Speaking dialect has its uses

BanguIzai SG

quite a nonsensical rant, very different from what I was taught, defnitely not chuanchew or amoy dialect.

On the contrary, I found that it is a mixture of the Chuanchew and Amoy side and the Chiangchew side, and a trace of Taiwanese.

I transcribe the poem in his own pronunciation here for us to discuss:

花無濫糝開 (hue bo lam sam kh'ui)
花無濫糝開 (hue bo lam sam kh'ui)
姻緣無噡對 (im ien bo tã tui)
慾沉東京浮福建 (boˀ tim tang kĩã ph'u hɔk kien)
八百年前注姻緣 (pueˀ paˀ nĩ tsing tsu im ien)
乾坤配天地 (kh'en kh'un ph'ue th'ĩ tue)
乾坤配天地 (kh'en kh'un ph'ue th'ĩ tue)
天地配羅漢 (th'i tue ph'ue lo han)
蜀痴配蜀呆 (tsit tsh'i ph'ue tsit gai)
土豆配(...last part cut off) (th'ɔ tau ph'ue ...)

It is neither pure Chuanchew, Amoy, nor Chiangchew, because:

In short,

Clivebenss SG

On the contrary, I found that it is a mixture of the Chuanchew and Amoy side and the Chiangchew side, and a trace of Taiwanese.

I transcribe the poem in his own pronunciation here for us to discuss:

It is neither pure Chuanchew, Amoy, nor Chiangchew, because:

In short,

It is a nonsensical rant. Didn't rhyme nor bridge.

Clivebenss SG

I say th'ang nga mng 窗仔門

窗門 = window pane

窗口 = window frame

窗 = window

Clivebenss SG

you know this term huai ka li keh 横加里隔?

lce SG

窗口 = outside window

BanguIzai SG

you know this term huai ka li keh 横加里隔?

I definitely know this is from Teochew, not Hokkien.

I use this term since young.

I think you forgot to indicate that the 橫 is a nasalised vowel, therefore it is hũãĩ ka li kɛˀ 。

Clivebenss SG

I definitely know this is from Teochew, not Hokkien.

I use this term since young.

I think you forgot to indicate that the 橫 is a nasalised vowel, therefore it is hũãĩ ka li kɛˀ 。

It's a Hokkien/Teochew term. True, the teochews use it more often. Quemoy have a pechant for this term.

Clivebenss SG

窗口 = outside window

窗外口

BanguIzai SG

It's a Hokkien/Teochew term. True, the teochews use it more often. Quemoy have a pechant for this term.

Quemoy has this ?!? In my dictionary in my head, only Teochew have this lor.

Clivebenss SG

Quemoy has this ?!? In my dictionary in my head, only Teochew have this lor.

You from Quemoy and this is your hometown term leh. Somehow the teochews like to use it more; may be because not so many Quemoy people in Sg as compare to Teochews. Partly most Quemoy live with Teochews esp in Riau and Johor.

BanguIzai SG

My Quemoy don't have. Neither does my TangWa Hokkien and my Amoy Hokkien have this term. These are the 3 varieties that I speak usually.

I oso dunno wat is the percentage of Quemoy people in Sg as compared to other varieties. It is a variety that is always missed out in discussion by linguists. The most usual variety of Hokkien in Singapore today is a mixture of TangWa, Amoy, Chinkang. Chuanchew and Chiangchew has only a sprinkling effect on Singaporean Hokkien.

Clivebenss SG

My Quemoy don't have. Neither does my TangWa Hokkien and my Amoy Hokkien have this term. These are the 3 varieties that I speak usually.

This is an old term from Quemoy, when I go to Riau yrs ago, I hear this term quite often.

I believe there is less than 10,000 Quemoy people in Sg; many of whom can't speak good Quemoy dialect. They either use too much Chinkang or Amoy. Grandma from Quemoy so I know this term.

Clivebenss SG

BanguIzai SG

This is an old term from Quemoy, when I go to Riau yrs ago, I hear this term quite often.

I believe there is less than 10,000 Quemoy people in Sg; many of whom can't speak good Quemoy dialect. They either use too much Chinkang or Amoy. Grandma from Quemoy so I know this term.

How about I give a postulation? Since the little numbers of Quemoy people has mingled too much with the Teochews, they absorbed hũãĩ ka li kɛˀ into Quemoy Hokkien?

Another thing I want to mention:

It is rather stupid that they named the 金门会馆 at Kampong Java as " kim mui huay kuan ".

Because the Quemoy people themselves pronounce 金门 as kim mng, not kim mui.

Suddenly thought of something.

Perhaps it is you who confused 濫糝 lam sam with 懒散 lan san leh. Hehehe. U think so or not ?

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