Eagles-ger, quick summary might be overlooking some important
aspects of the storyline; the actual writing is not that offensive
as you imply. Man many locals would find this ironic, me
(non-Chinese) correcting a local's mandarin. But i could be wrong.
Anyway, this my response; I need some help translating some of the
lines. Whomever could help =)
My attempts at translation are in italic. My own comments are in
non italic form.
1st post)
No big deal; it's basically a question asking if Singaporeans
think themselves too smart. No further detail. No biggie.
I think Singaporeans can be overly proud, the way they treat
domestic workers and the way they look down on other southeast
asians from the lesser developed areas. Singaporeans are generally
not polite/friendly, but i dont think that has anything to do with
PRC people or other foreigners.
2nd post) rough translation (Apologies if it is off)
"Do you like the way Singaporeans speak? title
华语 英语都包括在内
English and mandarin mixed together in conversation
我就非常讨厌新加坡人讲华语
I really hate the way SIngaporeans speak mandarin
更讨厌中国人学新加坡人讲华语
And it's worse when Chinese people (from China) speak
mandarin like Singaporeans
还有些中国人之间也是用新加坡式华语交流
And some Chinese (PRC) people use Singaporean mandarin slang
to communicate among themselves.
(Surely this is good as it shows a willingness to
assimilate>)
不仅不像 反而比新加坡人讲的华语还要恶心
So much so that they speak mandarin even worse than
Singaporeans do.
虽然这样可能会加快你融入这个社会的速度
Despite this increasing the speed of "SOMETHING- in
society
Help me out i cant translate that word"
甚至让你从某种程度上来讲 自认为已经是这个国家的一份子
And from whichever point of view you look at it, SOMETHING
is already a part of the country
但是我们的普通话不好听吗?
What's wrong with the way we PRC chinese speak
mandarin?
还是当新加坡人很爽?
Or is it the Singaporeans being
prejudice/awful/smelly?
总之我接受不了
Regardless, i can't take it anymore.
我来这里7年了 PR一名
I've been here 7 years as a PR
但是只要一开口讲话
And whenever i open my mouth to speak
别人就会知道我是中国人
Other people know i am from China
coz i am proud to be a PRC
不知道大家是怎么认为的"
I dont know what everyone else thinks?
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Actually this PRC dude does have a point. Singaporeans can be
very parochial. I am not Chinese, but i keep getting these silly
judgements from locals about how i am not english if i dont play
soccer and because i don't speak like a bloody yobbo from East
Enders haha. It can get annoying sometimes when people here look at
you with a really narrow colonial mindset.
Singaporeans can be very prejudiced. It's just the way you all
are alas. I feel sorry for this dude.
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Okay 3rd post; i really dont like this story, it makes me feel
angry.
这就是新加坡人的教育法
This is how Singaporeans teach their young, (the actual
word is educate, but this person means it in a non MOE
sense).
今天 我带刚2岁的孩子 在家楼下的游乐场玩 今天挺多小孩子的
和往常一样 我坐在一旁的蹬子上看=着我的宝宝玩 宝宝在玩转盘就是大人用脚踩着转转转的那种康乐健身器 共有三个转盘 我的宝宝当时和一个马来人的小孩
分别玩一个
Today I just took my 2 year old downstairs to the
playground, there were a lot of children as usual. I sat down and
watched my child play on ** (Some sort of spinning thing; hey
she has trouble describing it too!) some spinning thing- the
sort of thing adults step on and turn round and round, with 3
spinning boats on it
or some thing like that haha..
So my baby was playing on this thing with a malay
child.
没多久 一个有7岁左右的女孩抢了我宝宝的转盘玩 我的宝宝就到另一个转盘玩
Soon, a 7 year old girl came and snatched my baby's spot on
this spinning machine, so my baby went to find another spot on the
play-machine (there are 3 apparently).
2分钟后 又一个小女孩 4岁左右,是家长带着的 走过来看了一下
就抢宝宝的玩 抢后还用力推宝宝摔在地上 我的宝宝哭得很厉害
2 mins later, another girl, she was about 4 years old and
accompanied by a parent, came over and forced my baby off the
machine thing. My baby cried immensely.
那女孩的妈妈新加坡人 并没有对她女儿所做的一切讲句对不起 也没有教育她女儿不可以欺负人
That girls mum, who is singaporean, did not implore her
daughter to say any word of sorry, nor she teach her how bad it is
to be a bully.
(Jeeze if it was my kid, i would beat the bejesus out of the wog
Singaprean parent on the spot!! But no, far better to not live
among wogs... lets move on)
那些新加坡人 每次都讲 中国的小孩子没礼貌 没素质 难到 他们的就一定是最好了吗
Those Singaporeans always complain about how Chinese (PRC)
children lack manners and upbringing, are Singaporeans themselves
very polite and civil?
还是因为看到孩子的妈妈是中国人 就好欺负了
就可以让自己的孩子去抢中国妈妈生的孩子的玩具还故意推人跌到 都觉得没什么大不了
Or is it because they see that you are Chinese (PRC) you can
be bullied? That they allow their own Singaporean brood to take
Chinese childrens playthings and purposely push CHinese children
around? That it is no big deal to bully a child if they are from
CHina?
对 我是中国人 她那所谓的新加坡人其实也不就是福建人 有什么这样了不起
Yes, I am a Chinese (PRC). But that Singaporean mother is
also a Chinese person from Fujian (originally), what makes her so
special?
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So when you Singaporean guys read all this, dont dismiss these
words as nothing.
THis mother has a point; i remember my nephew's playing with
Singaporeans hdb playgrounds. Well my nephew didn't have problems,
he was white and pretty burly for his age, he could defend himself,
but i remember the local chinese kids not wanting to play with the
malay kids. ANd my nephew had his toys taken repeatedly, but the
parents were sorry and apologetic, but they weren;t to the other
kids. So there is that preferential treatment.
Singaporeans are prejudiced toward PRC Chinese, yes i agree to
some extent, PRCs are loud, obnoxious and can be crude. But so can
the Singaporeans. I remember back in the early 1990s, we would
complain about the Singaporeans being rude, dirty (Standing on
toilet seats), spitting in the street etc. Yet today in 2009,
barely 10 years... the Singaporeans are holding their noses up at
other wogs. It's just really interesting.. especially since
Singaporeans today are a product of endless campaigns designed to
make people "nice"
-smile campaign
-courtesy campaign
-babies campaign haha
But i really do find it strange that we have a LOT of PRCs here,
You can tell them by the number of children. If they have more than
2 children, their definitely PRC haha! I think it's the government
efforts to maintain Chinese as the majority ethnicity here.
But yeah. Guys, we should be mindful of how we behave.
Another example of Singaporean prejudice:
When i flew SIA with my nephews, they always got the toys and
the extra attention from stewardesses for being white and cute and
preferential. But the hong kong kids didn't get toys, or visits to
the cockpit... i wonder why. This really angered me, and they
apologized.
Okay im done.
hey thanks so much for
translating for us!!
"SOMETHING- in society -> integrating into
society
SOMETHING is already a part of the country -> had already
identified oneself as this country's citizen
LordoftheLamers why is your chinese so good ??? u take 2nd
lang chinese har?
