The cult of evil: MLM

Xcelon82 SG

It is not the same at all. Seems like you still don't understand why... but I'm lazy to elaborate further for you.

Anyway, non-employees wouldn't use the term profit sharing for themselves.

There are many differences between many jobs. You have been influenced to think that it is different from other employees, therefore it is better. A salesman is still a salesman. No difference for an insurance agent or a bank financial consultant.

Or if you want like to play with terms only, pple in the company I work in are not employees. We are all team-members.

Don't worry abt that. I know the difference.

I won't debate about profit sharing since there is no point in doing that.

If you think being an insurance agent is an employee, that is incorrect. You won't find any websites or sources that says a full commission based insurance agent is an employees of a company.

It is indeed different from other employee's job. It is similar to an insurance agent though.

A salesman sells product or services. True. However, that does not mean they are employees.

Selling is one of the world's most honorable profession. If you want to do a biz or be a salesman, you have to learn how to sell. In fact, even being an employee needs to sell themselves first.

marcteng SG

Don't worry abt that. I know the difference.

I won't debate about profit sharing since there is no point in doing that.

If you think being an insurance agent is an employee, that is incorrect. You won't find any websites or sources that says a full commission based insurance agent is an employees of a company.

It is indeed different from other employee's job. It is similar to an insurance agent though.

A salesman sells product or services. True. However, that does not mean they are employees.

Selling is one of the world's most honorable job. If you want to do a biz or be a salesman, you have to learn how to sell. In fact, even being an employee needs to sell themselves first.

selling is an art and some people have perfected the art of selling, but they did so with deceit, dishonesty and fraud in mind.

those conmen are usually those with a gift of gab and nice appearance.

Xcelon82 SG

That is why i said that. Outside the ministry, it is more important for a sales person to have high moral standards than any other profession because they are trained to persuade people to take action.

It is best for them to be trained to persuade prospects to take action that is in their best interest.

eagle SG

Don't worry abt that. I know the difference.

I won't debate about profit sharing since there is no point in doing that.

If you think being an insurance agent is an employee, that is incorrect. You won't find any websites or sources that says a full commission based insurance agent is an employees of a company.

It is indeed different from other employee's job. It is similar to an insurance agent though.

A salesman sells product or services. True. However, that does not mean they are employees.

Selling is one of the world's most honorable profession. If you want to do a biz or be a salesman, you have to learn how to sell. In fact, even being an employee needs to sell themselves first.

Aiyah suits you

You don't see it as being an employee, I do see you as an employee.

Example... a tuition teacher at Stalford is paid according to the number of students who sign up for his/her class. It is fully commission based. Is the teacher considered employed? Maybe no to you, but it's a yes to me.

Never mind la, you happy can liao. Just be the king who wears his new clothes and struts around can liao :D

Xcelon82 SG

Aiyah suits you

You don't see it as being an employee, I do see you as an employee.

Never mind la, you happy can liao. Just be the king who wears his new clothes and struts around can liao :D

Haha. Please don't get me wrong. I don't mean that the difference in status means im king or what.

Being a representative doesn't neccesarily means that im better or what. Just that the positioning and certain flexibility is there.

maskedangel SG

Where is this email from? Government website?

Go ask Ngee An Poly.

eagle SG

Haha. Please don't get me wrong. I don't mean that the difference in status means im king or what.

Being a representative doesn't neccesarily means that im better or what. Just that the positioning and certain flexibility is there.

erm

It's just an analogy. Haven't you heard of the story of the Emperor's new clothes?

But it's ok. I still find you having less flexibility. At least I can "reprimand" my customers. They are not always right.

Xcelon82 SG

Well, it's how you see it.

Since when we can't reprimand our customers???

Anyway, nevermind about that. There will always be a difference in opinion.

eagle SG

Well, it's how you see it.

Since when we can't reprimand our customers???

Anyway, nevermind about that. There will always be a difference in opinion.

Since when we can't reprimand our customers???

So when do you reprimand your customers, and still retain their business and make them think you are still good? ;)

Xcelon82 SG

Like when they give unreasonable demand at the expense of your time or your kindness?

For example, a customer may demand you to bring the products to their house everytime they order it even though they could opt for auto shipment.

