Bel' Air

last SG · 2006-03-24T14:29:35+00:00

anyone knows George Lim from FGN personally?

Life2BfUn SG

How NTI? Where the founder of NTI??? Somewhere in "p_ _ _..." Dun come here to anti others MLM company when yourself also in MLM!!!! What for, all these MLM believers only "believe or trust" theirs is the best _uckers AsX! Excuse my words, man!!!

P/S: Twisted Evil -uckers, S not F Laughing

ForsakenBeing SG

Hi all,

I had decided not to post the fact about Diron Chua...

Somehow i feel i have done enough of what i should be doing..

Life goes on and i should be embarking on my new life journey rather being a gossiper...

Anyway..

I would like to emphasize on something...

I feel i make an error in my own judgement as well..

Being that thou i find the way AAA functions really unethically for some ppl, there are still a minority others that are trying to do a proper job inside.

Therefore i strongly stress that my experience only restrict to the group which im in...

Therefore, i hope ppl who are reading this forum n my posts do realise that this is a general remark made and its not applicable to everyone. U got to practice ur own judgement whether what is right and what is wrong.

So, if u happen to be recommended into this business by the right ppl who are trying to make this business right, then good luck and may u learnt as much things as possible inside, cos u are indeed much luckier than i do.

And guys, i hope my posts create a detailed description on how AAA functions generally and what are the things u need to look out for.

Belair is not wrong... Just too bad some of the leaders are all wrong..
So dont follow the wrong ppl cos u will be lead astray too..
If ur gut feeling is that u feel everything is right, do try to find out every detail before thinking of joining them.
If u feel they are trying to hide something from you, then be quick to react and stop all the exploring.

Everything is up to each individual...

To cap things off... i would like to warn anyone who are going to explore this business of some ppl u might want to beware of...

If u happen to be recommended into AAA by these ppl...

Then i suggest u to give up all thoughts at once...

Marquis Ong Kay Yong. (aka Wang Qi Yang)
Marquis Hwee Hwee.
Marquis Mike Lim Ze Cheng
Marquis Guo Zijun, Fion.
Duke Diron Chua (aka Cai Zi Chuan)
Duke Leon Neo Li Yao
C.Marquis Emannuel.

These are some of the harmful beings who are doing all the wrong things in AAA, based of my past experiences or recent updates/experience with the above individuals.

Lastly, remember that there are many different views of seeing things..
My posts describe all the negativity of this business and u are welcome to measure it with the positivity.

Should u feel that u can still succeed, then follow ur gut feeling and i wish u all the best...

And to fellow forumers..
especially ppl like life2bfun, k2wanviet, VeryFree1..
i can understand how u all feel cos we all are from the same boat...
but please dont use any of your personal feelings to make certain comments.
Some comments that i read is too full of hatred.
Even mine own posts give such creepy feelings too now that i read thru them once more.
If someone u know from AAA did something wrong or unethical, just point out what the person did wrong and who he or she is k?
Be objective and precise in every comments..
We are against the bad guys from AAA..
Not against the good ones nor the whole MLM industry nor Belair company..

So May Peace be with u all..

k2wanviet SG

Many were looking forward to the revelations that will rock AAA/BelAir but unfortunately it is not going to happen. It is a disappointment but we were no gossipers. It is the truth that have convinced people like knightIII to make a wise decision.

As you said we are in the same boat and shall reserve my comments for anyone who dare say AAA/Bel'Air is running a ethical business. Full of hatred??
Put it this way:- I am totally in disagreements with their "business model" unless proven otherwise. I stand by what I have said and commented about AAA/Bel'Air.

As long as AAA/Bel'Air are promoting Count or "1+5" investments, I cannot bring myself to believe those involved are the "good guys". Do they really do it with a clear conscience that they are helping those who join them? I seriously doubt their motivations.

AAA/Bel'Air must go to prevent more people from being harm.It is incredible such an organisation is allowed to exist. Twisted Evil

ForsakenBeing SG

No problems bro...
stand up for what u believe is wrong...

everyone got their own choices...

btw...

This is a new updated list of all the harmful beings in AAA..

