Scroobal posted :
This is one of the saddest stories in recent times and despite
my best attempts not to politicise things that have no basis to do
so, I went berserk when I saw the photos of the 4 clowns in
grassroots attire at the front door of their house and realised
that these arseholes were trying to make political capital of
someone's misfortune.
Now which arsehole told the nation that "no gets left behind". Tell
that to Rebecca and Gabriel Loh. No help, no hope and reliant on
$1,000 every month which the grandmother earned to support 3
mouths, pay medical bills and a young mother who could not work as
she had to take care of her son who had frail legs and a failed
liver. And the it only a few days ago we found a Sg government
civil servant forking out Sg$10 milion to buy an apartment. No, it
was not the CEO of a major business but a fucking civil servant of
a tiny island that was supposed to be doomed it did not bring 6.9m
people real quick.
Where were the 4 fucking grassroots clowns in uniform before the
Gabriel left the world. And which idiot suggested sending the 4
clowns to the house. And why in uniform. The decent thing was to
send an empathic individual to make discrete inquiries about any
help need. Were the uniforms and the numbers to show the world that
the PAP cares and to play to the public gallery.
What were the 4 clowns uniform going to do. One hold the tissue
box, the second pull out the tissue, the third wipe the tears and
the fourth one disposes of the tissue. You can't make this up.
Reminds me of 2004 when then defeated Potong Pasir Clown Sitoh for
political capital began the hunt for the missing 9 year old
Filipino girl and made the papers.
LeongSam posted :
Thousands of families who lived in far worse conditions have
pulled through without resorting to murdering their own
offspring.
When I was growing up in a kampong off Telok Kurau road, there was
a woman who lived in a shack across the road. This shack had no
electricity and no running water. Her husband was killed in a road
accident while he was cycling to work.
She had 5 children ranging from 1 to 9 years old. One of the kids
was retarded. She survived as a washerwoman for the rich rubber
merchants who lived in huge mansions facing the sea along east
coast road. While she was at work, neighbors helped look
after the kids. I used to help out by buying provisions
for them... a bar of Sunlight laundry soap, Darkie toothpaste and
other small items which I could afford.
Her kids survived. The eldest son became a policeman. I don't know
what happened to the others but they were not murdered by their
mother. Instead, they were fed and clothed and loved to the best of
her ability. However, she would not have been able to pull
it off had it not been for the assistance from
those neighbors and friends who helped her out
Before blaming the PAP for everything, why don't Singaporeans take
a long hard look at themselves and explain why in an HDB block
where thousands live, not a single person offered any form of
financial or emotional help to make life more bearable for Rebecca
and Gabriel.
Scroobal posted :
May years ago, I was fated to meet a young mum who could not
cope with her young baby and killed the child. The father a useless
prick at that time was partying at a nightspot. It was a sad story.
I subsequently learnt there were some others like her. The strain,
the pressure and they snap. Nothing about greed, envy or any of the
known vices and sins. Something frayed and it gave way.
This is young lady who at the age of 22 ended up with a child with
such disability and for 9 years looked after him. Eye witnesses
tell the story of the mum who would use a pram to bring him out and
that she could not say no to him. She did not hide him, neither did
she dump him with her mum and went galavanting. I also read that
she climbed to the ledge first and then retreated and brought her
son out. I can only speculate she wanted to end it all for her and
her son.
Unlike the lady that had the retarded child, this poor girl had no
other child or children to give her a sliver of hope. A struggle
with a possible good outcome.
To me both are victims.
You know the west. There are social as well as volunteer help when
someone turns up once a week to look after a child like that so
that a mum like her gets 12 hours of respite each week. I wonder if
a wealthy country where a civil servant can buy a $10million home
can afford to do the same for the less fortunate.
ps. I take away nothing from the Teluk Kurau lady who raised the
family in such a condition. These are the heroes and heroines that
makes life worthwhile.
LeongSam posted :
There are many volunteer groups in the West and those that do
the best job are the NGOs who have ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH
ANY GOVERNMENT OR COUNCIL.
The NGOs come about because those those societies actually
care. They may spend a portion of their time lobbying for
government support but their primary role is looking after the less
fortunate.
The PAP does not care because Singapore society as a whole does not
care. A government is merely a reflection of the people.
Scroobal posted :
That is why I mentioned volunteers. But many of these volunteers
are also state pensioners who are prepared to repay to society. I
also concede there are others who are not reliant on others
financially and also volunteer.
A middle aged Singaporean is worried when he is going to lose his
job to a cheaper foreigner. Survival is paramount. These chaps who
have kids cannot turn up at State Centre and seek jobless allowance
etc.
RogueTrader posted :
we are already paying the extra 2% GST! what else do you expect
from us!!????!!
LeongSam posted :
Your remark epitomises the sinkie attitude towards the whole
issue of looking after the unfortunate.
Whatever you pay is far less than what citizens of welfare states
have to pay on an ongoing basis. Yet, in NZ, there are hundreds of
volunteers just in my neighborhood alone who help old ladies get
their medical appointments, who tidy up their homes for them, help
look after kids etc.
You cannot legislate and subcontract kindness, caring and
consideration. It has to come from within each and every one of
us.
RogueTrader posted :
You sure they are volunteers? I have 2 friends who are paid
handsomely by the Australian states they're in to handle help
cases. One of them was even sponsored by the victorian state
government to do a masters degree in social work. The other one
does house visits and wipes arses for immobile patients in South
Australia.
The volunteer model of social welfarism is simply not sustainable.
Even Mother Theresa couldn't save the poor of Calcutta in her 50
years of tireless work.
LeongSam posted :
I've done meals on wheels and I never received a bloody
cent.
The socialist welfare system is even more unsustainable. Countries
that place caring for the unfortunate in the hands of the state are
growing broke as we speak.
Ultimately, we have to face the fact that a portion of the human
race will perish as a result of their lack of survival instincts.
You cannot defy the laws of nature forever. In the animal world,
when there are more cubs than there are nipples, some are going to
die. The human species is no different. Those with inferior genes
are going to be left behind.
As individuals, we can change the outcome for some but we can't
redefine the way nature and natural selection works.
KopiO posted :
1. An unmarried woman gives birth to a child.
2. The child is born with a severe medical disability.
These are the ROOT causes of the present tragedy.
3. The single mother is unable to cope financially leading to
stress.
4. The mother murders her child.
Why is there such an uproar AGAINST the State for point 4? It is as
if ANY unfortunate incident/tragedy, personal or otherwise, is
blamed on the PAP. The solution proposed seem fairly unthinkingly
universal - vote the Government out in 2016. Would this solve the
root causes of point 1 and 2?
And where lies the personal responsibility of EVERY FATHER here? Be
a man and continue fucking, for fun an procreation without being
responsible for the aftermath? And what about a woman? Where lies
the personal responsibility?
I can't believe the amount of HYPOCRISY here based on this
tragedy.
