Fight or not - Robbery

last SG · 2013-03-24T17:36:25+00:00

I come into this world empty handed , i'll also go out of this world empty handed .So let's fight !!!I shall not give up without a fight . I in for fighting...

hammerhammer8888 SG

I not encourage TD to fight. I only says if confident then go for it. If not just pay and ask them fuck off. Anyway money can earn right? Life only have one, but for me I will not go down without a fight.

Hpgin SG

from what i understand from the police, this is their modus operandi, they rob taxi drivers, locations they change change about one. they are very experienced, only steal money, never take handphone, cos they know sometimes handphone got install tracking software.

my suggestion is if at night wee hours, got 2 youngish adults, a certain race, suspicious looking, better just dun pick them up.

scared people complain?? scared LTA drink kopi?? excuses alot lar, need to pee pee have to rush to toilet, didnt see passenger too dark, assess road situation dangerous unable to stop, have to cut 2 lanes assess too dangerous to stop, 101 excuses.

like poolman say, passenger is for us to decide to pick up, go where we want to go, not for them to control us.

Hpgin SG

when i kena this incident, my mind is blank cos i was caught by surprise. they ask for what i just give them, lucky i put some of the 50 dollar notes in a small pocket in my pants so i didnt lose everything, they took the rest, about 300 plus in all ba.

i was very angry when i was being robbed, but i never thought of fighting them off cos 2 of them, and pen knife at my throat. yes, i was scared, scared i would get hurt, both angry and scared, heart beating like hell.

after the incident, on hindsight i was damm lucky, i only lost some money, no injuries. if had retaliated, surely at least kena some injuries, will not be able to drive for a few days at least loss of income surely more than 300. still have to pay rental you know!

so my advice is just comply, they only after money, your life is more valuable than that few hundred bux. Just make sure you remember their face and other details to help the police catch them.

Rednano SG

With the large number of taxis in Singapore, taxi drivers help the Police by using their radio sets to report crime occurrences / traffic accidents on our roads through their operators to the Police.

Taxi drivers have taken crime prevention measures so that they do not become a victim of crime.

We have useful information and advice for taxi drivers on crime prevention and traffic matters. Taxi drivers are not allowed to choose their passengers, they could be vulnerable as victims of crime. Thus this information will serve to remind all taxi drivers on the various crime prevention measures to adopt and how to report crime occurrences. There are also advice on what to do in the case of accidents and driving tips to enlighten and ensure a peaceful and safer drive for all.

Robbery and theft

To deter robbery and theft from your vehicle:

Do not carry too much valuables (eg. jewellery, expensive watches) and money with you when you are on the job.

Bring along your valuables and cash when you leave your vehicle.

Deposit part of your money at home or in the bank if you have accumulated a large sum of it.

Keep only a small amount of money as change.

Crime Prevention Tips

Theft of your vehicle...

Minimise your Risk Against Robbery:

Do not wear expensive jewellery / watches and avoid carrying large amounts of cash with you when you start work.

If possible, deposit part of your cash at home or in the bank when you have accumulated a substantial amount of takings from passengers. Keep only a small amount of cash as change.

Be wary of passengers who are indecisive about their destinations or keep changing their destinations.

Be cautious of passengers who direct you to secluded places.

Be familiar with the use of the silent alarm.

If You Encounter a Robbery...

Remain calm and do not resist.

Activate the silent alarm when it is safe to do so.

Pay attention to the culprit’s appearance and distinctive physical features.

To help the Police investigations, do not touch anything at the crime scene.

If the culprit has escaped in a vehicle, note its registration number and other details.

If possible, inform your radio operator of the incident with the description of the culprit / getaway vehicle for lookout by your fellow drivers.

Report to the Police as soon as it is safe to do so.

Minimise Your Risk Against Theft

Secure all windows and doors of your taxi even if you have to leave it for a while.

Park in well–lit areas. Dark and secluded places are ideal for thieves.

Avoid leaving valuables in your vehicle.

Never leave your cash card in the In-vehicle Unit (IU) even if its stored value is low.

Use additional security devices such as a steering wheel lock or a clutch and brake lock.

You Can Help…

Your timely assistance will always help to save another person and prevent another crime.

Help look out for fellow taxi drivers in distress. Use pre-arranged codes or signals to enquire if he is alright.

Be attentive to your surroundings. Call the Police if you come across any suspicious situations.

Avoid direct confrontation with the suspicious character. He may be armed or violent.

