Bel' Air

last SG · 2006-03-24T14:29:35+00:00

anyone knows George Lim from FGN personally?

bangkokboy SG

Dear foody,

First I must say that you are a very insensitive fool. Do you think that people like to get into debts and ruin their own life? Do you? What the heck give you the right to say that? I also have my investments and whatnot, does that make me knowledgable?

Infact what got me into this is not so much on greed but my naiveness. I never thought that there are such evil bast**ds in the world that would not think twice about cheating people of their money. You think I would love to lose my life savings? For your info again, like you I also do invest in CPF and it is growing at a healthier rate than yours.

Once again please do not condemn others without knowing the whole fact. Do you know how many businessmen lost everything in the 97 asia crisis. Do you think they want that? Can you call them idiots for doing business since it is so "risky"? Likewise I thought that Belair was an legitimate business. Come on what could go wrong?!?!?!?!?? IT"S THE BLOODY SPONSER FOR NATIONAL DAY PARADE FOR GOD SAKE!!!!!!!!!!

Please think twice before posting like you did... I don't like to flame others but I DO NOT AGREE WITH WHAT YOU SAID.

Regards...

foody SG

97, I know better then anyone. My father lost his renovation business. So dun talk to me abt tat. Abt Biz I am oso runing my owe biz now. For biz there are always some calculated risk. So if my biz fail I will not blame anybody. Is just I did not run my biz proply.

But for MLM did u think twice when u abt to pay tat $12K. Do you think ur friends n family all of them have tat kind of $ to joint u.

I dun think I need to be sensitive, I jz want to let ppl know tat. If u fail in something dun blame the whole world for tat. Since its over, lets move on, dun cry over spilled milk.

If you really think this ppl is cheating ur hard earn money go report to police. These no use tlk abt it here.

Give you another idear how to let more ppl know. I can introduce you to a reporter from wan bao. He will be very interested to publish all of ur story.

kokov SG

Hi all, I am an avid forum reader and have been following this thread for a while. It is really saddening to see how people have suffered and felt victimised by MLM - Belair.

However, I have decided to make a post here after reading how some of you have refused to admit that it was GREED that has caused all your troubles and problems. If it was not GREED, then I must say it is really your STUPIDITY. I cannot possibly imagine how someone can be so 'naive' to forge out $12k like that. Ask yourself, what was the triggering reason for deciding to join belair in the first place. Easy money? Thinking that you will make huge loads of money easily? Thinking that you will be your own boss? Thinking that your $12k will roll into twice, triple, fourfolds etc.?? This is not called naivety. This is simply greed.

If you say you simply join belair because you want to earn a living and provide for your family. Why didn't you just find a down-to-earth job and earn a stable income monthly?

You have landed in this bleeding shit yourself. Pick yourself up and face the music. When you point fingers at others whinning about hw you were victimised, please also reflect and think whether you were too greedy in the beginning. If you still do not believe that greed is the root to your problem, you will always always be a sore loser and fall into a similar trap in the future.

Dr_Why SG

For the beginners, new birds, 1st time posting... pls TAKE NOTE: THis forum is for us, ex-belairan to share our experience and to WARN the public here not to fall into the evil scheme of those bas*** out there!

I dun think u have to right to use stupidity to describe us here. Yes, we might have fall into the scheme, but we have also realized that we have made tat mistake. Thats' why we are moving on. But how?

We encourage those who are still in debts to get out from it, we PREVENT public from falling into the same trap as us. IF we dun... more victims will be in trouble!

Everyone make mistakes. Its ok to make mistakes. If those who make mistakes are called stupid, den kokov, i believe, u must have been veri dumb. (no offences). but when u use the word stupidity, pls think again. Pls care for how others feel.

i tell u wats stupidity, stupidity is a word meant for someone who knows nuts abt the biz, know nuts abt how it feels like to be in huge debts, know nuts abt what we kind of hell we have gone thru and come here trying to act as if he's veri successful n trying to be a "upline" by doing all the scolding.

Seriously, if u r here meant to use vulgerines or meant to quarrel, here is not the place. NTI is more suitable for u.

kokov SG

nope, read my post again. How many times have I used the word GREED?

Simply put, I have meant to say that it is GREED that have led people into Belair because I don't believe people can be that stupid.

Understand?

Pay It Forward SG

Dear bangkokboy u r here to cause awareness to the public , so others will not fall into the CUTTING COUNT TRAP
Whatever it is GREEDY / NAVIE / STUPID let it be .
Just remember why you are here , to tell your story n providing other info to the public to cause awareness .
So that another POOR SOUL who is GREEDY / NAVIE / STUPID will not be so GREEDY n NAVIE n STUPID to fall into it

So foody n kokov thanks for your post .
Hey , foody n kokov why dun u start your own thread n put your view there .
I believe we have enough ppl here who can give good advice to the forumers who has fallen into the trap on their own accord plus some INFLUENCE / PRESSURE TACTICS from those so called bel-air-rens .
Forumer Past Tense too highlighted some very good pointers .

