Around
this time you were discussing the succession to PM
Lee?
Lee Kuan Yew
had been discussing this since about 1983. At that time, the second
echelon was Tony Tan, S. Dhanabalan, Goh Chok Tong and
myself.
Were
you a candidate for the top job?
I was
considered as a member of the group. At that time, we did not know
who would be the successor to Lee. We finally made the decision to
pick Goh Chok Tong. He agreed on condition that I agreed to be his
number two. So I was the second DPM; he was the first DPM. In 1988,
Lee asked Goh to take over, but he was not ready. He said: two more
years. So two years later, he took the job.
Lee did
not agree with your decision to pick
Goh.
No, he did not
disagree. He said he would leave it to us. His own
first choice was Tony Tan.
Goh Chok Tong
was his second choice.
I was his third
choice because he said
my English was not good
enough.
He said
Dhanabalan was not right because Singapore was
not ready for an Indian prime minister. That upset the Indian
community.
There was quite
a bit of adverse reaction to what he said. But he speaks his mind.
He is the only one who can get away with it.
Personally, you felt Goh was the right
man?
Well, among the
four of us, he was the youngest. Tony Tan said no. I said no. And
he sort of accepted being pushed into the position, on condition
that we stay on to assist him.
Soon
after taking over, Goh called a snap election in 1991 -- but the
PAP's vote slipped and there was talk he would
quit.
Well, we did
discuss about that. But he didn't indicate that he wanted to step
down.
At that
time, you were no. 2 in the executive after PM
Goh.
Yes. Well, no.
2, no. 3, doesn't matter.
So why
run for president?
The elected
presidency was Lee Kuan Yew's initiative. He came out with the idea
way back in '82, '83. After parliament passed the measure in 1991,
I considered it seriously. At that time, after 20 years in
politics, I was thinking of a way to ease myself out, to exit the
political arena. I wrote to the prime minister twice to say that
I'm prepared to go.
You saw
the presidency as a way to do that?
Yes, the unionists egged me
on. They came to see me a couple of times and they suggested that I
take it on. I discussed it with the prime minister, being old
friends, and he gave me his support.
The
well-known oppositionist J.B. Jeyaretnam wanted to run against
you?
Yes, but he was
not allowed to because he did not qualify under the stringent
criteria. Maybe too stringent.
You
were glad Jeyaretnam could not run?
No, it's okay.
I think it would have been more fun.
Some of
your colleagues did not think it was much fun when your only
opponent, a former accountant-general, Chua Kim Yeoh, got so much
support?
Yes, all of
them were quite worried. Some ministers even called me to say: Oh,
we are worried about the outcome. At first, we were quite confident
about getting over 70 percent of the vote.
But there was a
swing of support over to my opponent's side, especially in the
educated class -- civil servants and the Shenton Way
group.
The issue was
whether they wanted a PAP man as president to check on a PAP
government, or whether it would be better to have a neutral
independent like Chua.
That's why they
voted against me because I had the PAP government
support.
I would have
been happier without the PAP's open support.
I think I would
have been better off with just the unionists' support and the
Chinese-educated heartlanders. Without them I would not have been
elected.
http://www.singapore-window.org/sw00/000310a4.htm
Speaking in
Malay, he said politics in Singapore must continue to be inclusive and
multi-racial.
It should not
result in championing the
rights and demands of one group against
another.
The political
contest, he added, must not polarise Singapore society,
especially along racial
and religious lines.
own
first choice was Tony Tan.
he said
my English was not good enough.
He
said Dhanabalan was not right because Singapore was
not ready for an Indian prime
minister.
That
upset the Indian community.