Bel' Air

last SG · 2006-03-24T14:29:35+00:00

anyone knows George Lim from FGN personally?

bangkokboy SG

Yes unfortunately the dukes are great liars. All the powerpoint presentations showing the cars and the incomes are real no doubt... BUT WHAT PISSES ME is that they don't tell you that those $13k income earners are all those doing 1+5.

Let me explain. By recruiting one poor soul, you will get $2700 as commissions from the company. The dukes strategy is this:

1. New guys joins company, manages to recruit 1 friend/family member with help of the lying dukes (if he manage to, majority failed to find even 1).

2. New guy is very happy to have result! Wah $2700 leh!

3. Duke looks at new guy and says,"To succeed in this business, you must trust in your uplines." Ask new guy to discuss something that can "help" new guy.

4. Sits new guy down together with all the marquis and C.marquis (peer pressure) and starts talking about 1+5.

By now if the new guy chickens out, he WILL NOT get any support from the dukes and his peers. Having no choice, the new guy will find do the 1+5 using money meant for marriage, parent's funeral, sister's education, credit card...

Interestingly, the duke and marquis agree to help the new guy with 1 position, meaning they will fork out their own money to help the new guy. Great isn't it? Nope, not end of story.

1. New guy is now C.marquis with only 1 downline.

2. Meanwhile new guy gets cheque of $13.5k ($2.7k x 5), this time the dukes will ask the new guy to return their loan to him. (Smart to cover their own ase)

3. 6 months later, new guy realises that refund period is over (in my case I wasn't even told there is one). Dukes start ignoring him and concentrates on other newbies, downlines loses confidence. Downline refunds.

4. Whole world crashes on new guy who is now at least $50k poorer. Duke looks for another new guy to do 1+5. Earns his money and cycle repeats.

This is just a quick summary. I've not talked in more detail about the brainwashing, the lying, the ugly behind the scenes info(with insights from an ex-marquis)

The dukes will use you. You are nothing more than a piece of meat. Once they suck you dry to the bones, you are just a heap of bones. Nothing more.

OH I NEARLY FORGOT.

They will tell the whole network that new guy is not suitable for this business. Twisted Evil Infact no one with consience will ever be suitable for this business. It is a game for conman.

Regards,
BKKboy

fallen_souL SG

Who will come into the biz not wanting to succeed? Who will think "i got too much money, take 13 - 14K out to play play?" This is a sad case. Everything is a lie from the start. In fact, even the warm up is where all the lies started. so disgusting. Ppl just keep coming in and falling out. Where is the awareness???

alter_eeg0 SG

Originally posted by bangkokboy:
Yes unfortunately the dukes are great liars. All the powerpoint presentations showing the cars and the incomes are real no doubt... BUT WHAT PISSES ME is that they don't tell you that those $13k income earners are all those doing 1+5.

Let me explain. By recruiting one poor soul, you will get $2700 as commissions from the company. The dukes strategy is this:

[b]1. New guys joins company, manages to recruit 1 friend/family member with help of the lying dukes (if he manage to, majority failed to find even 1).

2. New guy is very happy to have result! Wah $2700 leh!

3. Duke looks at new guy and says,"To succeed in this business, you must trust in your uplines." Ask new guy to discuss something that can "help" new guy.

4. Sits new guy down together with all the marquis and C.marquis (peer pressure) and starts talking about 1+5.

By now if the new guy chickens out, he WILL NOT get any support from the dukes and his peers. Having no choice, the new guy will find do the 1+5 using money meant for marriage, parent's funeral, sister's education, credit card...

Interestingly, the duke and marquis agree to help the new guy with 1 position, meaning they will fork out their own money to help the new guy. Great isn't it? Nope, not end of story.

1. New guy is now C.marquis with only 1 downline.

2. Meanwhile new guy gets cheque of $13.5k ($2.7k x 5), this time the dukes will ask the new guy to return their loan to him. (Smart to cover their own ase)

3. 6 months later, new guy realises that refund period is over (in my case I wasn't even told there is one). Dukes start ignoring him and concentrates on other newbies, downlines loses confidence. Downline refunds.

4. Whole world crashes on new guy who is now at least $50k poorer. Duke looks for another new guy to do 1+5. Earns his money and cycle repeats.

This is just a quick summary. I've not talked in more detail about the brainwashing, the lying, the ugly behind the scenes info(with insights from an ex-marquis)

The dukes will use you. You are nothing more than a piece of meat. Once they suck you dry to the bones, you are just a heap of bones. Nothing more.

OH I NEARLY FORGOT.

They will tell the whole network that new guy is not suitable for this business. Twisted Evil Infact no one with consience will ever be suitable for this business. It is a game for conman.

Regards,
BKKboy
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This is an important msg!!!!
The refund period was reduce 6 mths to 3 mths........ seen Jan 06....