SO either u r a stupid Fcuk or Idoit or (KIAM GAN)........ to continue ..........(oh pls this is not a challenge)

Pls read with heart after this sentence they maybe u will not post what u hv post.

Y am i still sharing my experince because Paying It Forward is not about 1 day,1wk ,1mth, 1 yr . I will be here to refresh my experince hoping that there will be 1 soul less to work extra1,2,3 jobs for 2,3,4,5,6,7,8,years to paid back his debt .
So pls all forumers pls pls do refresh your experience weekly ,monthly(some of them who did not JOIN after reading the forum i could feel their sense of relieve n happynessssssss) I just hope someone can hear our voices. Voices of victims.
Our friends have left us because of us joining bel`air, our love ones has quarrel with us because of bel`air - leading to some have even broken up, our family has torn apart because of bel`air.

We had cut counts...............

WE ARE DESPERATE FOR HELP!

media corp? wan pao? strait times? new paper? or any Parliament members?????? can help

Forumers are just relating their experience n including other info to cause awareness to saved another SOUL.
(Pls help to cause awareness by spreading this msg- Pay It Forward)www.sgforums.com >look for navigation >Top Forums > scroll dowm look for MLM n look for bel'air)
What i did was sending msgssssssss -- HP , email , msn, Posters , notice board etc....

Post By A GREEDY / NAVIE / STUPID forumers called Pay It forward
I feel 'Gan Si lan Song' when another Soul who is NORMAL / GREEDY / NAVIE / STUPID whatever , does not fall into this so call BIZ

Pay It Forward SG

Aiya Dr_Why no angry lah

stupid stupid lor

let him call u / me what he wants lor

Idea THis forum is for us, ex-belairan to share our experience and to WARN the public here not to fall into the evil scheme of those bas*** out there! (anyone got belair experience to share also can hor)

He no understand mah

So either he a stupid Fcuk or Idoit or (KIAM GAN)........ to continue ..........(oh pls this is not a challenge)

Post By A GREEDY / NAVIE / STUPID forumers called Pay It forward

ellen27 SG

Hey that was a long thread i see. Anyway I jus went for the seminar for Bel'Air at commonwealth last thursday.

Lots of enthusiasm but you don't see the true-self of people. I see all of them wearing masks and saying that they are doing a lucrative business which i tot if money is so good would you ever share your money with me?

Anyway, I went inside the room and was irritated by the overwhelming (not nice at all) smell. Even felt dizzy so i thought how could i ever had the passion to sell such things cos the speaker said you need to be passionate about your products.

Then i realize everybody there dressed in suit was carrying one of those burner! thats how the smell follows me everywhere!

Jus an advice to weak minded people - Be strong if there is any opportunities, it won't be shouting at you to say: Come Come I am a GOOD Opportunity!

fganti SG

Hi

To all who are not ex-beiairan and had post in this forum, nice to meet you all Wink

I agreed that it maybe greed or we are stupid to throw in 12k or more into the useless MLM biz. Or maybe I should say we trust the very person who introduce ask the biz (family, relatives, gf/bf & best friends).

I agree with all, that the only way now is get on with our life, find a job and slowly return the debt. Smile

Who to blame on the decision we made right??? Everyone know that all human beings easily fall into the 7 SINs. Don't you all agree that??? I believe no matter who, you or I will once in a while fall into the trap.

If who ever don't agree and think they won't fall into the 7 SINs, then i think that he/she is a SAINT.

We went thur the bad experince in BEL'AIR/AAA/FGN, when we came to this forum we do get carried away in our posting.

But I believe the utimate objective for everyone here is to share with the public what BEL'AIR/AAA/FGN are really doing.

For those who are not ex-beiairan and have been following this forums, maybe you all can help us by spreading the fact about BEL'AIR/AAA/FGN to the people around you. (Just in case they become the next victims)

With this I would like to give special THANK to TIB744U!!! Wink Wink Wink

This is what TIB744U have been doing spreading the information.

So CHEERS to everyone.

TIB744U SG

Hey there everyone.

Let me give me two cents worth of thoughts here.

What's been done wrong has been done. No use rubbing salt into their wounds when they've already been so heavily in debts. Do you think that by doing so, it'll bring back the money that they've lost? Instead, we should give them our moral support so that they will have the courage to move on from here. Jiayou me friends.

What we should do now is to spread the message around about BEL'AIR. No doubt that some people might've doubts about what we spread because it's somewhat of 'good reputation' with themselves being a NDP sponsor and their propaganda (Me apologies, I dont know how to spell this word) about network marketing online in their global website.