Provide information on the location of your sighting and as many detailed description of the suspicious character as possible to the Police.

At The Scene of an Accident

What you should do if you are involved in an accident…

Stop immediately after the accident and check if anyone has been injured or killed.

If someone had been killed or seriously injured…

Contact the Police and Ambulance Service immediately.

Do not remove your vehicle without the authority of a Police officer unless:

i) A seriously injured person has to be sent to a hospital and there is no other vehicle to do so except the one involved in the accident.

ii) It is necessary to extricate a trapped person, prevent a fire or reduce a serious traffic hazard posed as a result of the accident.

You are required to render assistance as and when required by a Police officer, or in the absence of a Police officer, help the injured persons of the vehicle.

Remain at the scene until the Police arrived.

If no one has been injured or the injury is superficial (i.e. minor bruises or cuts)…

i) Switch on your hazard warning lights and move the vehicle out of the flow of traffic to the road shoulder; or to the left side of the road if there is no road shoulder.

ii) Do not hold up traffic by arguing or trying to settle the matter or exchanging particulars in the middle of the road. This may cause a second accident.

Exchange the following particulars with the other party:

    Name of the driver
    Driving license details
    IC number
    Address
    Name of insurance company
    Registration number of vehicle
    Name and address of vehicle owner

If you have a camera, photograph the damage, but do so safely.

If someone sustains superficial injuries, he may be brought to a private doctor. It is not necessary to summon the Police or ambulance.

You must lodge a Police accident report if:

Someone is injured in the accident.

The accident involves government vehicles (bearing QX or MID plates) or damage to government property.

The accident involves foreign registered vehicles.

The accident involves pedestrians or cyclists.

If there is no injury to anyone at the time of accident, you do not have to lodge a Police report with the exception of non-injury cases mentioned in (b) – (d).

Inform your insurance company and lodge a Non-Injury Motor Accident Report in the prescribed form available from your insurance company. Your insurance company will process your claim and inform you of the outcome.

Driver's Dos

When your vehicle breaks down, move it to the shoulder or to the extreme left side of the road. Switch on the hazard light to caution other road users. Place a triangular warning sign some distance in advance of your vehicle to warn others of the breakdown.

Give advance warning to other vehicles before changing lanes.

Be aware of changing conditions, even familiar roads can be dangerous.Watch out for:
    oily patches
    wet surfaces
    gravel or sand
    road works
    children and pedestrians
    cyclists

Be alert at all times

On the expressway:-

To enter, accelerate to reach the speed of travelling vehicles.

To leave, keep to the lane leading to the turn-off well in advance.

Be on the look-out for vehicles joining the expressway.

Plan the route to your destination well in advance.

Driver's Don't

Do not stop, pick up or alight passengers along the expressway.

Do not straddle lane or overtake recklessly.

Do not drive after taking alcoholic drinks.

Mvp30sg SG

i just got robbed last week. seriously sway. pick up 2 young malay boys about 17 - 18 years old. one sit infront and at the back. pick up at bukit panjang and ask me to go teck whye. when reach teck whye both pull out pen knife, those box cutter type. the one at the back put the knife to my throat the other fella point knife at my face. took all my money but didnt take my phone.

seriously all of you who talk alot of cock and gung ho about fighting all i can say is if you get robbed dun even put up a fight. just give the money later go make police report.

for a few hundred dollars you want to lose your life?? its not a matter of young or not strong or not know kung fu karate 8th dan or not, a knife put to your throat the robber grabra just press a little cut your wind pipe already you bat man or iron man also no use. for a few hundred dollars exchange your life, i say must see open, let them rob and later you try help police to catch them is better.

not die with pride, if die for a few hundred is die with stupidity.

sorry if i offend but this is my 2 cents worth.

Mvp30sg SG

hi hpgin,

sorry to heard abt your incident, i also agreed life is more important to $, MUST really see situation if wants to be "Hero", but i would like to add a few things,

1. we should be always be alert to look out potential "danger" especially for midnight drivers. 2. 4am two cb kia loitering around bt panjang, what r u thinking?! 3. ur body language plays a part, few occasion felt something is not right after "potiential" threat boarded my cab, I immediately pretend/ call my taxi buddy where I'm heading, to meet for early breakfast/ kopi etc. that would discourage them to try funny things. 4.Last but not least, whatever happened, always lodge a police report... dun just have the thinking of "just my luck"....

Just_do_it_lah SG

kill the mofo, rape his wife/gf, kills his 9 generations!!!

u should cut down on violent movies.

