Reasons not to get Vista

BadzMaro SG

but the original copy also ma.. just that its packed with trojans , backdoor softwares , spywars n the stuff.. since it has access and can allow open connection to master servers to change files accordingly to themselvs right ?

damn the internet. Now our computer also kana controlled. But i dun think they have the power to shut down all pirated copies ? China for instance.. how ?

manyu882 SG

dont worry... u count the number of Microsoft stuff compared to people who are trying to crack vista in the whole world.. mS is outnumbered..

the Bear SG

reason not to get vista: it's from Microsoft

that's all the reason you need Laughing

Microsoft is trying to screw the user as much as possible by calling their locks and everything "security"

thing is, since when was Microsoft things ever secure?

5 years after the launch of XP, they're still patching it.. and they have unleashed Vista on the unsuspecting world.. which i have already written, they were preparing a service pack before the launch...

i wonder what next?

you and you alone can use the PC and no one else? Microsoft will find out why someone else is using your PC and destroy it?

manyu882 SG

lots of pro and cons.. but however, i'll get the pirate copy of vista no matter what.. unless it proves me worth buying it, i'll buy it. Surprised

and also, the only time when i use microsoft legit is when i buy my laptop. cos laptop goes with that OS... Confused

BadzMaro SG

i like what u are telling me..

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BadzMaro SG

This is how i see it.. every single hacker.. see's MS as this big piniata n wants to beat it up.. its like being a super power and having all these little countries and super terrorists trying to undermine u. its corporate wars , cyberspace style.

Given MAC's popularity.. if it gets as big as MS.. confirm also will kana hack.. every single time. same goes to Linus n the likes.

but we all still need ms .. unless someone creates something WAY better then MS n somehow manages to corporatesly secure deals with other major software companies.. they got NO chance.. he he

BadzMaro SG

but i just worry about Vista's network system.. how it can log on to the master servers .. auto update. i worry that it will self activate and all that stuff.. not under user control u know what i mean ?

manyu882 SG

when u install win vista it will ask u permission to activate auto update. of course select "i'll decide later".. den after u install liao, it will prompt u to choose how u want to update windows... just select you will update manually. den when you com finish download the update that time, u can choose which updates to install.

there are a few update(s) to beware of if u are using the "crack"

the Bear SG

Linux... Star Office...

manyu882 SG

just got this info from my vmware.. now existing OS are:

and also, MAc, Slynux and some others not mentioned

furb SG

Not trying to be rude or something, you all complain but in the end you all will still be using vista. Why?

1) We are to used to microsoft user-friendly and nicer interface, therefore not wanting to try to use Mac OS and Linux.

2) Most of the softwares (Games and stuffs) support microsoft, some support Mac OS but very little support Linux.

3) Linux is only use (for now) as OS for server.

4) When microsoft cease supports for Window XP (E.g. not releasing updates and stuffs), we will be force to use vista.

5) All new PC comes with vista from now on.

6) We will never escape from microsoft clutches unless someone invent a OS that is more user-friendly, easy to use, better interface and better security than microsoft.

manyu882 SG

ya... we have already planned to buy or download vista pirated. cos really not worth the money to buy the original version

the Bear SG

there is an OS more user friendly.. just that the corporate mofos are too scared to use it Laughing

i'm using it.. it's called OSX

manyu882 SG

well, old stuffs

something cool about winvista is that it has dreamscene

WHAT is DreamScene?

Your desktop background comes to life with Windows DreamScene. When you download this Ultimate Extra, you can select a video for your desktop background the same way you select a stationary picture. You can choose one of the high-quality looping videos that weve included, or use a video from a company that produces content for DreamScene. You can even use your own video as a background.

ndmmxiaomayi SG

1) Linux and Mac are as user-friendly as the others. That's no excuse. Two problems hit them - hardware drivers and softwares. Since these two aren't the major OSes on market, not many hardware developers will develop drivers for these two platforms. When you run into problems, you know where where to look.

2) There are workarounds for this. Still, not an excuse.

3) Linux only use is not just for server. It has other purposes (excluding desktops).

4) When MS cease support, who says you can't use XP? You still can. If you are a safe surfer, nothing will bring you down. If you aren't, then the advice would be to get another OS (security through obscurity) or get Vista.

5) That's if the PC is from some company. If you build one yourself, you can still use other OS.

6) That's a crap reason. Linux and Mac are known to be more stable than Windows, yet people still choose Windows. Why? As stated in your first reason. Humans are one lazy creature and don't like changes. When they get used to one thing, they would hardly want to change. Tell me, do you use the Dvorak keyboard or Qwerty keyboard? The Dvorak keyboard is better in all ways, yet not many people choose to use it.

Anything will be as secure as you want it to and anything will be as stable as you want it to if everything is left to default. The problem is, we don't. We are curious bunch of creatures, who wants to find out more things which leaves us with rubbish to clear. We are always seeking improvements, tweaking this and that spoils our PCs.

ndmmxiaomayi SG

Well, you are right in a sense. No need to go into technical details for this, you will find out in due time.

So long as greed exists, there's no way anything will get shut down. Money is power as people says. Laughing

ndmmxiaomayi SG

The reason to avoid and not to.

Security through obscurity is what experts hate most. By thinking that Mac and Linux aren't popular and won't be attacked is naive.

As time passes, when people are sick and tired of cleaning up their PCs and formatting and stuff, they will switch. When enough users switch over, attackers will switch over too. The main aim of attack is to gain, not to lose.

Statistically, Windows performed worse off. How about switching their roles? They would probably perform just as bad. Firefox is already the live sample for us to see. More and more attacks are targeted against Firefox users, using tools as simple as JavaScript.

furb SG

1) No matter how linux try to as user-friendly as possible, there still command-line and certain stuff you still have to remember, there's no escape for it. For normal PC user, why would they want to take their time to remember since they can use microsoft windows which they are used to and have been using it for all this time. As you have know, when humans are comfortable with certain things, they wouldn't want to change it unless there is really a reason to.

2) Yup there is a workaround for window software and games for example using winetools, however it is not 100% workable.

3) Yup not only on servers, in smartphones, some entertainment hardwares too and some other non-complicated devices.

4) Yup, even if microsoft cease support for Win XP, normal user can still continue to use it, however if loopholes were to be found then it will be god bless them. Yea you can say hackers will target vista by then, but do you think companies will take the risk? Definitely not. Besides, as time goes people will surely change their computers, whether is it computer breakdown or those hardcore gamers, and this is when Win vista will comes with it. Don't forget computer you buy now will become outdated in a few years, maybe 3 years.

5) Yup if PC is from manufacturers definitely it will comes with vista. However like I said earlier if Win XP ceased support, microsoft will not release Win XP anymore, do you think those custom PC will still be able to get XP? I predict after the next few months to about a year from now, you will not see Win XP in the SG market anymore (Not sure about the net though). Besides, if people gotten themselves a new PC, there will be no reason for them to get outdated software anymore isn't it?

6) Finally, we will not escape from microsoft cluthes unless someone invent a more user-friendly (Hardware support, software support - Linux?), easy to use (no complicated setup - Linux?) and better interface (click and click - Linux?). Indeed Linux have better security for now (not much hackers and virus attack Linux for now but in future?).

7) Yup, Linux do have a XP look-alike desktop, however it is still kinda complicated for normal user, not as straightforward as microsoft desktop.

SexyChin SG

Ok ok, windows is the best in the world alright? Continue enjoying your windows while I suffer using Mac OS X. Laughing

the Bear SG

yeah... until then Laughing

what i wonder about is why corporations don't use Linux.. they'd rather throw millions at Microsoft

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