Meanwhile, I'm still spreading around me words about BEL'AIR so do keep it up. It matters that the truth be heard and justice be brought to them soon.

kokov SG

Hi all, just like to clarify that I am not here to challenge or attack anyone. I am aware that this forum is for the benefit of educating the public of the perils of MLM or belair specifically. I am definitely not a fan of MLM or belair. In fact, I have been asking and sending links to many of my friends and relatives who are still in the belair circle to view these forum postings as I really hope that they can get out as soon as possible.

However, the reason why I made that posting was that if you want people to believe in what you said, you have to be 100% truthful (which I believe some of you are not and are still acting ????). To refuse that GREED is not a reason for joining MLM is simply lame. (Note: I applaud those who dare to admit graciously.these are the people who will be able to pick themselves up and move forward.)

If we want to help those who are still blinded, we need to show them that this forum is impartial and is not a biased platform where you can only find whiners and losers.

hang_man SG

hey guys, lets not lost focus here. let ppl say what they say. dont be distracted by the 'nosies'

we are here to share our experiences, to create awareness abt bel'air, AAA, fgn etc. we are here to share to prevent others frm becoming victims like ourselves.

so please continue the sharings as ppl are still gg down to commonwealth, boon keng to explore the biz. they are at risk at being cheated of their money, time and trust.

lets get the ball rolling! again!

bangkokboy SG

If you are not here to attack anyone I suggest that you use kinder words. The way you structure your sentences are a direct attack on people's feeling. Pls consider how we feel now ok?!?!?!

But anyway Pay it forward is right... we should let more people know about this. Actually, not only BA, I've heard that some MLM companies are adopting BA's system and encouraging their "BUSINESS ASSOCIATES" to invest more into the business so they can be promoted faster.

PLEASE DON'T MAKE THE SAME MISTAKE AS ME AS TO BUY YOUR WAY UP!!! Take it slow and any MLM that requires frontloading is not advisable.

Please bear in mind that the 5 figure incomes are all real, but the fact is that whole of that 5-figure income is used to RETURN DEBTS incurred!!!! Infact many of them are saddled with debts of more than $40k to earn that measly $13k.

- FOR THOSE STILL IN AAA, FGN PLEASE WAKE UP. YOU ARE NOT A LOSER IF YOU REALISE YOUR MISTAKE NOW.... I JUST HOPE THAT YOU GUYS WILL MOVE ON TOO... ALL IS NOT LOST

Pay It Forward SG

Post ed by kokov 07 November 2006 · 11:18 AM

If we want to help those who are still blinded, we need to show them that this forum is impartial and is not a biased platform where you can only find whiners and losers.

That y i say u come here to be ask FCUK or Kiam Gan .

Sorri Hor hang_man i cannot tahan liao

The rest of new or old forumer hor pls continue must listen to what hangman posted

fganti , u only give special THANK to TIB744U!!! i also doing spreading the information leh , say thank also to me leh

joachim_peiper SG

All right ppl lets all calm down... don't forget the REAL purpose of this forum:

1) for victims, ex-belairians to share their experience

2) for new comers to know that such evil actually existed in this world

and finally

3) SPREAD THE WORD. THE WORLD MUST KNOW.

i muz confess that for me, it was GREED and PRIDE who got me into the whole mess... i got a decent (but stagnant) career, some savings, but i wanted more.. its not wrong... i just want to be better than others.. yes it was GREED, i want to have more... Yes it was PRIDE.. i want to be more successful and less ordinary.. is that wrong? i am only human.. i also have weakness.. for me my weakness blinded me to the truth...

but hey everyone is entitled to their own opinion... so no rights or wrongs... just share and move on.. .

so lets not flame each other here... save your energy for the real bad guys.. they are still out there, getting fatter while their downlines get thinner... now they even have the cheek to threaten legal actions!

when legal proceedings does take place, we shall see who can tahan the negative publicity... PUI!!

SavedSoul SG

Well said! Anyway greed did play a major part in how i ended up in Belair. But the wordplay and tactics used by them is why most of us "trusted" them. At that time, my uni fren introduced me to it. She alredi brought in several frens who I personally know as well. I was thinking, "hey, my frens are here, they said they're doing well. Can earn money etc etc... maybe I can be like them too, make money together. They're my frens, i know them, i trust them"

In actual fact the words that come out of their mouth is put in place by the Marquis and Duke above. There are cases where:
Their sister bring them in and the join in... cos it's his/her sister.
Their son/daughter bring the mother in... cos it's her own flesh and blood
Have u ever thought tat ur will sis/bro/son/daughter bring u to die? No!

