a lot a lot. But the SATA hard disk of Fujitsu is also rather nice...

T61 is definitely heavier, but it's screen is also almost 1 inch larger.

From my experience with card slots in desktops, it seems like they can spoil rather fast... even without any usage...

eagle SG

wireless N from ntu?

is the processor speed at 2ghz? a mere 0.2ghz would make little difference.

this would have a bigger screen, and it would be slightly heavier.

The cost of the machine would make a big difference too.

but still no card reader.

I would say, it would be an even it out fight between (durability, sturdyness) vs (pc cardslot and sd card slot).

but do note that levono has taken over IBM and there might be differences in the quailty and range of laptops produced.

some thinkpads are still following the old manufacturing process, while others have moved on to levono. it is best to google to check out opinions from others.

I think the T series is still from the original IBM process. Not very sure about the X series...

HyuugaNeji SG

How can a computer of these days not have SATA hard disks? You want slow transfer of data? Anyway, 2.3kg is simply too heavy considering most people are aiming for sub 2kg in the next few years to come. I think sub 1.5kg will become the new benchmark for light laptop soon.

FireIce SG

T and X and Z still under IBM's QC
oni the R series is not

eagle SG

T and X and Z still under IBM's QC
oni the R series is not

R series is before T and X series mah

eagle SG

Any more comments? My friend will be going down in abt 2 hrs to decide...

ndmmxiaomayi SG

There's barely any need for PC card slots these days since a lot of parts are already integrated into the motherboard. But a side effect of that is if anything spoils, you replace the whole mobo.

Unless you don't plan on using it for long, Thinkpad would be fine. If you don't want to replace the whole mobo because of one spoilt part, get the Fujitsu.

kenn3th SG

your preference.