Bel' Air

last SG · 2006-03-24T14:29:35+00:00

anyone knows George Lim from FGN personally?

VeryFree1 SG

Originally posted by k2wanviet:

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Agreed. I am 100% sure laurence82 is not from Bel'Air. I have read his postings on other threads and tend to concur with most of his comments. Let's continue to debate and expose Bel'Air's unethical business practices, only then can forumers searching relevant informations be convinced that we are serious and not lambast Bel'Air for nothing.[/b]

Yes , i totally agreed with k2wanviet & let continue to expose this company unethical business practices.

life2bfun - from the way you wrote , i believe you might have very bad experience in BA, mind to share ? Smile

Life2BfUn SG

Yes, I do agreed with the above you mentioned. As due to human are easily influenced by atmosphere, people, words etc..... mostly everything cos we've thought & feelings. Sometime is good to sick to your own princpal. I do think education is quite important as we've gained more knowledges, not just because of using that paper to prove what. With these papers, people will kinda respect you & know your educational level. Cos nowaday people kinda treat each other fairly regardless of the papers.

Do you know some of the graduate BA leaders said these papers are like toilet papers to them, of cos lah these papers definitely is worthless in MLM, but they still boasted they've alot of under grad/graduate in their group. (Haha, firstly they claimed this, later on boasted that!) (Human are confused lots!)

Life2BfUn SG

All guys out there jus quote MLM/BA issues over here, dun talk other rubbish over here. And if you're really damn innocent or what, it won't be a matter to you whether you been accused or what? I'm jus stating the fact of what our topics over here are for what. PLS UNDERSTAND THAT ONCE AGAIN!

And "if" you're his/her friend, pls once again JUST QUOTE about ur point of BA/MLM topics, it non of ur biz whether I'm accusing anyone, if you're not friend of Laure... If so then I can understand you're just trying to help ur sort of "innocent" friend over here.

Ok, I've mentioned again & again B4 JUST QUOTE RITE NOW once & for all, hopefully there won't be any nonsense msg over here Exclamation

Ya, the BA always mentioned you dun need to be so educational in BA, any1 can join. 1 of the 3 big groups in S'pore claimed they looking for 4 quantities in their potential associates. And there will show you those inspiration/motivated quotes or powerpoints. Talk about life, fate, dreams, hope, changes, your parents etc...... Some of their associates will share with you their dreams or why they were doing this biz.

laurence82 SG

Are you specifically anti BA, or comes from another MLM company, or have other agendas?

What disturbing me is your references to Robert Kiyosaki's books while at the same time condemning BA to heck..another telling sign

Eikei SG

I really suspect your agenda when it comes to your posts as you are either unable to articulate your thoughts well or have some knowledge or opinion you are not saying out in the open yet. Like most sales people, qualifications do not matter to an entry-level salesman but why do senior salesman or marketing executives all hold degrees? There must be some value to the training of the mind in those years in the university correct? It is callous for anyone to dismiss education in favor of starting work in an industry as unstable and untested as the MLM industry.

Life2BfUn SG

Hey me again! And they use example of Bill Gates who dropout of uni & now he is world top billionaire. Pls, in the earth, how many people can be like Bill Gates so lucky. (With ideas, creative) How many Bill Gates are there in the world now? How many Einstein Albert are there since he deceased? No rite!

Life2BfUn SG

Haha, does it matter to you whether I'm 'specifically' anti BA? Then those who claimed to send "police" to check on them, does it mean they wanted to condemn BA? Why you don't ask them the question as you asking me? (Very funny) Why you bother if I condemning it to heck? Since as you "not" in BA, why is that so is disturbing you?

Are you a fan of Robert. T. Kiyosaki? Have you read before other MLM books beside his? Alot of MLM companies are using his books to share with their prospects. Cos in his book are all postitive claims of MLM.

Haiz, the topic here are for us to share what we thought of BA is not our cup of tea, is not really that good as other seem, some claimed it conned people. So there won't be any nice compliments about them! You still dun understand?

laurence82 SG

I would love to share my comments, only if the posts i read dont look like its written and coloured like some Montessori school homework

Laughing

Life2BfUn SG

Ha, I dun need alot of people to get what I meant! Put it in a simple way, U dun understand what I'm writing about, it ok, as some of others do understand it. Laughing

Pls... if you're refering to those jobs, of cos it understandable you dun need a degrees or so to do that. And do you think degrees holders will be doing sales, not mostly.

What I'm not saying out in open, or what I'm hiding, pls enlighten me.

Do I really have to say alot or explain from A to Z for everthing I quoted then it will be a very long essay. Those EX-BA & people attended the seminar b4 will understand it. Wink

Those words..... "toilet papers" were been said by BA leaders! They dun think U need to further your study as...........

SO HAVE YOU ATTEND BA SEMINAR B4? PLS DO ANS MY QUESTION TOO! TKS.

P/S: Dun question me as your buddy, Lauren.... do. JUST QUOTE YOUR OPTIONAL ABOUT MLM OR BA.

Life2BfUn SG

I can understand some people are not creative or colourful sort. Dun used such excuses lah, for God sake!

And you're not just sharing ur comments to me, for other too. Hey, some of the others are not highlighting their words, why you dun comment over them instead?

