CMI SIA!!!

spec SG

Got some money, buy within your budget. Period.
No car under own name, no talk. Period.

Kr0n SG

Perhaps there's a bit of a difficult factor here. I'm afraid to disagree about your "backbone" point. Singapore is very much unlike Australia or America, where cars are much cheaper to own. A young adult here doesn't earn that much, and the cost of living is already good enough to take out a huge chunk of his pay. As a result, not everyone has the same mindset to "work their as5 off for the car". It really becomes more of a liability than a convenience, which is where the alternative stands, at public transport, for those who have "tight budget constraints" and yet want a car.

The matter I believe tofu is trying to point out is that these people are making really bad choices, given the kind of reputation that chery has. It could boil down to a couple of thousand dollars worth of savings for them, but many don't look like they realise that it's at the cost of a lot less safety and quality. It really gives the "cannot afford car comfortably yet die die want one" impression.

I know some of us here are better off than others to have their parents car to drive around, or to have their parents buying them cars. It's not their fault, nor is it their parents. You can't blame someone or call them "no backbone" just because their parents are well off enough to dote on them that way.

Hope you can understand our point is not to lambast those drivers, but rather voicing our opinion that they've made extremely terrible choices.

casshern SG

i dunno, but to me, if i cant afford a decent car, i wouldnt even want to get the QQ.

take the bus, mrt or wat, they are much safer. pay 30k to risk my life? esp on the roads of singapore? no thanks

qpicanto SG

japanese car split into two after crashing a tree many years back, this got count or not?

Anti_AhSiah SG

Not forgetting Beemers aplenty bursting into flames after crashing.....

does it not make it a lemon too? Rolling Eyes

Midship SG

Can you please specify what kind of stickers you see?

I`m very interested to know. Really!

spec SG

The matter I believe tofu is trying to point out is that these people are making really bad choices, given the kind of reputation that chery has. It could boil down to a couple of thousand dollars worth of savings for them, but many don't look like they realise that it's at the cost of a lot less safety and quality. It really gives the "cannot afford car comfortably yet die die want one" impression.

It is their freedom to make terrible choices. So you know they are terrible choices, I see no need to rub it in or to put forth your comments on the car in a very insulting way. I would rather the thread be less insulting just like the earlier ones showing the crash tests.

You mentioned your point is not to lambast those drivers...look at the various thread your friend has started...I think they lambast the owners till death.

I still think Singapore is full of marketing hype. Just like VW. The Kwees made perfect choices of pricing the cars much higher than they are worth...and people will say lousy cars like the Polo are good cars...why? Expensive mah.

Madafaka SG

VW Polio? oops I mean Polo. Yeah, have to agree with you on that. Smart move by the dealer.

Unfortunately the local mindset of people is that, for certian things, the more it costs the better. And even if they did buy a lemon at an expensive price, their pride and ego will not allow them to admit that they bought a lemon. Cos they're afrad that they'll lose face and rather bite the bullet and complain.

honestly, we all know the QQ ain't a fantastic car. But please compare apples to apples. you can't compare a no frills car with one with a slight luxury standard.

QQ came into the market as a budget economy car. Is there anything wrong with that?

Their target market is for those who have just started working and can't afford to buy an expensive car.

Some of the comments made here (in the forum) are totall uncalled for. You people call other people's car CMI.

Make that statement when you OWN your own car. Not a car where you DAD or MUM pays for it. Then let's see if you'll say that a toyota wish with gauages is CMI.

It's interesting that all of you are trashing Chery. Not that i'm a big supporter of the brand. But all of you have to remember that at the end of the day, be it a QQ, or a Ferrari, it's still parting with hard earned money.

There are people out there who can just barely afford to buy a car, but they need one because of job, necessity, or family. There are reason why they need the car. But when a statement of Buying a QQ or Picanto, 2-3k more, it seems that the value of money to you forumites don't mean squat to you.

2-3k to you may be nothing, but 2-3k to other people could mean meals on the table for months.

I've been sitting in the backlines and reading how you people trash QQ, car owners, etc etc. I can't help but come forward and post this.

Like what spec said, till the day you own a car, then you'll know the feeling. If people just just barely afford to buy a car, and their choice is to purchase a QQ, so be it. But unnecessary calling it names, well, that's uncalled for.

