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last SG · 2009-05-14T00:39:06+00:00

Hi to all, hope everybody benefited from this thread.Btw: There's a news report on a SureForWin Scam on channel 8 a few days back. I hope none of you all are...

the_fallen SG

the_fallen, good luck!

I hope to hear your success story too :)
I love listening to success stories

thanks in advance.

Xxcyberguoxx SG

Hi! I am new to all these. I am currently considering about joining as LFI business partner something like that. I want to know if this company is worthwhile to join, if this company is trustworthy as in something like if it is a scam (no offense).

What I heard from them, so far, is that I have to pay $2000 or $856 for a package before I can really start. This package includes products that I can use it personally or market it out, it also includes some other benefits something like the amount of commisions I get to receive from the people under me in the network.

Since I am still schooling, I'd be working as a part-time kind. I was told that I'd also need to recruit more people under me, recommend people to purchase any products from LFI.

I hope someone could guide me a through the decision making.

Thanks =)

Ajen SG

Since I am still schooling, I'd be working as a part-time kind. I was told that I'd also need to recruit more people under me, recommend people to purchase any products from LFI.

I hope someone could guide me a through the decision making.

Thanks =)

lol dont ever try to join L.F.I ;)

thats my only advice for u.

Xxcyberguoxx SG

May I know what is your reason behind it? because your response of not to join does not explains and solves the doubt in my heart.

the_fallen SG

Since I am still schooling, I'd be working as a part-time kind. I was told that I'd also need to recruit more people under me, recommend people to purchase any products from LFI.

I hope someone could guide me a through the decision making.

Thanks =)

Well for most mlm companies, there is this "Memebership Fee" which is included in the package together with the products.

Instead of just paying (forced sales) for the products, only agree to pay the membership fee which is around $20-$80 this kind of range which varies accordingly to different companies..some companies have yearly membership renewal fee as well.

so if that person who ever told/sold you the product cum membership price, that person and their uplines are all in conspiracy to squeeze money out from any newbies in this industry..

you might want to reconsider your options about joining any company/distributors that is eager to captialize on prospect's lack of knowledge in attempt to make "quick money".

Fyi Only: By signing up with only membership status, no products, you are only allowed to sell products and not recruitment.

That's it, hope it answers your question.

Xxcyberguoxx SG

Well for most mlm companies, there is this "Memebership Fee" which is included in the package together with the products.

so if that person who ever told/sold you the product cum membership price, that person and their uplines are all in conspiracy to squeeze money out from any newbies in this industry..

you might want to reconsider your options about joining any company/distributors that is eager to captialize on prospect's lack of knowledge in attempt to make "quick money".

Fyi Only: By signing up with only membership status, no products, you are only allowed to sell products and not recruitment.

That's it, hope it answers your question.

Thanks alot. I still have a uncleared mystery.

The membership fee includes products that are within that amount of money I pay (as stated earlier). I am also able to recruit people to put under my network, which means I'm the people that I recruit's upline. Do you think it is considered safe to take on? (As in I'd not be scammed if I join)

As I am new, I am afraid that I would fall into the trap of a scam on my first venture out to business (not those small temporary jobs like flyer-distribution), but I do not want to miss this chance if it is one as it is difficult to find one at my level as I am still schooling.

Thanks:)

the_fallen SG

Thanks alot. I still have a uncleared mystery.

Thanks:)

Most companies DO ALLOW purely membership signup registrations, But only less than 0.01% of the distributors will be willing to share with you on this fact as they (the person who introduce you in and their uplines) do not make a single penny from it.

Just paying for the minimal will do and it is sufficient to secure your placement, and have any late new members to be place below you. (If they hold true to their promise) as this is one tatic which most distributors use to trick newbies into believing that they will help them but in fact, they don't. Don't be fooled by them.

Gentle reminder: While you can reserve the spot by buying a position in the rank, it doesn't mean anything even if your friend/upline throw new members below you..as they will learn from their upline/sponsor/the person who bring them in and not you.

The only benefit you have as a early bird is that if you work hard and have results, you can leverage on the group sales volume for easier promotion. That is the ONE AND ONLY BENEFIT as a early bird.

Another thing is make sure your membership is a lifetime one, not the type which requires renewal else don't bother signing up.

eagle SG

Gentle reminder: If the cash to throw in is too much for your financial status, don't bother taking the risks. Why? You are still schooling.

The same goes for any other investments.

Xxcyberguoxx SG

Thanks the_fallen and eagle ^^ I have a more clearer picture of how I am going to choose now. Thanks alot ^^

Xxcyberguoxx SG

Thanks the_fallen and eagle ^^ I have a more clearer picture of how I am going to choose now. Thanks alot ^^

the_fallen SG

Thanks the_fallen and eagle ^^ I have a more clearer picture of how I am going to choose now. Thanks alot ^^

don't mention it..

glad to be of help.

PS: the next time you want to ask questions, kindly write/post your questions in another thread of mine >> http://www.sgforums.com/forums/14/topics/387291 as this thread is focus on handling complaints against any distributors/agents regardless of the company he/she is in.

Thanks for your cooperation.

Xxcyberguoxx SG

don't mention it..

glad to be of help.

Thanks for your cooperation.

Oh I see.. My apologies. I didn't know about it. Thanks alot^^

the_fallen SG

Oh I see.. My apologies. I didn't know about it. Thanks alot^^

don't mention it. =)

pacer SG

The only way to succeed in MLM is to do the right things at the start. What is MLM? Multi-level marketing. Marketing=selling. You must sell not buy. You are there to make money, not throwing in your money.

