Why nationalising public transport won't work : Lim Hwee Hua

likeyou SG

'I think the underlying motivation for suggesting that public transport should be nationalised is that it can be cheap.

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Cheap? Being increasing over the years.

likeyou SG

'I think the underlying motivation for suggesting that public transport should be nationalised is that it can be cheap.

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Cheap? Being increasing over the years.

16/f/lonely SG

What makes you think that a company operating under monopoly with savings in economies of scale will pass off savings to consumers?

Competition will only benefit consumers, monopolies will only benefit the owners of the monopolies.

Already with only 2 companies we have SMRT's irritaing advertisements singing to us.

Can you imagine what kind of advertising campaigns that waste $$$ we would have with MORE companies?

We also cannot think only of consumers....because we have a stake in the companies as well simply because we share the same economic space.

In any case, competition has the tendency to lead to over-produce if the companies compete in quantity, which is the case here, if we do not use the standard supply-demand and use instead game theories to predict outcomes which have proven to be rather accurate.

shanfan SG

Aunty Hwee Hua like her other colleagues speak against anything that don't help them make more profits. This one also should be out of parliament. Please, as it is their transport fare system is benefitting the people. We keep paying more and more each year for them to carry on to reduce the frequency of buses even during peak hours. It is no value for money for the commuters to keep paying rising cost and get lousy service.

Some months back she responded heartlessly to risk arising in cyclists cycling in pedestrian pathway. Claimed nothing can be done about it and ask both pedestrians and cyclists to tolerate each other. Pay her millions to shirk responsibility, shit! Like that anyone of us also can take over her and get paid million.

Wherever she is contesting, residents please vote her out.

alize SG

Claim our government is so efficient, why nationalize transport service not efficient?

Gosh, she has so many posts = so much $

Lim Hwee Hua is a Singaporean politician, currently serving as the Minister in the Prime Minister’s Office and appointed concurrently as Second Minister for Finance and Second Minister for Transport. She is also Serangoon Gardens MP.

sbst275 SG

Claim our government is so efficient, why nationalize transport service not efficient?

Gosh, she has so many posts = so much $

it's proven in other countries tat it does not work

alize SG

it's proven in other countries tat it does not work

Why do nationalized trains work but not nationalized buses?

MRT lines are nationalized, their operators aren't and the lines are drawn up by govt studies. As a result it works very well up to its capacity. If a private company only provides 8 trains per hour, can the govt fund a 9th and 10th? Can the same approach work for buses?

This means everyone will get a chance to board. The govt will determine crowding standards and if operators are not happy about losing money, why should the govt be so quick to use its power everywhere but not here?

We need to streamline traffic flow, not just limit cars. Why is going down Orchard Road quick but going in the opposite direction so slow? Because the roads are not rationalized towards public or any much transport. The same in towns.

The closest thing I've seen is the $36M Stamford Road tunnel, which doesn't help buses much because there was already a bus lane. I suspect ever since, re-laying roads has been a political suicide move.

We supposedly have the best paid, best brains in the govt to solve such problems.

Icerage SG

Why do nationalized trains work but not nationalized buses?

We supposedly have the best paid, best brains in the govt to solve such problems.

simply, its too difficult for them to handle

Clivebenss SG

They are only interested in profits for their fat bonuses and pay.

Icerage SG

it's proven in other countries tat it does not work

its a matter of money and obligation

shanfan SG

LIM HWEE HUA is a sucker .

All working in PM's office are the cream of the crop for being yucks.

sbst275 SG

dunno wat to say abt LHW

She mentioned last yr abt cutting long distance bus routes citing that they appeared before the MRT appeared.

Actual fact was, many of the long distance bus routes appeared during the MRT rationalisation program. Sv 30, 51, 154's long distance mileage was all thanks to the MRT . Long dist Sv 66 was introduced as a totally new bus service in 1989 during the MRT rationalisation program.

I think the young govt policy makers got their facts all wrong.

mancha SG

"Why do nationalized trains work but not nationalized buses?"

???

The MRT tracks are built by the government

The roads are built by the government.

Bus or trains, the operators run them on national infrastructure, to the best of their abilities.

National infractures / government department run trains and buses, will it work?

sbst275 SG

Why do nationalized trains work but not nationalized buses?

We supposedly have the best paid, best brains in the govt to solve such problems.

Eh.. SMRT dun own the train, the carriages are purchased by e govt.

So you want more train, ask them during the budget.

SBS's coming was during the days the govt had no means onto running a bus co. Furthermore by 1970s, UK's nationalised industry began to show a lot of problem.

In fact, ComfortDelgro bids for bus routes in London - which used to be nationalised.

alize SG

Of course the Govt providing anything will cost money.

But let's not forget, the Govt running a few extra trains in exchange for all they ask us to sacrifice.

By working hard, putting up with high population, not buying cars, putting some people in power, putting up with their mistakes, we support national policy, national productivity, national profitability.

As for LHW cutting long distance services, it's a big ruling party practice to gloss over the truth as time goes by. Every history textbook edition, something new to say and something less to ever be mentioned again. The next revision will have something to do with Chinese history.

Why does she want to cut those for? If they are running, isn't the profit motive working?

sbst275 SG

Of course the Govt providing anything will cost money.

But let's not forget, the Govt running a few extra trains in exchange for all they ask us to sacrifice.

Why does she want to cut those for? If they are running, isn't the profit motive working?

They've purchased 21 new trains. 5 has arrived, likely set to join revenue service as the Jurong East 4th platform begins service next month.

The cut is just to signify going back to old days, more duplicating bus svs flooding the CBD area. Even MBT now providing smaller and smaller bus int, might as well go back to roadside bus interchange

Most ironic was MBT was e same person tat gave Singapore e proper bus interchange since 1980s. This is something history cannot be twisted.

Now bus driver has no proper breaks cos no place to park e bus, are suffering now. MBT should jolly well go to Boon Lay Int during e peak hours to see e mess he has created. Remembered he said "I cared for the SBS drivers"????

Tat's why when TCH says of PAP's past record. Touch their heart, they're now bringing us back to 1970s living standard.

They're rewinding e works of ministers like late Dr GKS.

likeyou SG

Wherever she is contesting, residents please vote her out.

Definately pap love her so much. She help pap to earn money. Err..govt.

alize SG

They've purchased 21 new trains. 5 has arrived, likely set to join revenue service as the Jurong East 4th platform begins service next month.

Most ironic was MBT was e same person tat gave Singapore e proper bus interchange since 1980s. This is something history cannot be twisted.

Tat's why when TCH says of PAP's past record. Touch their heart, they're now bringing us back to 1970s living standard.

They're rewinding e works of ministers like late Dr GKS.

So where do the drivers park now- or they drive non stop?

Think Clementi will go down the same path.

alize SG

They've purchased 21 new trains. 5 has arrived, likely set to join revenue service as the Jurong East 4th platform begins service next month.

Most ironic was MBT was e same person tat gave Singapore e proper bus interchange since 1980s. This is something history cannot be twisted.

Tat's why when TCH says of PAP's past record. Touch their heart, they're now bringing us back to 1970s living standard.

They're rewinding e works of ministers like late Dr GKS.

So where do the drivers park now- or they drive non stop?

Think Clementi will go down the same path.

sbst275 SG

So where do the drivers park now- or they drive non stop?

Think Clementi will go down the same path.

wait lor.. queue

sometimes 7 - 8 buses can be queueing... which is pretty bad cos it could block the bus parking exiting access bay.

They want buses to be more frequent yet they dun bother providing enough capacity anymore.

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