Former Prime Minister Tun Dr Mahathir Mohamad said today
he believes Singapore Minister Mentor Lee Kuan Yew
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'All these leaked cables are just somebody's opinions. Whether they
are true or not, is anyone's guess.'
Wikileaks:
Anwar walked into sex trap, says Kuan Yew
Rocky: Where did this
intelligence come from? Singapore spies? Or Malaysia's Special
Branch? If Anwar Ibrahim was set up, it was likely to have been the
Special Branch. Now if they did this, surely there will be a video,
like in the case of MCA chief Dr Chua Soi Lek.
Chua's case was done by amateurs. Surely our SBs have all the right
tools to do a professional job. And if they have the video, they
would have leaked it. So take this 'Singapore leak' with a pinch of
salt.
Albert: Why are the
media, including Malaysiakini, focussing on
Anwar's sodomy case as if what was reported by Wikileaks is really
the truth and Anwar is expected to respond? Let the on-going court
case decides. The onus is for the prosecution to prove the case. If
Anwar is found guilty, so be it.
And I found it rather surprising that not much attention was
focussed on other reported items from Wikileaks which are in fact
more damaging to the country. That Malaysia was described as being
on a "dangerous" decline fuelled by "incompetent politicians"; that
a "distinct possibility of racial conflict" could see ethnic
Chinese "flee" Malaysia and "overwhelm" Singapore; and that former
PM Dr Mahathir Mohomad had been 'throwing stones' at his
replacement Abdullah Ahmad Badawi.
If Anwar is expected to respond, then the media should also ask PM
Najib Razak and Mahathir to do the same.
Lim Chong
Leong: Singapore Minister Mentor Lee Kuan Yew is not
a witness in the case. His conclusion, as told to the Australians,
has no basis or supported by evidence. The court so far has been a
farce of hiding crucial evidence and witnesses refusing to refer to
their notes.
High Court judge Mohamad Zabidin Mohd Diah has shown extreme bias
by threatening the defence with contempt when lawyer Karpal Singh
was only preforming his duty to defend the accused.
Lee Kuan Yew's hunch, which is all that it is, bears no impact to
an intelligent person. If this news is intended to confuse and
influence the right-thinking members of society, it would have
failed miserably.
Rolls-Royce: The
intelligence services always think they are more intelligent than
others. Honestly, how much of the so-called leaked information are
actually hunches that most of us have already had anyway?
Singapore talking bad about Malaysia, US talking bad about North
Korea and Burma, Pakistan or Malaysia talking bad about Israel or
Singapore, etc. These are to be expected. If we think these are
great enlightenments, then we are the idiots.
Anyway, I don't even care whether Anwar was really involved or not.
Do you? What difference does it make to the cause we are fighting
for? Between a 'sodomist' and a plunderer, a corrupt, a pilferer
and an abuser, which do you prefer?
Swipenter: So they are
saying that Anwar's basic instincts got the better of his judgment.
Did he or didn't he do it? Why are they withholding vital
information from the defence team then?
Cala: Do
not trust Lee Kuan Yew that fast. Whether it was a set-up or
otherwise, by now it is already academic. Other events have
overtaken it, which points to the falsification of allegations made
against Anwar:
i) Why did Mohd Saiful Bukhari Azlan behave the way he
did?
ii) Why he did not pass motion for two or three days?
iii) Why did the doctor who examined him find nothing inside
Saiful's rectum (which means Saiful was lying about not passing
motion)?
iv) Why did the judge behave the way he was if indeed solid
evidence was in store?
Lee Kuan Yew may be a respectable statesman, but remember he is
also a lawyer. One only has to read one of his two books to see how
he argued his way out of trouble, such as how he claimed the fault
was on Tunku Abdul Rahman that caused Singapore's ouster.
Apparently it is an acceptable practice that one of the objectives
of setting up an embassy in a foreign country is to collect
information, data, building networks, etc, in order to protect your
interest. Call it in any name; it is an exercise of espionage
alright.
Victor
Johan: If the sodomy incident was an engineered work,
how come Saiful appeared at Anwar's house the day after the said
'set-up' date, and it took Saiful days later to get himself
medically checked? If this was all a 'set up', then why did they
not plan and orchestrate so that the pitiful Saiful not have to
suffer by not going to the toilet for so many days?