The distribution or commission system is good but only the brain shelter evil thoughts. All that I can say, No companies had yet to prove that they are sharing the right stuff about MLM. Quote me one if you can, Not one from the days of A1w1y from malaysia(1985), tu11erware(1986), num1er o1e pro1uct(1992), As1yo(1992) till today.

the_fallen SG

Well, if you are here on the offendsive side..than you are free to create your own threads and in my thread.

BTW:

#1: In case you didn't notice, this thread is meant for Voicing of Complaints against MLM Agents, you apparently failed to read and observe the rules of my thread.

#2: What is your purpose of being here? 2A >> Ask a qn? 2B >> Ans a qn? 2C >> Be a aggressor not following the rules of my thread just to show off your point?

the_fallen SG

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eagle SG

Loophole 1

TS, you are a MLM agent too I supposed? So this thread is valid if someone wants to complain about you? ;)

Loophole 2

This thread does not belong to you, nor are you the chosen moderator of this sub-forum. It belongs to SgForums and moderated by the moderators. Anyone from the public has the right to post, no matter whether they agree or disagree with the terms. You do not have the right to list your own terms and conditions simply because you do not own SgForums. By posting in this thread, users only need to agree with the terms and conditions put out by SgForums, not you, as you are merely a fellow user of SgForums. In short, you have no rights whatsoever to ask anyone to leave your thread, nor set any rules for anyone, even if they want to display aggression and immaturity. You have, however, the right to choose whether to reply.

the_fallen SG

Loophole 1

TS, you are a MLM agent too I supposed? So this thread is valid if someone wants to complain about you? ;)

Loophole 2

Well, you can have your doubts..i'm okay with it..

You want to complain me..just go ahead lor..just back it up with evidence if you can find it..

All along over the years, I've being here just offer free advices..since this forum is filled with nothing but skeptical people with no related knowledge or expertises in this area.

Since when did I promote any company or upsell any distributors?

If you have any link to any moderators / the forum owner wants to check..just ask them to use their authority account to check my inbox and outbox lor..

I have nothing to fear..

For those who don't like my style of running this thread which I created..all that i'm doing is just to keep it the way I am doing..offering Quality and not Quantity (non-helpful advices) which will only cause more newbies to throw in more money instead of saving their hard-earned money.

Since this is a gossip based forum to being with since the time i got to know of this thread..i take it up to my own Quality Post and Replies to differentiate myself via giving completely free advices/remarks for those people who are sencerely asking for help and nothing else.

I know the nature of this forum inside out, thus the TOU is meant to protect my reputation and my quality post and replies for those agressive sour-gape eaters.

I still remember the older days when I was like on the target board being flamed until it's like 3-5 against 1 (that's me) but i am still standing here..

Quality, not Quantity is the way I do things..(I'm just offering Free Advices openly with anybody who may be interested).

If you are not happy with me or my post, as long as you can provide valid, solid comments, helpful feedbacks, with your related knowledge of experience, expertises and even insights to how they operate, I do welcome you on board to help out.. (don't believe, look at page 7 of this very thread, you replied back to add-on to offer more helpful advice to that user..did i quote you/flame you or anything, I did nothing, for the fact is i acknowledge that particular thread reply of yours was helpful so i just let it be.)

I did mention somewhere in one of my recent thread replies (something like can ask some kind senior forum users for advices etc..) did I not?

For others who may not like the way I do things, I didn't at once force or spam other people's threads to direct traffic to my threads in the first place..in fact it's others who are trying to hi-jack my thread for their own benefits

their aggressive actions of spamming my thread is the reason why that forced me to put the TOU >> that is is Disclaimer to tell people who don't listen to the rules

I'm here to help and not to make enemies for your info.

In case you forgotten..just to refresh your memories..the very reason I know so much in-depth stuffs is due to the fact I was also once a victim, my investments was lost to their scam, so i'm here only to help others by not letting them follow my foot-steps of being tricked by some un-trained agents who overpromised etc..

eagle SG

Where did I state I have my doubts on you?

Just some reminders for you on the loopholes. Relax, this is just a forum

I'm busy enough not to spend too much time in forums. In fact, I'm a little sick now, and I attributing it to having overworked a little. Well, guess that's the price to have my current networth before the age of 27. Sometimes, I just feel that I can't ask most of my friends on how I can progress from here to accelerate my networth growth because I'm already way ahead most of them. Ask sincerely or even discuss about it, and they will think you are showing off. Don't ask, and I need to think even harder by myself.

Oh well, enough of my rant. Shall not disturb this thread.

the_fallen SG

Where did I state I have my doubts on you?

Just some reminders for you on the loopholes. Relax, this is just a forum

Oh well, enough of my rant. Shall not disturb this thread.

apparently, when you said "Loophole" that is already doubts being casted..

If you're having the fortune of your time above peers your age, congrats to your success in stocks trading..

If you want to remain in contact with friends, just share your fruits of labour (leisure time u spend on adult toys with them lor..) i'm sure they will be motivated to learn from you if you mean it to share the steps with them..

Anyway..if you have helpful add-on advice, just feel free to post in future, as long as u think it's helpful and useful, it will be beneficial to the newbies in here too since you and i have different expertises in different industries.

All the best to your trading. =)

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