Lee Kuan Yew rejects Wikileaks cable of him attacking Islam

Dalforce 25 SG

Lao Lee is careful not to offend the muslims in Singapore. Sly fox.

Lee Kuan Yew is afraid of two ethnic groups in Singapore, dialect chinese and malays.

These two can pose problems for Lee Kuan Yew. The group he fears the most is the dialect hokkien chinese group. This is probably the real reason why he pushed for anglicisation and suppression policies.

The problem of Islamic terrorism would not be easily extirpated, observed MM Lee.

While Muslims in Southeast Asia were traditionally moderate and tolerant, they had been affected by radicalism emanating from Middle East and the spread of wahhabism from Saudi Arabia.

Singapore's Muslim leaders were rational and educated in English and the GOS kept a limit on madrassah-based education.

Singapore's Muslim leaders were rational and educated in English

GOS kept a limit on madrassah-based education.

For the dialect chinese, limits on chinese schools are not enough.

They must be totally and completely eradicated from Singapore.

The political threat is too great.

I-like-flings(m) SG

jump into kallang river also cannot wash clean lo this time...

alize SG

Lee Kuan Yew's previous remarks on malays and muslims:

I cannot stand his half-assed apology. Even while apologising he can lecture them to continue the trend.

Dalforce 25 SG

I cannot stand his half-assed apology. Even while apologising he can lecture them to continue the trend.

I feel like slapping his cocky face.

nfshp253 SG

This great man shouldn’t apologize or rebut anything along the lines of this accusation because what he said is the truth.

Brain Freeze SG

He should apologise to the chinese medium school students he prosecuted in the past.

the Bear SG

you know what?

fuck him.. he's an impotent old man now...

notice he's been very very quiet lately?

either he's dead already, or the party is enforcing a gag order on him to prevent him from talking more bullshit...

Brain Freeze SG

Cos he threatened the electorate from voting for Worker’s aprty in ajunied GRC.

In the end , ajunied GRC fall.

He know his influence not as big as lastime.

alize SG

you know what?

fuck him.. he's an impotent old man now...

notice he's been very very quiet lately?

either he's dead already, or the party is enforcing a gag order on him to prevent him from talking more bullshit...

That is documented in another leaked cable: how he has stepped in to overshadow LHL, and a gag was suspected when he turned voters off in the 2006 election.

Quote:

10. (C) For PM Lee, the election was an opportunity missed.The PAP could have run on its superior policies, experience,and candidates and eschewed the old-schoolhit-them-when-they-are-down tactics. Its candidates could have asked voters if they wanted to be governed by someone(James Gomez) who didn't even live in Singapore instead oflaunching a phony attack that extended to opening a"criminal" investigation as the defeated candidate was tryingto return home to Sweden. Instead, the PAP's hardball tactics -- vintage Lee Kuan Yew -- cost them some votes andcontradicted the PM's stated interest in a more open society.

11. (C) While the MM's abrasive style may appeal to older "heartland" Singaporeans, it does not work well with younger, better-educated voters. He appeared a cranky and sour oldman and was only a liability to the PAP's campaign. Theextensive reporting in the government-controlled press mayhave backfired for the PAP as voters found the vindictiveness against Chee and his party distasteful and tired of theoverwrought Gomez affaire. The MM's role in the 2006 election may have accelerated Singaporeans' reaching an emotional turning point. Many of the younger voters do notrecall Singapore's early, precarious days. They are less willing to accept the PAP's fundamental premise that opposition and choice lead inexorably to disunity and chaos.

the Bear SG

basically this: we remember what the MIW did for us.. but this does not mean the whole country owes them forever, especially when they are making shit decisions which are obviously self-serving over and over again

the country is much more important than petty things like loyalty to a political party which will not hesitate to sell you down the river for gains.. and is much more important than petty things like gratitude...

they may seem important and may actually be important.. but the country as a whole, the people of the nation, is so very important that it overshadows all these things, and compared to the nation, they are petty and inconsequential

Dalforce 25 SG

Lee Kuan Yew cautions against turning political divide into national divide

SINGAPORE: Singapore's former Minister Mentor Lee Kuan Yew has cautioned Singaporeans from turning the current political divide into a national divide.

Speaking to some 1800 undergraduates at a dialogue held at the Nanyang Technological University, Mr Lee acknowledged that one thing which will change in Singapore, and which has already happened, is the political divide.

He said as long as the political divide does not degenerate into a national divide, it would not have much impact on the growth of the country.

But Mr Lee warned that if the political divide turned into constant bickering, like what is happening between the Democrats and Republicans in the United States, then Singapore will become just "another ordinary country".

Turning to the future, the founding father of modern Singapore stressed that his worry is whether Singaporeans would have the best people in the best jobs.

That is because if Singapore veers away from the meritocratic system which has brought the nation to where it is today, then Mr Lee said the country's performance will drop.

http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/singaporelocalnews/view/1151206/1/.html

mancha SG

Many US and SG politicians are firmly on the government side- secular and in the US, fiercely Republican (check out their previous ambassador to Iraq).

There are Singapore Muslim MPs working hand in hand with the government, their role is to manage the government's image towards the muslim community here.

This is elaborated on in this cable, "Muslim MPs in Singapore" http://wikileaks.org/cable/2005/02/05SINGAPORE312.html

On second reading of the paragraph highlighted.

5. (C) Asked by Rep. Rangel how organised terrorists were internationally. MM Lee responded that orthodox Islam was a powerful force capable of recruiting volunteers for terrorist groups. He noted Singapore's experience in 2001 and 2002 in dealing with Jemaah Islamihah's terrorist plots in Singapore and characterised Islam as a "venomous religion."

Who is this "He noted"? Rep. Rangel or LKY?

Who would most likely "note" Singapore's experience with JI?

If I rewrite that sentence as:

He (Rep Rangel) noted Singapore's experience in 2001 and 2002 in dealing with Jemaah Islamihah's terrorist plots in Singapore and characterised Islam as a "venomous religion."

This would make more sense. Just my 2 cents worth.

Otherwise, the old man's "hard truth" would hit the ceiling fan even if it was in 2005.

the Bear SG

On second reading of the paragraph highlighted.

Who is this "He noted"? Rep. Rangel or LKY?

Who would most likely "note" Singapore's experience with JI?

If I rewrite that sentence as:

He (Rep Rangel) noted Singapore's experience in 2001 and 2002 in dealing with Jemaah Islamihah's terrorist plots in Singapore and characterised Islam as a "venomous religion."

This would make more sense. Just my 2 cents worth.

Otherwise, the old man's "hard truth" would hit the ceiling fan even if it was in 2005.

the way english is usually written and used, "he" is usually the subject of the interview and not the interviewer

lce SG

start suing lo

otherwise whats in the leak is true

mancha SG

the way english is usually written and used, "he" is usually the subject of the interview and not the interviewer

English, but do Americans speak English?

Dalforce 25 SG

English M*****F*****, do you speak it?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPHuE5pDlEs&feature=related

Amitayus48 SG

He was not as brilliant as claimed. He should not place himself between the feud of western power and some extremists of the past from Islam. In fact, what he can do is to continue his struggle of nurturinh singapore and the world through kindness and love in all. In fact, he should embrace amitabha recitation (hahahaha) for supremeness harmony in him.

the Bear SG

the only thing philosophy he believes is in was written by Machiavelli

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