You pay for what you get. Like what some people here said, maybe the purchased the QQ for just the sole purpose for getting from Point A to Point B. Who knows, maybe that owner has a nice sports car at home?

So don't judge. Even more so for those of you who aren't even working and driving your Dad's or Mum's Cars around. Earn your own pay cheque and buy your own car, and when kids start slamming and calling the car you purchased a CMI one, then you'll know the feeling.

Anti_AhSiah SG

I am driving a red QQ.. how?

casshern SG

in singapore, having a car is a luxury. if u have to scrimp and scrape just to buy a car, that's something not right.

reason for needing a car, how many real reason u can name? with our '1st class' transport system, u are telling me that cars are better? even when u can save that 2-3k that u above mentioned?

if going to be car owners think about that few thousand dollars with the meals on their tables, den its not the time for them to purchase a car. Why? cos in the long run, u will not only spend a few thousand dollars. add up servicing, petrol expenses, parking and summons, road tax, insurance etc.

and even if u die die have to buy a car, i think even a budget car should have some kind of safety features and keep its driver safe. like i say above, even if i have a very tight budget for a car, i wouldnt want to compromise my safety.

BTW, i own a car that's paid with my sweat and blood. so i know how it feels like paying for car expenses

Kr0n SG

Anti AhSiah, Madafaka and Spec, relax. We're not here to pick a fight with you guys, or anyone at all for that matter. Especially when it comes to Tofu, whom if you knew him, I'm sure you'd know he's not that kind of person.

We're not trying to implement any standards or anything along those lines. We're just giving our opinion on that car. I know it might have been something that the owner has worked hard for, but we're not trying to insult his hard work. We're talking about the choice of car here.

Some people, as you have mentioned, worked their asses off to get a car. What we're saying is, if you can afford that 32k, what's another few more thousand spread over that long period during which you are keeping the car? A toyota with a cockpit full of gauges obviously doesn't say "economy", so that's out of point. We understand the convenience that comes with having a personal vehicle, but you guys should also understand what we're trying to say - that the chery is definitely not the way to go, simply because it's a trash car and an effing ripoff, so why are these people still going for it?

If you're going to spend 30+ thousand on a car, because that's about all you can come up with, and you don't even do a little bit of research to see what could be better, then I've really no comment.

The same way you don't like us talking about these cars and their owner's tastes is the same way others might get aggravated because you don't like them for their fortunes. If someone here posts a new mod on his spanking new sports car, you guys won't keep your comments away also. Come on, it's not like we haven't seen you guys at it too.

I admire pluck and hard work as much as you guys do, but that's no excuse for these people not using a little bit of common sense.

Just in case you're wondering, I'm no "ah sia kia" myself. I paid for my own vehicle with my own money.

Cheers.

Kr0n SG

double post.

mhcampboy SG

Laughing

Anti_AhSiah SG

I stand corrected on what u typed below. Are u implying that we possess a tinge of jealousy on people's fortune that we have to resort to aggravation? Sure hell no. It is the blatant display of show off, reckless speeding on the roads and bad examples of kids glorifying such acts that irks us. Money can buy u nice cars but never build character. QQ drivers may have made a bad choice, at least they stand proud in what they can afford. QQ, Picanto or not.

Originally posted by Kr0n:
The same way you don't like us talking about these cars and their owner's tastes is the same way others might get aggravated because you don't like them for their fortunes. If someone here posts a new mod on his spanking new sports car, you guys won't keep your comments away also. Come on, it's not like we haven't seen you guys at it too.[/b]

Kr0n SG

I'm not necessarily saying that you guys are jealous, but there are a lot of people around who simply don't like others because they are better off. I'm pretty sure you've met some like that.

And yes, I do agree that money can buy nice cars but never build character. But that's not quite related to why we don't like the QQ right? Like I've mentioned earlier, we don't like it because it's really a rubbish choice. It's a blatant ripoff and we can't understand why people will still buy it. Imagine someone going off to buy a Slim10 after the court case has proven the company guilty of the charges. Kinda like the same thing, you'd say wtf?

Anti_AhSiah SG

It's THEIR choice, it's THEIR money. What they wanna do to their cars, sticker or not is their business. The postings here havent been very objective. Yes, u may screw its safety standards and quality. But insulting the owners is a bit 2 much. That's my point.

AE86tofu SG

so for that do u want an award?? Laughing

spec SG

Sure. You want to present to us in PML? Or at Vertex?

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