Why nationalising public transport won't work : Lim Hwee Hua

last SG · 2011-04-16T23:00:10+00:00

dunno wat to say abt LHWShe mentioned last yr abt cutting long distance bus routes citing that they appeared before the MRT appeared.Actual fact was, many of...

sbst275 SG

I thought you were talking about economies of scale, fuel and bus acquisition just now.

Now it's sidetrack to Iris.

What's the benefit of Iris to consumer? It only helps optimize their operations so that they could profit more from the system.

If it's about bulk fuel purchases, the bus operators could always set up an association to purchase fuel in bulk and distribute amongst the smaller operators. There are always work arounds, there are many solutions to the problems, it's not a mutually exclusive solution.

"When you split up, there's no more econs of scale esp over fuel and bus purchases.

I think the worst would end up being say spending $$ on farecards, who's going to spend back in 1980s if it wasn't a monopoly and govt back then had other things to focus on."

Eh. Do you use iris? Isn't it comfort of at home instead of waiting at e hot bus stop another comfort? They've the money, they can start spending for others as well.

If it's nationalised, they'll tell you why spend? Taxpayers $$ bla bla bla.

Later your say another cartel over fuel right? Furthermore, it's only an assn, as like opp parties they have their own ways of ops.

Fcukpap SG

more proactive programmes and effort should be placed to resolve the stagnant income gap

mancha SG

I'm only sure that it wouldn't work for PAP ministers' pockets.

you know what you are saying?

Nationalising the public transport system would be good for government pockets.

The government is against nationalising but for privatising, which is good for the share holders. I am a shareholder of SBS. I owned 5000 shares in the seventies for the purpose of bus pass. Now that 5000 shares has grown into 16040 ComfortDelgro shares and 1200 SBS Transit Ltd valued at about $28000, this does not include the dividends all these years.

So what are you saying?

or are you just whining erroneously?

sbst275 SG

you know what you are saying?

Nationalising the public transport system would be good for government pockets.

So what are you saying?

or are you just whining erroneously?

you really benefitted from it thanks to share split and so on.

1978 listing? The govt then was smart la, SBS needed the funds to expand (govt can't provide back then, we're poor then) and everyone took public tpt (SBS was e only operator).

So it worked out well.

SevenEleven SG

So sbst, you think nationalise or privatise is better for Sg?

I value your opinion.

so how sbst? I value your opnion too

Clivebenss SG

so how sbst? I value your opnion too

I agree.

Rooney9 SG

nationalising isnt it the same as communism?

Clivebenss SG

Sg is almost one.

Rooney9 SG

Sg is almost one.

US also what. save AIG, save Citigroup and a host of other US companies. ironically China is acting like a capitalist country

Askingyouto SG

you know what you are saying?

Nationalising the public transport system would be good for government pockets.

So what are you saying?

or are you just whining erroneously?

Think of the big picture, my friend.

http://www.smrt.com.sg/investors/shareholders_information.asp

Take a look whose is on the board of director

Board of Directors
Koh Yong Guan, Chairman
Saw Phaik Hwa, President & CEO
Dilhan Pillay Sandrasegara
Halimah Yacob
Ho Kim Wai
Paul Ma Kah Woh
Ong Ye Kung
Bob Tan Beng Hai
Tan Ek Kia
Peter Tan Boon Heng

Halimah Yacob is the Deputy Secretary General & Director of NTUC and is responsible for Legal Services, Women and Industrial Relations in the Public Sector.

Isn't she in the news before, talking about how she helped workers who also used public transport?

So is public transport affordable now to workers?

This is a chance to sweep away PAP cronies that are entrenched in all these GLCs, who have no compassion for people and have only their own interest at heart.

Anyway, how many people own the shares?

High cost of living is killing everyone, isn't it better to let the gov step in and provide at least a breather for people who take-home pay is geting lesser because of transport cost?

Icerage SG

you know what you are saying?

Nationalising the public transport system would be good for government pockets.