Mvp30sg SG

hi hpgin,

sorry to heard abt your incident, i also agreed life is more important to $, MUST really see situation if wants to be "Hero", but i would like to add a few things,

on the other hand, if i kena rob but able to turn the situation around, i make sure whoever tries me will kena jia luk jia luk....

Mvp30sg SG

when police comes, say i self-defence lor...

[email protected] SG

Agree wif bro Mvp tat we shud not let those tat run fare off easily…take down all minor details n chase the police to follow up…at the very least it add to the statistics of cases unsolved by them n show their incompetency…then don hv a car camera? this wud be a good deterent

Rbs70 SG

After your throat been cut, life end, gong si mi also no use liao......

At least bro hpgin kept his life, relay his whole incident and warn others, for this.......

Glorious death?.....

If you fight your life for your country, defend the nation, protect your family, KIA during war, that 1 than call Glorious death.......

Fight with si kina, kill by penknife?........don't make me laugh la.......

Hpgin SG

to be honest i wasnt thinking when i pick them up, pervious pax i picked up from mbs to bkt panjang, they drop off, those 2 fellas hop on, i still thought wah ho seh, got connextion to next stop....basket kena rob

Mvp30sg SG

After your throat been cut, life end, gong si mi also no use liao......

At least bro hpgin kept his life, relay his whole incident and warn others, for this.......

Glorious death?.....

If you fight your life for your country, defend the nation, protect your family, KIA during war, that 1 than call Glorious death.......

Fight with si kina, kill by penknife?........don't make me laugh la.......

That's why reading a person"s body language and being mentally prepared is very important...

let's analyze Hpgin's incident, when there's only 2 fella but one sits in front and one behind, it's already a very strong tell tale sign of their intention. and not to mention 2 si gina flagging a cab 4 am in housing estate going to another nearby ulu estate...

For me, that will defintely put me on high alert mode immediately by calling my kakis and maintain conversation throughout.

Next if really kena held at rob, will definitely surrender and say will co-operation with them to lower the risk of injury be it inflicted by them intentionally or accidentally due to them over kan choing while trying to hold me down. Surrendering and letting believe u have no intention of fighting back is most crucial.

Then must remain calm and tries to take note of all details and features of them.

Struck back only if you are very confident that you are able to turn the situation around... If not just have to count yourselve sway lor... But, MUST file a report immediately!!

Anyway, pen knife is not a deadly weapon, a screw-driver is which I've also kept one at my door pocket...

Of coarse if really kena this situation, I also might not be responding to what I have in mind, becos we have to factor in the shock factor...

Mvp30sg SG

What I really afraid of is those desperate case whereby they will stab you to death first before robbing you and search for your valuables like what really happened before in Singapore.

Needless to say those would be100% foreign workers...

PrOfAtSiR SG

LTA.. pls install cabin camera.fcuk the privacy.drivers safety come 1st.

Hpgin SG

What I really afraid of is those desperate case whereby they will stab you to death first before robbing you and search for your valuables like what really happened before in Singapore.

Needless to say those would be100% foreign workers...

never thought of that...i shudder now that you mention this. really gotta be careful from now onwards...

Mvp30sg SG

never thought of that...i shudder now that you mention this. really gotta be careful from now onwards...

Hi bro HPgin,

This would be the worst case senerio...

But locals not likely capable of that lah, if I give you a knife now, you can stab me without even blinking your eyes meh...?

Even those gang fight cases are being provoked then parang toh come one...

But hor... if those desperate cases like those foreign workers loose big time in casinos type... No garranty liao...

Mvp30sg SG

If possible, get out of the taxi immediately to gain a better defense position...

Still remember, there's a super lao chiao night shift taxi ah pek told me before, he only sling his safety belt accross he body but never buckle it one... so it a very good body language to show those [email protected] not to try anything funny by unbuckling your safety buckle when you are coming to a stop...

Trust me, everytime when I sense something fishy, I always does that... call on the phone/ pretend PTT with ear piece, auto lock the doors, unbuckle my belt buckle when almost stopping vehicle.

I think this thread deserved to be put as a sticky...

Poolman SG

A fighter will never feel the pain and blood during the fight .

Those fighters will fight .... until their last breathe .

Next morning if they're still alive , then they will feel the pain .

Knife robbery ?

The 2 melayus got no guts then they take knife for robbery .

Melayus are not famous for gutsy , gutless is more like it .

Poolman SG

It's never the money i fought for .

It's the pride of being human .

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