Webb - Dive! & you will win like ManU !

last SG · 2011-01-12T17:06:35+00:00

I didn't know you can be "tripped" by a hand just gliding past the back of yr jersey!!!Must be a new form of defence or a new rule in football. your clip doe...

sg_forum SG

Limpper = Poignant... Yeah correct, did you miss my earlier reply?

He told me himself the reason and I know why too that's why I replaced one name with the other before anyone knew who Poignant was...

But unfortunately, Not everyone thought like you... as he was accused of a number of things by other Pool fans and one of them was not being a genuine Pool fan just because he didn't like Rafa and the way they were playing under him...

As for Zweiz... You think he need to meh? lol...

I didn't miss your earlier reply but I do miss him though, LOL. He is one of the few who has quiet what it takes to give an exchange of opinions though. ;-)

Zweiz SG

Understand this ...

For Liverpool fans, Gerrard is not a diver!

i'm a liverpool fan and i see gerrard as a diver. how?

Zweiz SG

Such pictures are usually tailored to suit ones argument like in this case yours... Cos it doesn't even show the defender's foot cutting infront of the attacker's causing obstruction to progress...

The pictures I put up were taken from the video clip you so kindly provide to us... And it gave us a better and clearer view of the offence that took place...

i'll also like to point out that all my pictures were all taken from the video i so kindly provided. in a face-to-face argument i'll play the video slowmo, but obviously i can't do that here

zocoss SG

i'll also like to point out that all my pictures were all taken from the video i so kindly provided. in a face-to-face argument i'll play the video slowmo, but obviously i can't do that here

Exactly like I said... All tailored to suit your argument... If I can get those other angled pictures from your video, why couldn't you since you claim it's from the same video?

Do you see the point I am making? It doesn't matter slow-mo or 2x speed cos the end result is still the same... You can still distinguish a gray area from white. Get it?

It seems you are not to keen to give us a straight answer but I will just ask it for the 3rd time anyway...

Did Agger's foot cut into Berbatov's path while he was running? (Kindly refer to pictures and video)

And last, did Agger get any touch of the ball during this whole process? (Kindly refer to the video)

I am sure others are keen to know your answer as well...

Zweiz SG

Such pictures are usually tailored to suit ones argument like in this case yours... Cos it doesn't even show the defender's foot cutting infront of the attacker's causing obstruction to progress...

The pictures I put up were taken from the video clip you so kindly provide to us... And it gave us a better and clearer view of the offence that took place...

1. i took screencaps from a video i posted

2. you took screen caps from a video i posted

3. my pictures are 'tailored' to suit arguments like mine, while yours give a better and clearer view of the offence (basically, the "i'm right and you're wrong" argument)

Zweiz SG

Did Agger's foot cut into Berbatov's path while he was running? (Kindly refer to pictures and video)

And last, did Agger get any touch of the ball during this whole process? (Kindly refer to the video)

first your argument was agger clipping berbatov's foot

then a 'combined clip and push from the back'

now you switch tactically to 'agger's foot cutting into path' (after looking at my pictures, no doubt ^^)

what's next? agger shooting berbatov?

anyway, guess what? foot cutting into path and not touching ball is neither a foul nor penalty

Zweiz SG

It seems you are not to keen to give us a straight answer but I will just ask it for the 3rd time anyway...

and now it's your turn to answer. since we both agreed there's no contact (otherwise you wouldn't have switched from 'clipping' to 'cutting into path'),

1. why did berbatov fell when there's no contact?

2. if he hadn't fall, would he have gotten a penalty?

zocoss SG

first your argument was agger clipping berbatov's foot

then a 'combined clip and push from the back'

now you switch tactically to 'agger's foot cutting into path' (after looking at my pictures, no doubt ^^)

what's next? agger shooting berbatov?

anyway, guess what? foot cutting into path and not touching ball is neither a foul nor penalty

Err... I think you are somehow a little lost here...

First of all, You are the one making an accusation here and not me remember this... Since it's you who is making the accusing statement, then the ounce is on you to prove your point to us without any doubts... and definitely not me.

The pictures I took from the video you so kindly provided, shows a clear offence that you so conveniently left out from yours... I am assuming you watched the whole clip prior to the offence right? Cos I am just wondering how did you miss out something so obvious? If I didn't post the others pics in my reply, then people may just take yours to be the case and not seen it from another angle... So am I wrong to say it was tailored to suit your argument? Cos clearly you left out more relevant moments of the clip intentionally or not you should know...

Now to your 2nd and 3rd post... My point has never changed for even a second... Go read from the beginning again if you can understand my meaning...

My exact words... "I thought the clip on his heel might not have enough to bring him down, it might have made him lose his balance but a combine clip at his heel and a push from the back... "

My point was made in one single statement but when you deliberately separate them, you are trying to make it seem I was changing tracks when in fact I have not... Cheeky, but underhand...

Now on to your 3rd post... You should seriously try to keep all in one post...

I am always ready to answer any questions you may have, even silly ones... But first of all, I like to know how on earth did you came to the conclusion that "we both agreed there's no contact"... lol. Seriously, since when did I say THAT? Go back and read every word carefully then tell me at which point did I say that can? I also would like to know...

But I think it could be you again who can't understand my simple sentence and misconstrued it to become something else... Is it from the 2nd page, number 6 post, last paragraph? I suggest you read all 9 words lah and not just 6 only then stop half-way... lol.

Finally, seems like you have been push into a corner for an answer until you made a silly statement like in your 2nd of your 3 posts, last sentence... Though I asked 3 time but can't answer also no need to force yourself mah...