So what are you saying?

or are you just whining erroneously?

personal gains r more important like pap

sbst275 SG

Think of the big picture, my friend.

http://www.smrt.com.sg/investors/shareholders_information.asp

Take a look whose is on the board of director

Halimah Yacob is the Deputy Secretary General & Director of NTUC and is responsible for Legal Services, Women and Industrial Relations in the Public Sector.

Isn't she in the news before, talking about how she helped workers who also used public transport?

So is public transport affordable now to workers?

This is a chance to sweep away PAP cronies that are entrenched in all these GLCs, who have no compassion for people and have only their own interest at heart.

Anyway, how many people own the shares?

High cost of living is killing everyone, isn't it better to let the gov step in and provide at least a breather for people who take-home pay is geting lesser because of transport cost?

If you knew who ran SBS, you would be in for more shock.

In initial team of govt officals tat tookover SBS from e private operators in 1970s were mostly army & MINDEF officers. Macham an army runned organisation.

I'm not too sure abt SMRT, but lots of people still own SBS shares till to this very day.

Seriously how much fares are u paying after distance fare?

sbst275 SG

and as what mancha has said,

WP is literally asking the govt to keep every single cent of the profits.

charlize SG

If you knew who ran SBS, you would be in for more shock.

In initial team of govt officals tat tookover SBS from e private operators in 1970s were mostly army & MINDEF officers. Macham an army runned organisation.

I'm not too sure abt SMRT, but lots of people still own SBS shares till to this very day.

Seriously how much fares are u paying after distance fare?

You know so much, tell us lar.

Don't keep us in suspense.

Askingyouto SG

If you knew who ran SBS, you would be in for more shock.

In initial team of govt officals tat tookover SBS from e private operators in 1970s were mostly army & MINDEF officers. Macham an army runned organisation.

I'm not too sure abt SMRT, but lots of people still own SBS shares till to this very day.

Seriously how much fares are u paying after distance fare?

I don't know how much I'm paying but I do seem to top up more times than the past.

I should state in the first place that I am comfortable in the idea of gov taking over if the gov is opposition led.

There will be a difference if it is opposition led gov instead of PAP.

PAP likes to reward their own cronies with board of directors crap far too often.

sbst275 SG

I don't know how much I'm paying but I do seem to top up more times than the past.

I should state in the first place that I am comfortable in the idea of gov taking over if the gov is opposition led.

There will be a difference if it is opposition led gov instead of PAP.

PAP likes to reward their own cronies with board of directors crap far too often.

I think you dun realise, then who's going to run e bus co? If you've realised, all these yrs it's either from e army or civil service which e cronies you're claiming.

a bus co easily has some 5800 bus drivers, it's macham size of an army div.

I think if as wat WP claims of nationalising, I think they'll soon keep e money into reserves instead of spending it on things like iris.

PAP or WP, they're politicians.

Askingyouto SG

I think you dun realise, then who's going to run e bus co? If you've realised, all these yrs it's either from e army or civil service which e cronies you're claiming.

a bus co easily has some 5800 bus drivers, it's macham size of an army div.

I think if as wat WP claims of nationalising, I think they'll soon keep e money into reserves instead of spending it on things like iris.

PAP or WP, they're politicians.

Things are wrong right from the start, and it seems like there's no turning back at all.

There's no one anyone can trust but yet dishonest people are still lurking around and enjoying it all.

Quite a quagmire.

Medicated Oil SG

I think the opposition parties should focus on addressing the high cost of living.

The Ah Kong companies are set up to house all the retired croonies from the house or green, blue and white.

So, what is the difference of it being nationalised ?

charlize SG

Times are bad.

Haiz.

alize SG

Lim Hwee Hua forgot that nationalising can involve providing 4 buses per hour if SMRT only provide 3. The govt only needs to pay for 1.

Is she stupid? No.

What's the point of asking her whether can nationalise? She has no authority to make a new party position, she can just give a lame excuse.

The person who asked is the real idiot.

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