Ya after sucking everyone dry just the same old thing.. mindset not correct...

bangkokboy SG

OMG. So it's 3 months now... The shocking thing is that they don't tell you about the refund period. Infact, you are not even assured of getting the full 90% when you do a refund. It depends on whether your uplines pay up or not.

dokono SG

This is sad. The heavy rain for the past few days is for this.

doko

bangkokboy SG

Not sure about the rain, but it sure is cold here in Bangkok... weird.

Dr_Why SG

didnt' they said that time that if Singapore is doing well, That Kennetth Huang gonna build a Bel`Air building in Singapore? Up Till now... WHERE IS IT?

n where is this HUang? SO long never come singapore liaoz... only come once a year... SIngapore no hope liaoz lar.... there are so much better MLM companies outside.... so much better UPLINES n honest UPLINES outside.... AT LEAST Better than those in FGN

k2wanviet SG

Orchard Bel-Air condominium but it does not belong to him. Very Happy He is just dreaming.

Honest uplines? I doubt.

fganti SG

The entire world is no making much sales lor... Think taiwan Bel'Air Building no money to continue with the work lor!!!!!! lol

China think throw in to much money to build the manufacturing plants... work also half way done lor.....

FGN sounded so great but all the sale fig are bomb by Ronald lor.... all not accurate lor......

I tought in the FGN Orientation package Chris going to challenge Arch Duke..... end of the year... HELLO 2006 ending in 2 weeks time lor.....

Just another BIG LIE by the VERY "RESPECTABLE" DUKE lor.........

bangkokboy SG

Say now we are not getting much updates on BA, especially AAA and FGN. Anyone got any updates?

past tense SG

Specially written to those who DO NOT HAVE A CORRECT IDEA on the goods refund clause.

In the marketing seminar, most speakers would have mentioned something about the
30 days- 100% refund;
90 days- 90% refund (10% will be used as the administration costs).

Now, lets evaluate this together.............

What exactly happens during this process?

When one decides to refund all the goods to the company, the company will take back ALL the goods and give you a cheque which consists 20% of the amount of your goods(10% as administrative). WHY? Still remember the company 70% payout policy? The rest of the 70% was long ago being distributed to your uplines.

STILL DON'T UNDERSTAND?

Which means the outstanding 70% amuont, you will have to cross your fingers and pray hard that ALL YOUR UPLINES are earning money and thus you will be able to receive the remaining balance. IF NOT, sorry, you will have to chase after this sum of money from each of your uplines PERSONALLY as the stockist WILL NOT HELP YOU with this.

And if this really happens, FORGET ABOUT IT. You do not have to bother to keep pestering them for the money. Simply its all because you are down-on-your-luck and too naive to believe in this policy. And also, to be fair, all these uplines have made a HUGE maintainence for that. Its $5000 bucks if I am not wrong. If we are to blame anyone for these, its gonna be ourselves and the very intelligent Kenneth Wong. He is really right on the strategy this time round.

He is actually able to earn from both sides: the uplines and the newbies.
I really wonder why the people are still in it?

Now people, if you are still coming to a decision whether to join a not, be prepared to be able to afford and lose the capital. And don't blame anyone else because many of us have shared our experiences in here and ITS YOU WHO CHOOSE NOT TO BELIEVE US.

And those who are still considering to do the refund, forget about it. I rather keep the goods and not let KENNETH WONG recycle the stock and use them on another victim. And anyway, since I am only able to get back 20% of what I have invested excluding the promotional items which are strictly no refund.

To those who still in it... I have got nothing to say... You guys are TOO STUBBORN. If you still got the heart, leave the others alone and start living your own life!

alwaysthin SG

Where got so easy to challenge. Look at the Loh sisters how long did they joined Bel'Air ? till now they still hanged on Duke post. Embarassed

Dr_Why SG

seems like a lot of ppl really hate those uplines to the core.... I hope they live a short life man.... to prevent others from getting CHEATED

fganti SG

LOL YA YA!!!!

But think their existance is only to waste the earth resources and to cause social unrest........ Evil or Very Mad

EAT SO FAT but didn't contribute to the society....

mac_kfc SG

may i know wat are the various positions held in bel'air??? like business manager or wat??? Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked

bangkokboy SG

Interestingly, Belair is another name for Satan... in the text of Questions of Bartholomew.

Finally, Bartholomew asks to see Satan, and so a choir of angels drags Belair (a name for Satan) from the depths of hell in chains, the sight of which kills the apostles dead. Jesus immediately brings them back to life and gives Bartholomew control over Satan. Bartholomew asks Satan how he came to be the enemy and other esoteric questions, such as the hierarchy of the angels.

alwaysthin SG

Anyone see his car arrived already? It only left 5 more days. Or wat he said about the car is only his downlines give him the toys car for his christmas present? Razz Razz Razz

fallen_souL SG

It will never arrive.

I had drove past HHH so many times, the no. of cars there are getting lesser, and the place is like a ghost town. Have those losers moved, or they are simply beating flies?

Dr_Why SG

they are ~liars~.. PLEASE DO NOT GET CHEATED!

alwaysthin SG

Then folded a paper car for him. Rolling Eyes

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