Lesungbatu: In this
present days, anal sex is common in every corner of the world. Call
it whatever you may, but I won't be prejudice towards others'
preferences.
If Umno/BN says that carnal sex is condemned in Malaysia as Islam
is the official religion, how about corruption? Murder? Stealing
and abusing rakyat's money? Those are very much condemned in
Islam.
As a Muslim PM, Najib and his goons who are Muslims should also
practice Islam teachings in their administration, i.e honesty,
integrity, truthfulness, sincerity, etc. Don't be selective and
pick only on the opposition. Look at yourself in the mirror before
talking about others.
[email protected]: Of course
to Anwar's hardcore supporters there is nothing wrong in anal sex.
Forget that he is a Muslim, it's then easier to accept it as
okay.
Singa Pura Pura: How
about murder? Ain't that really the one to fuss about? Murder most
foul, one that is infinitely more culpable and heinous than
someone's supposed phallic misadventure. And yet we haven't even
gotten to the bottom of the one that counts the most.
Teoh Beng Hock steps into an agency of the state at an unearthly
hour and literally drops dead at the doorstep of the government in
power. He was to register his marriage the next day and yet he
decided to take his own life?
Altantuya Shaariibuu came to Malaysia and was blown to bits. The
whole country and the world at large is to believe that two
trolling cops did it all on their very own for their very own
reasons. But their faces have never been seen.
Ferdtan: According to
WikiLeaks, Australian and Singapore intelligence communicated to US
that Anwar's sodomy was set up by his political enemies and that
"he probably knew about it, but walked into it".
The question most people would like to ask: if Anwar knew it was a
trap, then why did he deliberately walk into it? Was he that
stupid? Or did he have suicidal tendencies? Once bitten, he should
be twice shy. Didn't he suffer enough the first time in his sodomy
charge under Mahathir that he would fall into the same
trap?
It was allegedly pointed out by the intelligence that it was a
set-up operation - then how come it was so amateurish done with no
real evidence to show. No photos, no videos (such as Chua Sok Lek's
sexual tryst in a hotel room) and no witnesses - none.
Each country has their own self interest to serve - Australia under
Kevin Rudd and Singapore under indirect rule of Lee Kuan Yew, most
probably tried to pull a 'fast one' on Uncle Sam, whatever the
reasons.
Pemerhati: The US
attacked Iraq after Colin Powell proved to the world with all the
photographic and other intelligence information that it had weapons
of mass destruction. After defeating and occupying Iraq they did
not find any WMD and thus showed to the world how inaccurate and
unreliable the intelligence from the world's most technologically
advanced country was.
Now in Anwar's case, Singapore's information is based on some
'technical intelligence' in 2008, which The Sun-Herald said is
likely to relate to intercepted communications.
Subsequent revelations in 2010, such as the bizarre behaviour of
the prosecution, doctors and the judge in not revealing all the
necessary information to Anwar's defence team indicates that there
is no clinical or other evidence for the sodomy
allegation.
The intelligence people probably correctly assessed in 2008 that it
was a set-up job by BN but like the US blunder on Iraq, they have
most probably erred on the sodomy allegation.
Proarte: Let us see
the proof. What is the nature of this 'technical intelligence'? Do
they have video recordings? Why not 'WikiLeak' it onto the
Internet? Why 'Wikileak' only innuendos? It is to Singapore's
advantage to have Malaysia ruled by corrupt incompetents. Singapore
benefits from non-Malay brain drain. They want it to continue. They
do not want to see a vibrant democracy in Malaysia.
Let us see a photo of Anwar hugging or kissing Saiful then I may be
convinced of the other allegations. Is it so hard for Singapore SB
or Malaysian SB to show us these simple pieces of corroborating
evidence? It looks like Singapore is determined to see the
opposition in Malaysia flounder.
Wira: Now ask yourself
this. If the source is from the Malaysian police, would you believe
the story?
FairMind: What is the
big fuss about what Lee Kuan Yew said privately behind someone's
back? It happens all the time even in offices, between neighbours
and even among small children. If you hear what Mahathir said about
Lee Kuan Yew behind his back privately, your jaw might
dropped.
Realistic: It's just
like in the US where former president George W Bush was
misinformed, or deliberately misinformed, about the existence of
weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. Lee's intelligence source may
not be right or was deliberately fed with that
misinformation.
All these leaked cables are just somebody's opinions. Whether they
are true or not, is anyone's guess.
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