In this scenario, it would be wise of you to highlight to them on a better alternatives to it no?

eagle SG

From the way you describe, you still have less flexibility

Nvm... lazy to teach also... tonight is my early sleep night... nights

Deino SG

the "free and easy" flexibility of being and MLM agent when you're at the start is just an illusion...though not hold true for some, it holds true for most...thats wot i think...

Come whenever you can...bla bla bla...its a fact that you are made to attend all their shit...
They make it sound like its some kinda tuition class...

In the end most agents end up spend alot of money travelling, eating and spend on whatever shit it is that they are advised on and not making any money to even cover for their expenses...

Deino SG

Received this email from my school

MLM is illegal?

Heartzzz SG

Received this email from my school

Well if this is really true coming from NP, i can honestly say that the country will be a better place if MLM is illegal here in SG...lolz..(pun not intended)

4 MLMers, it will be a blessing in disguise for you all..realli...ha

trendz SG

Hi guys.

My friend was called up for an interview as a management trainee but he doesn’t remember applying for this position.

He received this email after speaking to a lady from EY (not Ernst and Young) who called and she said they’re a financial company. She said they had engaged a headhunting company but are unable to reveal which website (JobsDB or JobStreet, etc) it is due to confidentiality purposes.

She also said it’s not an MLM company and are purely a financial company.

This is the email:

Hi XXXXX,

This position will be a management trainee

Your interview details are as follows:

Date: 15/07/09 (Wed)
Time: 3pm.
Venue: 402 Delfi Orchard, Orchard Road #06-01

Please bring along a hard copy of your resume certificates and IC

You can contact me at 6507XXXX

A confirmation reply would be much appreciated upon receiving this email.

Thanks
PXXXXX

Anyone can advise? Thanks.

redstone SG

Aiyah suits you

You don't see it as being an employee, I do see you as an employee.

Never mind la, you happy can liao. Just be the king who wears his new clothes and struts around can liao :D

You don't have customers, u dont have the income.

If your downlines all decide to go on strike, there goes your "5 figure" income.

Stable income? I hardly think so.

eagle SG

You don't have customers, u dont have the income.

If your downlines all decide to go on strike, there goes your "5 figure" income.

Stable income? I hardly think so.

quoted wrongly? I'm not MLMer

Deino SG

Hi guys.

My friend was called up for an interview as a management trainee but he doesn’t remember applying for this position.

She also said it’s not an MLM company and are purely a financial company.

This is the email:

Hi XXXXX,

This position will be a management trainee

Your interview details are as follows:

Date: 15/07/09 (Wed)
Time: 3pm.
Venue: 402 Delfi Orchard, Orchard Road #06-01

Please bring along a hard copy of your resume certificates and IC

You can contact me at 6507XXXX

A confirmation reply would be much appreciated upon receiving this email.

Thanks
PXXXXX

Anyone can advise? Thanks.

Delfi? That near Bunka..lol...missed that place...

Anyways..from wot i know agents use the letters EY as a shortform of Enyouth..
Ofcourse which company will say they are MLM right?

My advice is tell your friend to do research about MLM first and then go for the interview to determine whether it is genuine to play safe...lol...anything can happen

redstone SG

Hi guys.

My friend was called up for an interview as a management trainee but he doesn’t remember applying for this position.

She also said it’s not an MLM company and are purely a financial company.

This is the email:

Hi XXXXX,

This position will be a management trainee

Your interview details are as follows:

Date: 15/07/09 (Wed)
Time: 3pm.
Venue: 402 Delfi Orchard, Orchard Road #06-01

Please bring along a hard copy of your resume certificates and IC

You can contact me at 6507XXXX

A confirmation reply would be much appreciated upon receiving this email.

Thanks
PXXXXX

Anyone can advise? Thanks.

probe for name of company. You have full right to know which company u're going to interview with right? If they still hide here n there, about their name and which field they're in ("financial" can be very wide), got chance is MLM.

I found a EUNICE YUEN & ASSOCIATES occupying this unit via google

Xcelon82 SG

From the way you describe, you still have less flexibility

Nvm... lazy to teach also... tonight is my early sleep night... nights

Haha. Its your opinion.

You can save your teaching for others who might need it but thanks anyway.

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