Halo, really u dun commented on "dont look like its written and coloured like some Montessori school homework" then why previously you're doing that! Real funny rite, guys out there! Just childish excuse not to quote, it ok, save it so, tks! Hope you won't be commenting anymore as you claimed.

Life2BfUn SG

Halo, everyone out there, just quote it. You're here to quote whatever you think Bel'Air is not damn good!

We dun bother you're Ex-BA, Attended their seminar B4 just comment anything bad about Bel'Air here. As Bel'Air supporters, you're welcome to read but pls do not write theory to us, tks!

Here our topic are about our views of disagreed of what BA are doing.

Pls excused us, if it seem "horrible" Twisted Evil to BA supporters out here! This our spaces to share our bad views about BA. If offended, pls do leave here ASAP!

laurence82 SG

So this thread is dedicated to only anti BA discussion?

Sigh, how have people perverted the meaning of 'discussion'

Eikei SG

It isn't much of a discussion if its just posts about how bad BA is and stuff is it? This topic is Bel'Air, not SLAM Bel'Air or BAD THINGS about Bel'Air.

I can't really understand what you mean by

QUOTE YOUR OPTIONAL ABOUT MLM OR BA

But I do know that what you are writing seems highly distorted, not only by all the colours and underlines and bolds but also by all the random targeting any anybody who happens to have anything to say here.

k2wanviet SG

I have read threads posted in NTI- Paris and topic started by Eikei " To all young MLMers ". Postings from laurence82 & Eikei demostrated clearly they are against unscrupulous MLM companies, just like most of us here. I have no doubts at all their good intentions of warning people to be wary of some MLM companies who are out to make a quick buck through brainwashing & misrepresentations.

In particular, I find Bel'Air disguised pyramid scheme of focusing on recruitment rather than product abhorrent and distasteful. I stand by what I say about Bel'Air:- Recruitment oriented with every intention to get those attending their seminars to cut Count costing more than 12K. The cycle repeats itself with the newly recruited Count looking for more Counts. You call this an MLM company? I am still waiting for a post who feels Bel'Air is a great company, has changed their lives or whatsoever.

dokono SG

Just to add, i know friends who may have been ''convinced'' or ''psychoed'' in some way or another that Belair is a great company and they believe it initially until somehow along the way they lost the drive or motivation to continue the so-called business and they find that they regretted they had been irrational in making the decision.

The result is that some of them STILL owe people and banks money. wtf?! Some wanted to refund but can't because they lost their invoice. And the company which still holds the record of the invoice refused to refund one of my friends. They really regret their decision to join this bloody company. Another friend took a long time to wait for his refund and I don't know if he still got back his refund. Maybe not yet? One more thing also: distributors will not get back their full refund because of GST 5% and the 10 % loss if u decide to quit after more than 2 weeks. I dunno if they still have other miscellaneous charges to minimise their loss as well as ur refunds.

VeryFree1 SG

Donoko, if your friend can get 60~70% refund, then he /she must thank god liao, becos now the new ugly method these BA SUKERS using is when ppl cut count (later once they cut become clown), their uplines will design the count products for his new clown to purchase at leat 50~60% on those non-refundable good like cosmetics & health products.

So when the new clown wanted to withdrawn before 90days, he/she also cannot get back the money Sad Sad Sad . You know why, becos if the downline withdraw, the uplines have to pay back the commission they have earned earlier. As everone know all these SUCKERS uplines have no $$$$, how the hell they get the $$$$ pay back to the Company & they also don want to pay Twisted Evil

In short" U die better than i die"

So ATTENTION all NEW CLOWN, please check your invoice carefully & don happy so soon....REFUND....ha ha ha .... no way.......... DAMN

VeryFree1 SG

I don think there will be anyone will post Bel'Air is a great company but what i know Bel'air really changed some of the ppl life, from ordinary to bankruptcy Mr. Green

Some of them becos cannot pay the car loan, the finance company TOW car liao. One of the ex-distributor, previously was a small contractor then after joined Belair for about 3 years, owe ppl & bank about S$1xx,000 .......poor thing BELAIR really changed their life [/color] Twisted Evil

k2wanviet SG

Desperate and despicable uplines who will do anything for the sake of money Twisted Evil

When I posted in an earlier topic, this is what a Bel'Air Marquise wrote:-

hmmm.... All we've heard so far are negatives, some consolation for consumer protection is the money back guarantee... (which was not brought up in this forum)
if at any point anyone joining the business felt this is not for them, thgere's a 100% money back guarantee in 14 days and those taking a bigger position like Count, there;s 90% refund by the company +10% refund by upline (so its still 100%) money back guarantee within 6 months upon joining.
Oh ,,,, and sorry if this piece of information is out of place here - not intended to be rhetoric, desparate or dodging....just for general information if its of any use for your curiosity.[/i][/color]

Do you think these people can be trusted?

Eikei SG

It sounds very nice to have their refund Policy but according to MLM laws, they are required to give a 100% refund within 60 Days minus an acceptable administrative fee. They are shortchanging people who are asking for refunds if they get any less than this or are denied refunds before the 60 days is up.

i even more free SG

true lor...thats the reason y i'm here to warn others before they join. The 10% refund by the upline is only applicable that the uplines are still active and has sales volume. furthermore, the 90% refund by company is for those non-promotional items onli, i.e. not all 90% as stated. that person who wanted the refun can really "kao bo bak sai"....as what happened to many of my friends Crying or Very sad

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