Angry with SIM =(

last SG · 2008-06-06T16:33:51+00:00

aiyah .. too much lah guysif look at commercial contract lawThe contractual term and condition is stated and by right and fact the school does not state in i...

dumbdumb! SG

I'm not saying it's petty to be upset about it.

if I paid school fees and the refreshments were part of the package, I'll be annoyed.

but if the enrolment terms didn't state anything of such, black and white they are not wrong.

It's just like those while stocks last terms. Just nice when u queued for 2 hours and the freebies are distributed finish.. :P

haha, obviously some of the posters here think that it's petty, and coincidently, they're demostrating that talk is certainly cheap, especially if they're not implicated by the decision.

it is not wrong, is politically right, but since our fees have definitely covered the cost of the refreshments, we would like to know why they have stopped it.

cuddles SG

for crying out loud electricity is critical to the lectures while teabreak is not

how come suka suka can use this as analogy?

talk is cheap yah?

analogy very subjective.. I think electricity those kind of basic things I think let people know also don't need the students get angry.. the parents will get angrier!

laurence82 SG

haha, obviously some of the posters here think that it's petty, and coincidently, they're demostrating that talk is certainly cheap, especially if they're not implicated by the decision.

it is not wrong, is politically right, but since our fees have definitely covered the cost of the refreshments, we would like to know why they have stopped it.

i think you are the one demonstrating cheap talk

just like the stompers who only know how to complain and post pics online

dumbdumb! SG

for crying out loud electricity is critical to the lectures while teabreak is not

how come suka suka can use this as analogy?

talk is cheap yah?

but the point is, the cost of the refreshment is logically covered by our fees, so if they cut off the refreshment, where is the money going to?

i used this as an analogy to argue the fact that, the issue cannot be simply shrugged off and ignored and swept under the carpet just because it isn't labelled black and white on paper, as argued by some posters.

laurence82 SG

analogy very subjective.. I think electricity those kind of basic things I think let people know also don't need the students get angry.. the parents will get angrier!

huh?

bryanw SG

for crying out loud electricity is critical to the lectures while teabreak is not

how come suka suka can use this as analogy?

talk is cheap yah?

precisely. electricity, library, labs are necessary. food isnt. when students sign up for a particular course, they also take into account the sch facilities and resources to aid them in their learning.

dumbdumb! SG

i think you are the one demonstrating cheap talk

just like the stompers who only know how to complain and post pics online

how is what i said be labelled as cheap talk?

i study there, i paid the fees there, of course i feel the pinch and annoyance.

did you pay the fees? if you didn't and said that it doesn't matter (because you aren't affected directly by the decision), then it's cheap talk.

cuddles SG

haha, obviously some of the posters here think that it's petty, and coincidently, they're demostrating that talk is certainly cheap, especially if they're not implicated by the decision.

it is not wrong, is politically right, but since our fees have definitely covered the cost of the refreshments, we would like to know why they have stopped it.

please show us your official receipt of the payment details for your course.

and also your enrolment package details. Kindly highlight the refreshments part. Facilities can be just maintenance of the building and other stuff..

newcomer SG

aiya these ppl nv study in sim wun understand lah, so act very noble and wei da say we gian peng, want refreshments.

i say fuck you sim.

laurence82 SG

but the point is, the cost of the refreshment is logically covered by our fees, so if they cut off the refreshment, where is the money going to?

then that should be the direction you should be asking the school directly

if you post your analogy like that, please brush up on your communication skills

laurence82 SG

how is what i said be labelled as cheap talk?

i study there, i paid the fees there, of course i feel the pinch and annoyance.

did you pay the fees? if you didn't and said that it doesn't matter (because you aren't affected directly by the decision), then it's cheap talk.

to repeat, its cheap talk if you only know how to complain, worse, in a forum where nobody has any cause or reason to help you, advise you or what

since when does the person giving the advice or add to the topic has to be a student?