Really meh? A player running from behind, Foot cutting into another's path and not getting the ball is neither a foul nor penalty" ? Ok lah, if it makes you happy... I am just happy I wasn't the one seen making that statement... I will just quote it just in case... lol.

Anyway, the way you post and misconstrue words remind me of someone... I wasn't sure earlier but after a few post, I am quite sure who it could be now... lol.

Anyway, nevermind... What's in a name right? It's the substance that matters... lol.

Zweiz SG

My exact words... "I thought the clip on his heel might not have enough to bring him down, it might have made him lose his balance but a combine clip at his heel and a push from the back... "

My point was made in one single statement but when you deliberately separate them, you are trying to make it seem I was changing tracks when in fact I have not... Cheeky, but underhand...

your exact words now: Did Agger's foot cut into Berbatov's path while he was running?

Zweiz SG

finally, who's the one being 'pushed into a corner'? i'm using materials and your quotes in this thread for my argument, while you're the one cooking up various flavorful stories about how i did this and that, or how i'm so this and that

and i'm not rebutting those 'flavorful stories' for the sake of civility (and laziness), so let's stick to the topic for once (agger's foul on berbatov), there's no need to get all personal

iceFatboy SG

You wouldn't give him a break if his dive was really given a pen by the ref and it's like the deciding pen in cup final, now just becos the pen was not given and he admits it(and it wasn't even a good apology), he should be given a break??

you don't see henry given a break by irish fans do you?? even though ireland still needed to go to extra time to beat france to qualify for the WC

okie, so end of day, how u want it?

Walcott is a diver? so for next 20yrs, he has to live with that?

a bit extreme?

iceFatboy SG

Understand this ...

For Liverpool fans, Gerrard is not a diver!

For ManU fans, ManU player never dive B4!

For Chelsea fans, Drogba & Robben never dives!

For Arsenal fans, Henry & RVP dun dive!

For Blackburn fans..... Peterson....... Well you all get what i mean.

actually, I am a MU Fan, and I think our ex-MU player, a notable #7, dives. as for rooney, occassionally.

but I don't see any Divingblackburn? or a topic on RVP? or even now, a divingchelsea? y??

Rock^Star SG

If it's a dive, rest assured man utd fans here will say it's a dive. Too bad there are some grey areas and we can't conclusively say yes it's a dive.

I'm sure level headed fans of any other club will say the same.

What's the name of that stupid fuck again? Pala....something and something____utd? They are the same person.

zocoss SG

your exact words now: Did Agger's foot cut into Berbatov's path while he was running?

Yeah what's wrong with that question? It's just a simple Yes or No for you I belief... There are even pictures and videos to assist if you need help... Does it in anyway indicate to you I agreed with you that there's no contact? Really ? How did you came to that conclusion... Again I suspect it's from the 2nd page, number 6 post, last paragraph, first 6 words instead of 9? lol...

Now after a few post, you are seriously asking me my exact version? Please read properly can... I maintain the same reason all the way... You just have to read carefully and hopefully understand them better...

And on to your questions... Err... If you must know why I didn't squeeze a reply to your 2 simple questions in my big wall of text... Do you think it has something to do with your mis-interpretation in the first place? Yeah, take that minute and think why... as you are reading now... Did it came to you yet?

Well I hope it does...

Could it be your 1st question is already incorrect so how to give an answer? There was never a "since we both agreed there's no contact" Do you understand what I am getting at? I sincerely hope you do for your own sake...

I have a few new ones though you conveniently seem to miss out...

So after making a statement together with pictures, do you think the ounce is on you to back-up your accusation?

Was I wrong to say you tailored your pictures to suit your argument? Leaving out relevant moments of the clip intentionally?

And you asked me, "who's the one being 'pushed into a corner'?"

Well, if you must know... It's You.

Cos you are using misquotes, half-quotes for your material... And when they are pointed out here, it makes you look silly. Honestly, not joking here...

You wouldn't catch me making such a bizarre statement like... "anyway, guess what? foot cutting into path and not touching ball is neither a foul nor penalty"

Tell that to the others, I think the other right-minded ones here won't want to be caught making such a statement either...

Zweiz SG

You wouldn't catch me making such a bizarre statement like... "anyway, guess what? foot cutting into path and not touching ball is neither a foul nor penalty"

Tell that to the others, I think the other right-minded ones here won't want to be caught making such a statement either...

repeat after me

"berbatov got a penalty because agger's foot cut into his path without touching the ball"

Zweiz SG

Well I hope it does...

1. cutting into his path implies running (how do you cut into one's path if he's standing still?) but anyway, have it your way : what's your exact version of the story now? agger clipped & pushed? or he cut into berb's path while he was running? or agger cut, clip, push while he was running, then shoot him for 4 hit combo?

2. my 2nd question have no relevance to the first question: if bebartov didn't fall, would he have gotten the penalty?

zocoss SG

If you want answers, kindly give a proper reply... Don't just conveniently hide away from these...

Well I hope it does...

I have a few new ones though you conveniently seem to miss out...

So after making a statement together with pictures, do you think the ounce is on you to back-up your accusation?

Was I wrong to say you tailored your pictures to suit your argument? Leaving out relevant moments of the clip intentionally?

And you asked me, "who's the one being 'pushed into a corner'?"

Well, if you must know... It's You.

Cos you are using misquotes, half-quotes for your material... And when they are pointed out here, it makes you look silly. Honestly, not joking here...

You wouldn't catch me making such a bizarre statement like... "anyway, guess what? foot cutting into path and not touching ball is neither a foul nor penalty"

Tell that to the others, I think the other right-minded ones here won't want to be caught making such a statement either...

Give me your reply and you will get your answers very quick...

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