but those taiwanese ones are different, more mandarinised
Hokkien.
I ate dinner with 5 Taiwanese girls aged 24-29 just now.
I took them on to compare our Hokkien and their Hokkien, some of
the findings I got from just now (tones omitted)
*****
Mandarin: "一堆東西" - "a pile of things"
Hokkien:
Me - Tsit Tu Mih KiaN
or Tsit Bu Mih KiaN
Girl A - Tsit Tui Mih KiaN
Girl B - Tsit Tsuai Mih KiaN
Girl A has exactly the same word
pronounced as in Mandarin, whereas Girl
B told me even she has not heard any other district
use "Tsuai".
Both of them from different parts of Kaohsiung
*****
Mandarin: "一串香蕉" - "a bunch of bananas"
Hokkien:
Me - Tsit Pi Kin
Tsio
Girl A, Girl
B - Tsit KuaN Kin Tsio
To me "KuaN" is not acceptable as a
classifier for bananas, the correct classifier should
be "Pi". "KuaN" should be used only to
refer to "a bunch
of grapes". You know
what? When I asked them, their "Pi" becomes to refer to
"a piece of banana"
!
*****
Mandarin: "一樓" - "first floor"
Hokkien:
Me -
It Lau
Girl A -
It Lau
Girl
C - Tsit
Lau
Girl A is from Kaohsiung and Girl
C is from Taichung. Apparently, Girl
C has a corrupted form of Hokkien which does not
differentiate between the 2 forms of "ONE" that
exist in Hokkien - "It Lau" means
"first floor"
whereas "Tsit
Lau" means "one floor"
*****
Mandarin: "削鉛筆" - "to sharpen pencil"
Hokkien:
Me - Khau Ian Pit
Girl A - Xiao Qian Bi
Girl B - Khau Ian Pit
Girl A told me, her family has lost the
ability of how to say "sharpen pencil" in Hokkien already and they
substitute the Mandarin phrase when they talk about it
*****
Mandarin: "駕車" - "to drive car"
Hokkien:
Me - HuaN Tshia
Girl A - Khui Tshia
Girl A told me, "Khui Tshia" is for
"drive a car"
whereas "Sai Tshia" is for
"drive a
train". She has never heard of "HuaN"
*****
Mandarin: "現在" - "now"
Hokkien:
Me - Tsit Tsun
Girl A, Girl B - Tsip Mak (more commonly used)
or Tsit Tsun
Girl B told me "Tsip Mak" (<assimilated
from "Tsit Bak") is more commonly used
although they also understand "Tsit Tsun"
*****
Mandarin - "蓋布袋" - "cover with sack"
Hokkien:
Me - Kham PO Te
Girl A, Girl B - Khan PO Te
initially Girl B said
"Khan" but after I asked
"what's Khan?" and explained it's the
word for "cover", I told her I say
"Kham" and then
Girl B realised it and
Girl A says she understands it but she told
put much emphasis to it
nowadays
*****
Mandarin - "不一樣" - "not same"
Hokkien:
Me - Bo
Sio Siang or Bo Sio Sang
Girl A - Bo
Kang
Girl A says she understands
"Bo Sio Siang" but rarely do she speak
that form
*****
Mandarin - "對/是/我同意的發聲語" - "the emphasizer for agreement"
Me - Hannor, Hannor
Girl A - HeN Lor HeN Lor
*****
Conclusion:
Both Taiwanese Hokkien and Singapore Hokkien have lost some
usage from their Ancestral Hokkien and is in the process of
dilution from external influences
