Look for increase in more immigration - CNA report

last SG · 2012-04-26T09:47:34+00:00

I hate immigrants because this destory our national indentity.I remember some guy said that our grandparents are immigrants. Since everyone is an immigrant.....

Paem SG

Pls dun complain lar, the G.E is over already. Recall once elite ever say this "We have the mandate of the people". Since the majority the singaporean agree with this policy, why cry father cry mother now.

The plp deserved the govt they have.

Don't be like a broken record.

mancha SG

The Nazi decision can only be stopped by its own citizens.

In Germany, the Nazis first came for the communists, and I did not speak up, because I was not a Communist. Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak up, because I was not a Jew. Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak up, because I was not a trade unionist. Then they came for the Catholics, and I did not speak up, because I was not a Catholic. Then they came for me... and by that time, there was no one to speak up for anyone.

-- Martin Niemoeller, Pastor,

German Evangelical (Lutheran) Church

^Acid^ aka s|aO^eH~ SG

-- Martin Niemoeller, Pastor,

German Evangelical (Lutheran) Church

nice quote... beri long no see nice and appropriate quote le...

Lazybumy SG

Don't be like a broken record.

Just doing what most the singaporean doing. Afterall most singaporean keep complaining abt the samething like a broken record and yet when the G.E come, they still give the elites the mandate.

Lazybumy SG

-- Martin Niemoeller, Pastor,

German Evangelical (Lutheran) Church

Actually most singaporean i known of is worst, many disagree with the policy, yet if you know them, they will tell you this, "let other vote for the opp lar, if I vote for opp, wait i kenna mark by PAP how?". Then after G.E, most of them complain the samething again.

fudgester SG

Frankly, I find it hard to accept this study without considering the possibility of confirmation bias.

In other words, the study may just be setting out to justify whatever the people behind it already believe in, i.e. the belief that increased immigration is necessary.

This part of the article is especially telling:

Research fellow at the Institute of Policy Studies, Leong Chan-Hoong, said that the data does not provide any information regarding PRs.

He said: "The data does not provide any information regarding the influx or projected intake of permanent residents. The number of new citizens is actually quite small vis a vis the number of new PRs. So the PRs actually take up a significant component of the new migrants so it would be more helpful if we have information about what kind of projection we are looking at."

In other words, by their own admission, the current and projected influx of new PRs has not been accounted for even though this is a really significant factor in the study.

alize SG

Frankly, I find it hard to accept this study without considering the possibility of confirmation bias.

In other words, the study may just be setting out to justify whatever the people behind it already believe in, i.e. the belief that increased immigration is necessary.

This part of the article is especially telling:

In other words, by their own admission, the current and projected influx of new PRs has not been accounted for even though this is a really significant factor in the study.

The study is for people who are stupid enough to believe anything, including its circular logic.

The rest of us can't be won over so they're not even trying.

Bikeforceful SG

Frankly, I find it hard to accept this study without considering the possibility of confirmation bias.

In other words, the study may just be setting out to justify whatever the people behind it already believe in, i.e. the belief that increased immigration is necessary.

This part of the article is especially telling:

In other words, by their own admission, the current and projected influx of new PRs has not been accounted for even though this is a really significant factor in the study.

The study is simply flawed! There are many other factors to consider in the whole equation. The assumptions ar e also flawed! But it certainly serves a political purpose. It is like when they tell you that in all their statistics PRs are considered TOGETHER WITH SINGAPOREANS under one catagory. So they go on and say actually foreigners do not account for the increase demand and sales of property but actually it is locals that are buying up properties. BUT "their " definition of locals meaning PRs are included. Or they say Singaporeans are the ones buying high end properties and landed properties these days as foreigner can't buy. But the Singapore citizen could be some Tng swah rich bug from China who had just paid for a Sentosa bungalow which included a citizenship thrown in, and therefore now as a NEW Singapore citizen there is nothing stopping him from speculating inland whether landed or condos! and they also convenient forget to tell you tha tforeigners can't buy outright landed properties BUT they can apply for permission to buy.,and if granted they do buy!

charlize SG

Life is surreal.

One day we may wake up and find that everything is all gone.

No more cai png.

charlize SG

And may I add, no more luncheon meat.

Bikeforceful SG

they never understand there is a limit to everything. This is a small island and to crammed that many and continue to increase is a disaster waiting to happen.

It is already a disaster with all the macham macham type of people irritating one another everywhere...but you see - these people who live in elephant trunk towers don't have to face it everyday so talk is so cheap wha t to do? and now to "force the number" 25,000 new Singaporeans each year, I really can't imagine the kind of people they will be giving these discounted citizenship coupons to....( shake head)

Medicated Oil SG

The keyword for 2012 is "UNAVOIDABLE".

Inflation, breakdown, ponding and population explosion.

Every one already know that we are facing an population crunch.

But, can the policy maker make an paradigm change in terms of making good use of the tax payer money insteading of packing the place into 3rd world situation ?

It is not possible when you see them continue to overload the place with more foreigners and becoming deaf to what the local is saying.

They are just cooking statistics and study in their favour to boost their bonus.

Fcukpap SG

sorry to say…..i foresee more water from the water dragon…

SBS2601D SG

It is quite clear that some of you failed to comprehend that Mr Leong was not part of the study and that the criticism he levelled at the study was far from subtle in fact.

Besides.

The study might be biased.

And why not?

But if you feel that you can do a study better with the given resources that you can have....you can try.

You won't be more convincing I assure you.

Why?

You will have to find that out for yourself since I have tried. And concluded that the thesis I'll do is not likely to be related to data on Singapore.

Care to take up this challenge?

Medicated Oil SG

Considering the productivity that he have given and the talent that he have brought forward, the lizard king should be more appropriate.

When the shit strike, the lizard king is nowhere to be found.

The more I read the COI for the train, the more I laugh at how things are well packaged with lots of rotten eggs underneath.

They may be regretting soon that they have dug out so much hard truth.

Can the Lizard King handle so much truth or he too busy telling his new FB pals what he ate for supper ?

Bikeforceful SG

It is quite clear that some of you failed to comprehend that Mr Leong was not part of the study and that the criticism he levelled at the study was far from subtle in fact.

Besides.

The study might be biased.

And why not?

But if you feel that you can do a study better with the given resources that you can have....you can try.

You won't be more convincing I assure you.

Why?

You will have to find that out for yourself since I have tried. And concluded that the thesis I'll do is not likely to be related to data on Singapore.

Care to take up this challenge?

Let me assure you that some of us do understand what is being presented and also the coments/conditional exclusion stated by Leong. But I think most people have become very skeptical of such surveys/study presented, as they often do tend to serve a purpose obviously. And that is alright of course, and so are counter criticisms! Depending on the statistics and figures and assumptions one chooses, different consequential results can be elicited to justify polices to be adapted. As to your challenge to do a survey, it is typical of how the government once used to challenge well meaning critics to stand for elections rather than being in an armchair. Well, my answer to that is : We have all our own different roles to play, to improve the system, lest it becomes tardy like the MRT lines!

winsomeea SG

Just doing what most the singaporean doing. Afterall most singaporean keep complaining abt the samething like a broken record and yet when the G.E come, they still give the elites the mandate.

These people are Sickaporeans not Singaporeans.

charlize SG

Hope less mrt breakdowns.

charlize SG

If 25,000 new citizens every year, that means in 5 years' time, there will be 125,000 new citizens.

Can this number make up for the % lost in votes in next ge?

charlize SG

125,000 of 2,000,000 voters is about 6%.

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