That's all i really understand haha. The link you gave me has
enlightened me a little. My in laws are henghwa people but they
have no idea how to speak henghwa. Yes, their roots are from putien
but they have no idea how to speak it anymore. All they can tell me
it's not hokkien but i guess it's close. Yeh and they are
indonesians haha....the chinese language has died off during
suharto's time. Dialects and languages are almost non-existent
among the common Chinese family in Java but still very active in
sumatra, kalimantan, sulawesi etc...Controls in those areas were
not so strict then.
The chinese in java still use hokkien/mandarin terms for money and
some other slang here and there but other than that, usage of the
language is almost zilch.
Eg:
Good fortune - 福气 (hock kee)
New year - 新年 (sin jia)
Hari raya - Warna jia
Very delicious - 好吃神经病 (hao chi shen jing bing)
Thank you - 感谢(kam xia)
Congrats - 恭喜 (gong hee; strictly to be used only during CNY)
etc etc.
Suharto has got to be up there with Hitler minus the genocides. He
massacred the entire line of mandarin and chinese dialects in Java
all within 30 years.
ok, what other more info do you need to get more enlightened on
henghwa ?
ya, they are right,
it's not hokkien, but what made you had the initial
impression that you "guess it's close" leh ?? (coz u haf not
heard of it, how did u form dat impression ? -
although you are right, it's close
)
All you mentioned regarding the situation in java, sumatra,
kalimantan, are all correct. We talked about Bagansiapiapi in
another thread before. (-populated by Hokkiens from Tong'An
variety) While Medan are basically Hokkiens from ChiangChew variety
- Note: While
they all still speak Hokkien, I noticed the Bagansiapiapi's speak
pure Tong'An Hokkien with less than 5% Bahasa Admixture,
whereas most Medaner's and Palembanger's speak non-pure
ChiangChew Hokkien with more than 10%-15% Bahasa
Admixture). I met one from Aceh who is a Hakka,
can still speak Hakka but lousy. People from Kalimantan (the
one I met is from Pontianak and she told me others too) spoke
Teochew to me (her Teochew is good!). Another one from Bintan
speaks good Hokkien too. I met one
exception: There's
one from Makassar (Sulawesi), told me he's Hokkien but cannot speak
any Hokkien anymore.
I am amused by "Warna Jia". Should I
interpret as "the Colourful Festival" or do the
Javanese Chinese think it is the "Festival for the Coloured
(peoples)" leh ?? He He He
And 好吃神經病, alamak, looks like a literal from Hokkien ah,
izzit ? "Ho Tsiah Kau Siau"
But the thing is, if 恭喜 is pronounced as "Gong Hee" or
"Kong Hee" without the "i" in
between --> eg "Giong Hee" or
"Kiong Hee",
then it does not sound authentic Hokkien
Ya the Suharto story is a sad story. And haizz, I also got a
sad reply from the lady ler, she says that applicants need to have
a good honours degree in an area relevant to linguistics la.
I don't have lor, so no point liao. Heh.