Duke Diron Chua Tze Chuan
Duke Leon Neo Li Yao
Marquis Hwee Hwee
Marquis Kenny Ong
Marquis Chua Wanyi
Marquis Mike Lim
Marquis Guo Zijun, Fion
Marquis Ong Kay Yong
C.Marquis Emannuel Low

Life2BfUn SG

Ya, I agreed with you, man. And please, I do not have any hatred for anythings or anyone, I just think what is right or wrong. Or just to be fair to say my point of view.
And still now I've doubt on MLM which really can bring wealth to people, provided if you have the $ to invested in MLM, then it will be the right stuff for you perhaps, if not sorry to say it not meant for us, normal, average earning men! Neutral

VeryFree1 SG

Wat i know this group "da bian/ si" is the top producers in AAA. Twisted Evil

chokolatte SG

Date : 16th Sep 2006 (Sat)
Time : 12-3pm
Venue: NUS Kent Ridge Hall Reading Room
Guest of Honor: Miss Carrine Yeo (NUS B.Sci
(ICM), KR Hall Alumni)

We have been able to grab hold of a young
successful entrepreneur, Miss Carrine Yeo, who
dares to be different to chair this upcoming
workshop! Come hear from her in person in this
Cashflow Workshop on how she become a
successful entreprenuer in a very short time after
graduation!

i saw this somewhere and feels rather disgusted abt it. the so called miss carrine yeo is actually a marquis (yeo ai hui) in bel'air, AAA, FGN group under marquis baldwin tan (owner of rx- Cool

can somebody pls pass this ard to prevent ppl frm gg to the cashflow workshop where they will make ppl think that be;'air is the only way to make big money and out of the rat race? i
went for this workshop once cos my friend told me its smth abt financial management and where successful business owner will gather. if i am lucky, i might have a partnership with them. During CF, they will have videos and powerpoint to tell u abt what 80/20 rule and rat race stuff. i was so convinced to get outta rat race. but then its all bullshit! Evil or Very Mad Mad

my friend who brought me to CF used to be under FGN Duke Ronald Lim's grp, under the care of marquis rx-8 and she cut the 1+5 cm plate to contribute to the sales vol (pv) for her leader to get promoted! she borrowed $72k for the 1+5 and more money for her power suit and pda and stuff! now she is suffering and heavily in debt. she returned her goods a good 6 mths ago but is yet to recieve payment frm the company cos her upline did not return back their commision! she is now in a bad shape and i urge all to pass mag ard so that nobody else suffer like my friend and the others.

those ppl are inhuman if u ask me. what i know is in Hiap huat hse lvl 4 and 3 belong to different grps. lvl 4 is mainly Duke Neo Lih Huey and lvl 3 Duke Ronald Lim. both dukes belong to the same duke i think. and those in lvl 3 operate in a even more inhuman way than lvl 4. ask them to buy cars, quit their job and got them in debt. so they have to slog in BA to pay off debts. almost 90% of the ppl in lvl 3 borrowed money to cut C. they are usually students, young working adults and overseas students frm vietnam and myammar.

my friend is trying hard to contact her uplineto get her miney back (more than 10k i think) but they refused to answer her call. the company say they cant do anything and she has to liase with the upline! despicable! Evil or Very Mad have money to hold wedding in swissotel and buy hse but no money to pay back to his poor in debt downline who dun have enuff to eat proper meals?! Mad wth is this!

anyone can give advice on what my friend can do? or the bank loan alone will eat her alive!

thanks Exclamation Wink

ForsakenBeing SG

AAA had claimed another victim yet again...

Im sad to say this but i think your friend hardly have any chance of getting even back a cent.

Thats the way some of the freaks do things inside

and for the goodwill of everyone...

do u know wat r the names of thos horrible creatures?

Lets post out their names so that everyone know who they are and can stay clear of such rubbish to the society.

List of Unethical Sickos in AAA To Watch Out For

Duke Diron Chua Tze Chuan
Duke Leon Neo Li Yao
Marquis Hwee Hwee
Marquis Kenny Ong
Marquis Chua Wanyi
Marquis Mike Lim
Marquis Guo Zijun, Fion
Marquis Ong Kay Yong
C.Marquis Emannuel Low

concerned_man SG

It will be a painful time for your friend this time, espcially if talking about 1+5 investment. There are many grey areas in the refund policy. The company will try to deduct their commission/paycheque next month to refund your friend. In the event if there is no commission or inactive activities from the uplines. The company claims that they cannot do anything about this, which I find it quite unacceptable.

Maybe it will be good to bring this case to the authority - CAD? At least for them to have a reference record, in case in future they can come back to re-examine. There are already a few cases where others have logged a complaint to CAD, but I think unsuccessful. But still can highlight the issue to them, make known about this case and make up the numbers. Numbers is important.

I think there is one level higher the CAD, can't remember which ministry.

k2wanviet SG

Originally posted by ForsakenBeing:
AAA had claimed another victim yet again...

Im sad to say this but i think your friend hardly have any chance of getting even back a cent.

Thats the way some of the freaks do things inside

and for the goodwill of everyone...

do u know wat r the names of thos horrible creatures?

Lets post out their names so that everyone know who they are and can stay clear of such rubbish to the society.
[b]
List of Unethical Sickos in AAA To Watch Out For

Duke Diron Chua Tze Chuan
Duke Leon Neo Li Yao
Marquis Hwee Hwee
Marquis Kenny Ong
Marquis Chua Wanyi
Marquis Mike Lim
Marquis Guo Zijun, Fion
Marquis Ong Kay Yong
C.Marquis Emannuel Low [/b]

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Who are those in AAA/Bel'Air that come up with the disguised pyramid scheme? The contemptible list should include those dastards high up in the pyramid. Without them. the "1+5" or "1+15" would'nt have existed in the first place.

