Man Utd boss Ferguson in furious clash with Foster

Alpha Omega SG

you can't expect a keeper plucked from Watford to excel as soon as he arrives at Man U

There are many examples of good young keepers or old ones that came from a non glamorous side and have done well.

Van Der Sar came from Fulham.

Casillas was handed the permanant real madrid goalkeeper position when he was like 18. Nothing can beat the pressure of that.

Besides, Foster is not just "some" keeper. He was watford's player of the season in the same season they conceded a lot of goals and got relegated. Previously one of the top contenders of the championship player of the season. Shows a lot about his real potential.

hisoka SG

what he really needs is to keep a lid on his nerves. Something he's not been able to do despite the numerous chances given by fergie.

I guess the best thing for him is to either go to a less pressurizing club or go back to number 2 goalie for more exposure and training to stand pressures first.

zocoss SG

He probably have that David James syndrome... A good keeper buy can't take the pressure of the spotlight being placed on him every minute he is on the pitch... Same goes with that Blackburn keeper Paul Robinson as well... The good thing is VDS is back for the next game so even if he is drop, it will still look normal. But had Kuszczak start the next match, it will be seen as he has fail big time...

Now they should send him away in Jan to another club for more playing time and to gain more experience...

United were lucky they didn't lost 6 points recently because of him alone... He should thank Owen and Evra for saving 4 pts back... And if we look back, it was also his mistake that lead to the Burnley goal too... This keeper still cannot lah...

iceFatboy SG

There are many examples of good young keepers or old ones that came from a non glamorous side and have done well.

Van Der Sar came from Fulham.

Casillas was handed the permanant real madrid goalkeeper position when he was like 18. Nothing can beat the pressure of that.

Van Der Sar came from Juventus to Fulham, he won the UCL at Juventus..
MU tried to sign him then but lost out. (Sorry, As Alpha pointed out correctly, he won at Ajax, not at Juventus).

iceFatboy SG

Hope MU can sign this Julio Cesar guy..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J%C3%BAlio_C%C3%A9sar_Soares_Esp%C3%ADndola

zocoss SG

Actually I rather they go for Igor Akinfeev. This guy have got very little exposure to many people but yet he is rank highly... He became Russia no1 keeper at the age of 20 only and has continue to be their no1 despite different managers coming in... He is currently only 23 so can play for a long time... The only down side to him could be his height... at 1.85, he isn't the tallest around...

Julio Cesar is 30, a little taller at 1.88

Petr Cech is 1.96

If there is anything Iker Casillas proved, it is you don't need to be very tall to be the best keeper as he is only 1.83... Shorter than Foster by 0.05 who is 1.88... But then again, Spanish league and English league a lot difference... English league got a lot of high balls into the box and defenders and strikers are more aggressive going for the ball in the air...

The top 10 ranked 'keepers were as follows:

1 - Iker Casillas: 249 points
2 - Gianluigi Buffon: 170
3 - Edwin van der Sar: 143
4 - Petr Cech: 108
5 - Igor Akinfeev: 23
6 - Jose Francisco Cevallos: 21
7 - Julio Cesar: 18
8 - Pepe Reina:15
9 - Jens Lehmann: 13
10 - Justo Villar: 12

Alpha Omega SG

If i am not wrong. VDS won the champs league while at Ajax Amsterdam. That was the era in which they had players like Seedof, Kluivert, De boer twins, etc.

He did not do well at Juventus. (in fact he was considered a flop) thats why he went to Fulham.

Even then how do you explain Casillas? It is not easy being thrown the first team keeper position at age 18. It is even harder when it is Real Madrid you are playing for.

Redster SG

well, EDS was the key to a rock solid defence last season and hence Foster had a ghost on his shoulder.

Unfortunaely, for Foster, he was found to be lacking and hence got blasted.

Remove Foster, and put Reina,U think the score is different?

err reina is good. how could you compare foster and reina

iceFatboy SG

If i am not wrong. VDS won the champs league while at Ajax Amsterdam. That was the era in which they had players like Seedof, Kluivert, De boer twins, etc.

He did not do well at Juventus. (in fact he was considered a flop) thats why he went to Fulham.

Even then how do you explain Casillas? It is not easy being thrown the first team keeper position at age 18. It is even harder when it is Real Madrid you are playing for.

thanks for the correction on the EDS portion.

iceFatboy SG

err reina is good. how could you compare foster and reina

well, Foster is supposedly good too, he was going to be England #1, and MU's #1 too. My point is, with EDS in the club, when Foster made mistakes, he was easily compared to and hence got blasted.

Redster SG

well, Foster is supposedly good too, he was going to be England #1, and MU's #1 too. My point is, with EDS in the club, when Foster made mistakes, he was easily compared to and hence got blasted.

yeah.. but i think its better for man u to stick with foster for now. give him some time and he'll surely flourish (i think)

iceFatboy SG

yeah.. but i think its better for man u to stick with foster for now. give him some time and he'll surely flourish (i think)

haha.. goodness, EDS is coming back... At united, there is never enough time for you to expertiment.

Redster SG

haha.. goodness, EDS is coming back... At united, there is never enough time for you to expertiment.

lol i almost forgot the reason why foster is playing!

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