well.. i was wondering if you indeed had such knowledge about
him or you've looked up on the wiki about him..but if you've not i
give you my fullest respect...
but the main reason for clubs not interested in him is probably
his disciplinary problems, SAF had always been able to control
players with inflated ego or else they will be thrown out of the
door, hence he believe in bring out the best in him, (but it was i
guess a gamble which paid off more then he would ever admit) Ince,
Keane, Beckham, Stam are just a couple that cross his line and was
shown the door even thou ManU at that point in time would be better
off with them.. but again SAF had proven he is almost always right,
hence his decision had hardly ever been questioned other then when
the thingy with his champion horse partner,
also its not always the amount of goals that matters most with
him, he did score quite a couple of impotant goals but the main
thing in him was that he is someone whom almost everyone look up
to.. even player as furry as Keane was in a way still a class below
him IMHO, i remember reading an acticle saying both him and Cantona
had to attend court or something, Keane went to his house or
soemthing and as usual Cantona was with his trademark collar up
attire and when Keane asked him, "how can you dress in this way to
attend court?" his answer was in my opinion classic.... he said
"why not? i'm Cantona!!!" he had such a thing about him that makes
ppl wanted to do things for him and thats how the group of
youngster mature while playing with him..
as for Lehmann?? again IMHO, he is not even close to Schmeichel
if you ask me.. Schmeichel famous long throw to Kan and Giggs is
what makes ManU's counter attacking such a serious threat and his
one on one is probably the best i've ever seen.. even Cezh or
Buffon IMO is cannot be compare to him on one on one.. but i pretty
much like that guy from Blackburn, Flowers or something.. during
Blackburn hey day he was truly at his peak..
back on Keane against Fab, yes, i would agreed that Fab had
better natural talent then Keane but 1st they dun play in the same
role in their respective team 2ndly, he had Ince to cover his back
when things goes wrong, just like Bruce and Pallister, Bruce was
the more vocal one but Pallister was the quiet one cover things up
when Bruce speed was exposed.. so in a way they compliment each
other but as for Fab, who is going to do the covering??
Kan might have some problems with SAF or rather the other way
round (that i had to admit i dunno) but do you happenned to know
about the rule change with regards to players nationality during
the start of EPL from the England Division one or probably after 2
EPL season?
Becks was indeed a better replacement for Kan in term of what
Beckham achived but ManU speed suffer as a result and had to change
the way they counter attack
as for Giggs, i had so much respect for him during those days..
but even with his skill and football brain he was told off by SAF
for not scoring enough goals..
but all these are just my opinion.. lets go enjoy our new year
and hope this year we will get to see more of football discussion
then cat fight ard here...
Cheers to all !!!!!
Well, to be honest... I did had some knowledged of his
problems even before he joint United. The reason why i said it was
not just the man who made the club but rather the club that made
the man is... Cantona had serious problem way back in France...
Maybe he couldn't even stay in France to play thats why he was one
of those who came to England during those years when many
didn't...
I still recalled when Fergie signed Cantona, there wasn't a big
fanfare unlike Berbatov joining United... He was just another
player. If anything, the moved from Leeds to United made more
headlines than the player itself...
What made Cantona different then and why the fans started to
love him was not just because he scored goals... He brought a
certain style to United's game. At a time when the old division one
and the early premiership was more on physical and brutal force, he
was different... They had not seen a player with
such skills and style then... His treadmark chips, flicks and
back heels brought excitement to the fans... And he did them really
well that even today's player don't dare to attempt... should
it make them look silly if it doesn't come off.
On Keane, he was a young lad then so he probably didn't dare to
throw his weight around like the Keane we eventually came to
know...
In my opinion, Lehmann was a very outstanding keeper too...
who played every game for Arsenal in that year they when unbeaten
and won the epl title... But of course I do rate Schmeichel
above him. Seaman was also a very decent keeper at his
time.
On Keane and Fab, I have to inform you that Keane was not always
the defensive midfielder that we came to know him for in his later
years... He was more of an attacking midfielder when he
first arrived as a 22 yrs old. He was bought to replace an
ageing Robson in the AF role. By 24, Ince (his then defensive
partner in midfield) was no longer with him and he had Nicky Butt
and Paul Scholes by his side... Butt was always the DM,
Keane was the attacking one. Scholes did well playing AM and Keane
excel in his role in breaking up plays that Fergie eventually
settled on the 4 of Giggs, Scholes, Keane & Beck. Together the
4 was fantastic. So you can see Keane wasn't very different from
Fabregas at that age...
Yes, Fergie did had problems with Kanchelskis towards his last
year... He became injury prone to a certain extent when Fergie
thought he was fit enough while he felt he wasn't... Just like Saha
before he was sold also to Everton (ironic)... United lost out to
Blackburn in the league and Everton in the FA cup that
year. Fergie eventually sold him but he did do well for
Everton for a short period tho.
You are correct that they did change the rule in 1995. It came
about because of the Bosman rule where all EU members players could
moved to whichever club they wanted when their contract expired. So
the limited numbers of players one can used was over.
Indeed Giggs was a great player at the height of his career.
Unfortunately, he is from Wales therefore never really got the
recognition from the rest of the world... But at least he is now
the most decorated player with 10 EPL medals, something that would
take some beating not just in England but throughout Europe
too.