Bros, good job but you have missed out the names of several sneaks like the 3 Loh sisters and Auntie Neo whose names were mentioned several times in this forum.

chokolatte SG

Thanks for the info. but what is CAD? how can my friend contact them? do you happened to have the contact number or address?

my friend is in level 3 of falcon global network. name of 'leaders in lvl 3 are

Duke Chris
Duke Jean
Duke Ronald Lim
Duke Don lim
Marquis Lim Shiyun
Marquis Baldwin Tan / RX-8
Marquis Ong Kai Yang
Marquis Yeo Ai Hui
Marquis zhiwei / alfa romeo
Marquis Allan Yeo
Marquis Richelle Wu
Marquis Tan Boon Hui
Marquis Jason

overseas 'leaders' are
Marquis Winnie
Marquis Sam
and some Marquis from vietnam, Myammar that i cannot remember.
names in italics are those who have a lot of 1+5 in their group.
think the people in level 4 are already quite 'popular' in here.

Duke Pamela Loh
Duke er-jie
Duke Veronica Loh
Duke Irene Lim
Duke Neo Lih Huey
Duke Leon Neo Li Yao /wrx
Duke Diron Chua Tze Chuan / jaguar
Marquis Hwee Hwee
Marquis Kenny Ong
Marquis Ong Kay Yong
Marquis Chua Wanyi
Marquis Mike Lim
Marquis Guo Zijun, Fion
C.Marquis Emannuel Low

i dunno much about the operation in lvl 4 but i guess its sinilar to those in lvl 3. what i have seen and heard is that if u dun cut 1+5 as told by ur upline, u will be regard as a outcast who dun have team spirit and ur 'leaders' will not help u cut count. even if u cut 1+5, u might not get help as well unless u are a general. ur upline will help u for 2-3 mths to let u go up marquis and if u dun, they move on to other generals. those generals who cant cut 1+5 also given a time frame to cut 5 counts and challenge marquis.
i knew these cos baldwin ever tell me the marketing plan before. & before doig so a lot of people will ask u why u want to get rich or smth. they will say abt 95% why and 5% how and the 80/20 rule. it will keep popping up. everyone say the same stuff and they claim that its their success model.

my friend showed my the cars of those 'leaders'. cant imagine how many ppl and how much money got cheated so that they hav the money to buy cars! makes me want to puke man.

well done for everyone here who is trying their best to bring justice. let's name down everyone there whom we know.

Life2BfUn SG

Originally posted by chokolatte:
Thanks for the info. but what is CAD? how can my friend contact them? do you happened to have the contact number or address?

my friend is in level 3 of falcon global network. name of 'leaders in lvl 3 are

Duke Chris / Jean (Couple)
Duke Ronald Lim / Don lim (Bro)
Marquis Lim Shiyun
Marquis Baldwin Tan / RX-8
Marquis Ong Kai Yang
Marquis Yeo Ai Hui
Marquis zhiwei / alfa romeo
Marquis Allan Yeo
Marquis Richelle Wu
Marquis Tan Boon Hui
Marquis Jason

Overseas 'leaders' are Marquis Winnie, Marquis Sam and some Marquis from vietnam, Myammar that i cannot remember.
names in italics are those who have a lot of 1+5 in their group.
think the people in level 4 are already quite 'popular' in here.

Duke Pamela Loh / Duke er-jie / Duke Veronica Loh (Loh Sis)
Duke Irene Lim
Duke Neo Lih Huey / Duke Leon Neo Li Yao(wrx) & Wife-Felicia. (Sliding)
Duke Diron Chua Tze Chuan (jaguar) / Marquis Chua Wanyi (Sliding)
Marquis Hwee Hwee
Marquis Kenny Ong / Marquis Ong Kay Yong (bro)
Marquis Mike Lim
Marquis Guo Zijun, Fion
C.Marquis Emannuel Low

i dunno much about the operation in lvl 4 but i guess its sinilar to those in lvl 3. what i have seen and heard is that if u dun cut 1+5 as told by ur upline, u will be regard as a outcast who dun have team spirit and ur 'leaders' will not help u cut count. even if u cut 1+5, u might not get help as well unless u are a general. ur upline will help u for 2-3 mths to let u go up marquis and if u dun, they move on to other generals. those generals who cant cut 1+5 also given a time frame to cut 5 counts and challenge marquis.
i knew these cos baldwin ever tell me the marketing plan before. & before doig so a lot of people will ask u why u want to get rich or smth. they will say abt 95% why and 5% how and the 80/20 rule. it will keep popping up. everyone say the same stuff and they claim that its their success model.

my friend showed my the cars of those 'leaders'. cant imagine how many ppl and how much money got cheated so that they hav the money to buy cars! makes me want to puke man.

well done for everyone here who is trying their best to bring justice. let's name down everyone there whom we know. [/b]

About the NUS thing, maybe you can go around warning your Uni friends to be careful, spread around the news!!!

