Hi,
Chanced upon this thread while looking up some PEO's crap shit
which i got into, not any mentioned in this thread tho.
Just like to share my 2 cents worth.
I've called up MOE and enquire about pte/in-hse dips and the truth
is that MOE neither accredit/recognise nor disregard/deny any pte
dips in SG. The governance of the course contents is still up to
the provider itself, but they are required to be registered with
MOE and info to be provided like the module synopsis and some other
info. However, MOE does not review the cse contents/syllabus/what
cse notes they use/textbooks etc. Like some pri schools which uses
books from publisher A and some from publisher B. In the case of
PEO, the diplomas are usually offered in-hse like SMa, Kaplan, PSB
etc. The real values of the dip lies in which prestigious foreign
unis the schools has tie-up with do gain advanced standing/module
exemptions. Much like a polytechnic's diploma's value lies in it
can gain module exemptions in local uni admissions or overseas
universities, where they deem the dip has met a certain requirement
to be able to go into the 2nd/3rd/final year of studies. Another
scenario is that the pte diplomas are taken from the 1st year of
that certain prestigious uni, and they were allowed to term it as a
diploma on their own. Much like the NAFA concept where you stop at
year 2, you get a dip, you finish year 3, you get a degree, which
is what doodlegal explained.
In Ms Sim's case, SMa's dip is offered in-hse which i believe they
dun send it to ECU for grading/marking as it is offered in hse,
like what i've mentioned above. If you actually go through the
ECu's webby, you would find that none of the modules in the dip are
part of the 16 degree modules if you take up the degree with ECU,
which means that the dip is definitely an in-hse one, so there
shldn't be any ECU logo. Perhaps you've mistaken the degree and the
diploma? Local poly dips also have tie-ups with foreign unis to
gain advance standing/direct entry to 2nd/3rd/final year, but you
don't see any foreign uni's logo on local poly cert. It simply
means that the dip has met the criteria to embark on ECU's degree
program. Also, if you see that on top of the 16 core modules in
ECU's list, there are 8 more minor/elective modules required before
they consider you to have adhered to their degree awarding
standards, thus this dip could have served as a minor/elective
purpose.
IMHO, your degree is not going to be affected as it's coming from
ECU as the dip is most prolly just the minor/elective portion, and
it's listed on APAC's website. However, if you still feel unsafe,
do look up APAC website for other accredited certs to take up or
even go to JCU/NUS where these are confirm recognised in the
psychology industry. Mature candidates(over 21) with relavent
working experiences will also be considered for local polytechnic
admisions tho, do check with them.
Sunshine85: I would just like to point out that based on your
postings, I believe that not resitting for the exams was a mutual
agreement btw the students and the management, as per what the
students wanted. If the students had wanted to resit for the exams
in the first place, you think the management would have stopped
them? What they were trying to achieve is a win-win situation. If
the school demanded the students resit the exams, they also would
make noise, both ways you can't balance both ends of a scale. They
are aware of the backlash too tho. As for the macdonalds part, Ms
sim seems to have viewed it as bribery to shut up,
but....macdonalds and one would agree to shut up? I believe it's a
little too extreme.
Iamvoldermort: Dude, don't be surprised that what she said is
true, as i had lecturers reading off the slides and giving out
templated answers during programming lessons when i was in poly,
and it's end of lesson after he finish transfering the answers to
OHP slides. LOL.
Normkwok: I believe there is some misunderstand here, the list here
you pasted only lists the degree and not the diplomas. With regards
to yr 1 of the studies being converted to a diploma, i believe if
they do that, they would have to school's approval, however, most
don't do that, if you would actually check the actual modules being
offered by the uni itself. In this SMa/ECU's case, the dip's
modules are clearly not part of the year 1 modules. The only
diplomas that have been accredited in SG, by the SPS are the
polytechnic's diplomas and not the pte diplomas, but like i've
mentioned, the real value of the dip lies in which prestigious
overseas uni they can gain admission to. From what i've checked,
the 16 core modules by ECU are offered by SMa, where like i've
mentioned earlier, the diploma probably serves as a fulfilling of
minor/elective purposes to make the student reach the criteria of
being awarded the degree.
Just my 2 cents worth