shessh

cuddles SG

accept it as a fact of life. you go everywhere, no black and white you lose it ultimately.

you make noise now also can, SIM can always reply with a "sorry for everything, we can't continue to provide you with that privillege liao"

whatever it is, maybe if you demand for refreshments, they might add in a Refreshments fees in your course fees.

dumbdumb! SG

so you agree that, the services provided by sim, shouldn't be based on simple black and white terms?

ok, i think what the stomper (and myself and so far, all of my classmates) feels is that, we have paid a certain amount of fees, which cover the cost of the electricity bills, tutor fees, and refreshment (they wouldn't provide all these if they knew that whatever they receive from us isn't covering the cost right?)

and it's unfair to us to just tell us one fine day that there won't be anymore refreshment, and without telling us why?

and we are still paying the same amount of fees, which don't really justify, unless of course they let us know the reason why la.

and what annoys me is, that the people who says that it's not a big deal, and that i'm petty etc, are the same people whose lives aren't affected at all by this decision.

laurence82 SG

its like, hospitals provide shuttle bus service

they remove the shuttle bus service, but they still provide the basic healthcare, we become cynical of where our tax money goes to?

we can

a) kpkb in stomp and online forums

b) talk to the management of the hospital

c) raise it to the minister of health

d) other options

certainly i wont make a fool of myself in a)

bryanw SG

there are 3 solutions just accept it complete the course and move on OR

speak or write to the school and offer your "stand" see what can be done. is there any room to negotiate. OR

not happy just quit sim, find another school simple as that which only fools will do so over what "food".

laurence82 SG

so you agree that, the services provided by sim, shouldn't be based on simple black and white terms?

and it's unfair to us to just tell us one fine day that there won't be anymore refreshment, and without telling us why?

and we are still paying the same amount of fees, which don't really justify, unless of course they let us know the reason why la.

and what annoys me is, that the people who says that it's not a big deal, and that i'm petty etc, are the same people whose lives aren't affected at all by this decision.

totally not an objective post

you decide whether people posts are useful base on whether their background and qualifications, regardless of the validity of these arguments

ad hominem arguments

pffft

dumbdumb! SG

to repeat, its cheap talk if you only know how to complain, worse, in a forum where nobody has any cause or reason to help you, advise you or what

since when does the person giving the advice or add to the topic has to be a student?

shessh

it's cheap talk if you, a person who isn't affected by a decision, can't see why those who are affected, are angry, and talk as if you're affected as wel and don't see a problem with it.

i mean, if you are a student there, and have paid the fees, and you don't feel it's a problem, it's not wrong you know, it just means that you're easy going, or rich, so it doesn't really matter.

but you didn't pay the fees.. you just.. say it isn't a big deal, because you're not directly involved. it's like... (i guess you're working now), one day your company decide to make it compulsary for you guys to pay a certain amount of fees for lunch, and they serve really lousy food, that you rather eat at a foodcourt, but you still have to pay for the food they indented for you.

and i say "pay lor, not a big deal wat"

u get what i mean?

dumbdumb! SG

there are 3 solutions just accept it complete the course and move on OR

speak or write to the school and offer your "stand" see what can be done. is there any room to negotiate. OR

not happy just quit sim, find another school simple as that which only fools will do so over what "food".

lol ya. bo bian lor. gonna finish alr. lucky?

newcomer SG

talk so many da dao li for wat? can't u just see the simple fact that this is purely a business transaction between sim and her students? only thing is students got one thing lesser to gain.

bryanw SG

it's cheap talk if you, a person who isn't affected by a decision, can't see why those who are affected, are angry, and talk as if you're affected as wel and don't see a problem with it.

i mean, if you are a student there, and have paid the fees, and you don't feel it's a problem, it's not wrong you know, it just means that you're easy going, or rich, so it doesn't really matter.

and i say "pay lor, not a big deal wat"

u get what i mean?

but in life there will always be someone getting the short end of the stick depending on how you see it.

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