Level 3 & 4 all are the same cos all are under the Loh Sisters so their tacties etc...... all are the same. When those "stupids" had bought the sport cars as Ma..z Rx8 Twisted Evil ONLY!!! Not BM or those highly branded sport cars, I was wonder nothing great about that!!! Loan to buy cars to con or show off as disguise on debt what for, man!!! Rolling Eyes Wink

Heard all Ducks & Monkeys' cars all on in loan!!!!! You just wait & see when they not longer driving the cars, what excuses they will give you. JUSt Watch Out !!!! Evil or Very Mad

P/S" Watch out those in bold. Mad

VeryFree1 SG

Just curious, are they still driving their cars? i was told some of them have sold their cars & some of them going to sell their cars...... ha ha ha "huo gai" Twisted Evil

One of this day must go to hiap huat house car park to see whether all these SUCKERS' cars still around Laughing

VeryFree1 SG

How come Marquis Hui San (Mike Lim's girlfriend) is not listed? she also another one.....

k2wanviet SG

____________________________________________________________________________

CAD= Commercial Affairs Department.It used to be under the Revenue Division of Ministry of Finance but now function as a separate department under the Singapore Police Force.They investigate white collar crimes in Singapore

SavedSoul recently lodged a complaint to CAD about AAA/Bel'Air(Page 24). You may send a Private Message to get the details from SavedSoul of the officer in charge at CAD.

Hope your friend will lodge a complaint against them. Keep us posted on the outcome.

k2wanviet SG

Duke Chris
Duke Jean
Duke Ronald Lim
Duke Don lim
Marquis Lim Shiyun
Marquis Baldwin Tan / RX-8
Marquis Ong Kai Yang
Marquis Yeo Ai Hui
Marquis zhiwei / alfa romeo
Marquis Allan Yeo
Marquis Richelle Wu
Marquis Tan Boon Hui
Marquis Jason

overseas 'leaders' are
Marquis Winnie
Marquis Sam
and some Marquis from vietnam, Myammar that i cannot remember.
names in italics are those who have a lot of 1+5 in their group.
think the people in level 4 are already quite 'popular' in here.

Duke Pamela Loh
Duke er-jie
Duke Veronica Loh
Duke Irene Lim
Duke Neo Lih Huey
Duke Leon Neo Li Yao /wrx
Duke Diron Chua Tze Chuan / jaguar
Marquis Hwee Hwee
Marquis Kenny Ong
Marquis Ong Kay Yong
Marquis Chua Wanyi
Marquis Mike Lim
Marquis Hui San
Marquis Guo Zijun, Fion
C.Marquis Emannuel Low
___________________________________________________________________________

OK.............. I add in for you Laughing The list is getting longer. Any more?

Life2BfUn SG

Yes, under Marquis Wanyi's group- The shortly Marquis Lim Sisters, Christine Lim & Fiona Lim (and their bro is a Count).
Nelson consider a not that newly "M" who dun go around look for people??? Rolling Eyes

ForsakenBeing SG

This looks like name listing isnt it?

list those ppl if u have evidence that they did something wrong la..

not list for the fun of listing lei...

lol...

joachim_peiper SG

whoa so we have come to the stage of naming people... seems like making a "hit-list" of targets to get rid off Smile

just to share abit with the forumers... I have worked closely with many of the individuals on that list... and i can frankly say that most of those people are decent and honest chaps... their only sin is that thay are just too misguided to see the truth... or choose not to see the truth..

the real culprits are the dukes... these are the guys who have been in bel'air for many years... they know how to play this game of manipulating people for their own gains... if not how can they can survive in MLM for so many years?
to them, MLM is all about getting people to join by investing large sums of $$$, thus ensuring that they themselves earn high comissions. Then when these ppl left, like me and some of the forumers, they will just move on to search for new victims... Sad to say, some of their so-called "generals" may choose to follow them on this evil path, mainly bcos they have mostly quitted their jobs, or bought big cars, and have no way out except continue to con people..

most of the marquis on that namelist belong to this category... a few also came from decent families (meaning they themselves don't have to support family, parents still working), so they can afford not to get a proper job, and continue to stay in bel'air, and try to produce "miracles" (Pui!)

so what we have is a vicious cycle of conmen continue to con new victims... and along the way, some of the victims join the conmen as well... So sad!

joachim_peiper SG

Evil or Very Mad

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