Their ex-colleagues bring them in... cos they had working relationship before, altho not as strong as above 2 pts but it does happen as wat I observed.

The Dukes and Marquis are well aware tat when people trust each other they tend to follow or listen to wat their fren/mother/brother/sister said... who else to "trust" but ur own flesh and blood? Who else to trust but ur "frens" whom u've known for yrs?
Something for all of u to think about... there's more to GREED here... it's just barely scratching the surface of complex human interactions.

Oya... about reporting to police/authority I've been waiting until now to hear something from CAD... still no reply on whether any action at all to be taken... I guess the "authorities" are just goin to sit and wait until something big happens...

Originally posted by joachim_peiper:
All right ppl lets all calm down... don't forget the [b]REAL purpose of this forum:

1) for victims, ex-belairians to share their experience

2) for new comers to know that such evil actually existed in this world

and finally

3) SPREAD THE WORD. THE WORLD MUST KNOW.

i muz confess that for me, it was GREED and PRIDE who got me into the whole mess... i got a decent (but stagnant) career, some savings, but i wanted more.. its not wrong... i just want to be better than others.. yes it was GREED, i want to have more... Yes it was PRIDE.. i want to be more successful and less ordinary.. is that wrong? i am only human.. i also have weakness.. for me my weakness blinded me to the truth...

but hey everyone is entitled to their own opinion... so no rights or wrongs... just share and move on.. .

so lets not flame each other here... save your energy for the real bad guys.. they are still out there, getting fatter while their downlines get thinner... now they even have the cheek to threaten legal actions!

when legal proceedings does take place, we shall see who can tahan the negative publicity... PUI!!
[/b]

Pay It Forward SG

Haloo everybody goooooods news

1.)I will be printing copies of

Dear All,
For those who are approached to do Belair MLM , please go to the undermentioned web address for Pros N Cons . The $money$ is yours , it is always better to evaluate 3 to 4 times before jumping into it .
People who join and left are label as GREEDY / NAVIE / STUPID

www.sgforums.com >look for navigation >Top Forums > scroll dowm look for MLM n look for bel'air

After that if you find this information useful :-
Pls help to cause awareness by spreading this msg(web site) to all your loved ones / friends

Thank You very much

I am going to paste it on notice boards to cause awareness .

So anybody who wish to help can Copy Exaclty n Print n Paste too ( I be Hero ' Si Bei Song Ah ' )

Anybody can got better version let me know k , send to my email also can .

fallen_souL SG

i suggest printing phamlets, then when their prospect leaves, hand those phamlets out to them, telling them to visit this website to get a clearer picture of the empty promises and lies.

Pay It Forward SG

Dear SavedSoul from your post :-
'Oya... about reporting to police/authority I've been waiting until now to hear something from CAD... still no reply on whether any action at all to be taken... I guess the "authorities" are just goin to sit and wait until something big happens...'

I believe the authorities is waiting for the right moments.

I help to expedite it , by pasting etc ... (any way that can cause awareness)hoping some legal proceedings will be directed at me .

Y am i still sharing my experince because Paying It Forward is not about 1 day,1wk ,1mth, 1 yr . I will be here to refresh my experince hoping that there will be 1 soul less to work extra1,2,3 jobs for 2,3,4,5,6,7,8,years to paid back his debt .
So pls all forumers pls pls do refresh your experience weekly ,monthly(some of them who did not JOIN after reading the forum i could feel their sense of relieve n happynessssssss)
I just hope someone can hear our voices. Voices of victims.
Our friends have left us because of us joining bel`air, our love ones has quarrel with us because of bel`air - leading to some have even broken up, our family has torn apart because of bel`air.

We had cut counts...............

WE ARE DESPERATE FOR HELP!

media corp? wan pao? strait times? new paper? or any Parliament members?????? can help
Forumers are just relating their experience n including other info to cause awareness to saved another SOUL.
(Pls help to cause awareness by spreading this msg- Pay It Forward)www.sgforums.com >look for navigation >Top Forums > scroll dowm look for MLM n look for bel'air)
What i did was sending msgssssssss -- HP , email , msn, Posters , notice board etc....

fganti SG

SORRY !!! PAY IT FORWARD Laughing

I would like to give special thank to all who are spreading the TRUE FACT on BEL'AIR/AAA/FGN. Wink Wink Wink

If we continue to share a experience here we will stop the evil doers.

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Think the company is badly sit by the TRUE FACT already!!!

Saturday just went to Commonwealth to get my stock out. When I went to level 2 to see see, I saw that the no of Duke offices have been reduce. (dont think they are renovating level 2 so should be cutting down on rental )

Firstly, the weekly OPP is reduce from 2 to 1 (every Thursday only).
Now, the Duke offices had reduced.

I think the company must have run into some cashflow problem.

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