Speak Good English

last SG · 2007-10-25T01:40:46+00:00

Certain people have their own styles . Even if they are bad at english , that doesnt imply that they are school drop outs . Even if they are proud of it ,...

gigabyte14 SG

it's obvious, from the way you are typing

you mentioned yourself that you are observing Rolling Eyes

S.KCH SG

Good. I am glad I finally made you say this. This is also what most of us think. Since I'm not allowed to judge you, what makes YOU so special? So PLEASE don't act high and mighty and judge us based on forum posts.

ALSO, you are SO pretentious it really gets on my nerves. I noticed the use of Singlish in the other topic link that was posted just now. But you conveniently ditch it just so you can bite us in the ass in THIS thread?

"The world doesn't revolve around Singapore. You losers not only fail in the Engish Language. Your standard of Mandarin is half-baked as well..."

This was in one of your first few posts. Notice you already involved Singapore. Since you won't admit to referring to SG as a whole that means you assumed the people here in SGF already represents the whole of SG?

Note to you : Don't write while you are drunk/ or blinded by over-inflated ego so you won't make really inconsistent arguments.

P.S Ok lor. Now I won't judge you based on English. But I fail you based on Logic Smile

S.KCH SG

By the way, this argument is getting really naggy and pointless.

What I HAVE noticed about you, however, is the fake pompous air you have got around you. It only accentuates the insecurity you have as an Asian. You try to erase part of yourself by purposely removing all use of Singlish even when it's evident in another thread it's already somewhat embedded in your poorly written sentences.

This is what I call Stupid Fake Ang Moh

Rolling Eyes

Don't call me dude. In case you haven't realised, your excessive use of that word is very grating.

gigabyte14 SG

i was about to say this leh Laughing

fake ang moh suits her also

she wants to be angmoh that much

S.KCH SG

Ya lor... Some people want to be ang moh suan le... But the thing is she not only tries to forget her roots but turns back to bite us in the ass! Damn irritating. Laughing

Dormito_ger SG

What a retard... Haven't you realised, that there are two distinct writing styles apparent in ONE USER? Haven't you considered the possibility that there may be TWO DIFFERENT PEOPLE behind this nick? I guess I have overestimated not only your language skills, but others as well.

Poorly written sentences? Well, I'm certainly not in some half-baked course like English Literature... Unlike some. =)

S.KCH SG

Haha! Indications that an immature person is losing an argument.

They resort to calling people RUDE names to vent their anger. (Is someone grasping at straws?) Laughing

They also resort to making up really lame excuses for inadequacies.

Oh by the way, failing to consider the VERY REMOTE possibility you mentioned does not make me a retard.

I use very different writing styles in different threads using one single nick in this forum too. Also, please be aware I think very little of your current writing style. But forget that, I suppose I should just agree with you that you are so inflexible and stuck up with a stick-in-the-ass you would NEVER EVER agree to using anything but the purest and most accurate form of English. *Gasp* I'm so sorry if our inadequacies have tainted your Holiness! Laughing

I suppose everything is half-baked to you? Rolling Eyes It's not MY fault You were born SO SUPERIOR to all of us.

P.S I over-estimated your maturity. Halfway through the argument instead of addressing issues that were brought up you just go on to insult people instead of making a proper point. If I were to consider multiple users then that must be your five year old son writing for you now. Pick yourself up and stop embarassing yourself.

Dormito_ger SG

Originally posted by S.KCH:

Haha! Indications that an [b]immature person is losing an argument.

They resort to calling people RUDE names to vent their anger. (Is someone grasping at straws?) Laughing

They also resort to making up really lame excuses for inadequacies.

Oh by the way, failing to consider the VERY REMOTE possibility you mentioned does not make me a retard.

I use very different writing styles in different threads using one single nick in this forum too. Also, please be aware I think very little of your current writing style. But forget that, I suppose I should just agree with you that you are so inflexible and stuck up with a stick-in-the-ass you would NEVER EVER agree to using anything but the purest and most accurate form of English. *Gasp* I'm so sorry if our inadequacies have tainted your Holiness! Laughing

I suppose everything is half-baked to you? Rolling Eyes It's not MY fault You were born SO SUPERIOR to all of us.

P.S I over-estimated your maturity. Halfway through the argument you just go on to insult people instead of making a proper point. Pick yourself up and stop embarrassing yourself.[/b]

Insult people without making a proper point?? Haven't you been reading the posts at all?? I've made several valid points, all of which you were unable to give me a decent reply/challenge to. Instead you go on rambling about your GP grade and all those irrevelant issues. Immature? Oh well... =)

udontknowme SG

what valid points? Rolling Eyes
the only point i see you trying to put across is that singporeans in general have a lousy standard of english (according to you).

where did THAT come from?????

(please dont tell me you got that info from this forum....it doensnt represent the population at all)

absol SG

quote Dormito_ger

"I fail to comprehend WHY, after being educated in English for 10 years (I'm assuming most of you people here have completed at least Primary & Secondary Level), most, if not ALL of you peeps here still can't speak/type proper English."

It seems like you have a very firm command of the English Language.

But I fail to comprehend WHY when you were asking for help, you could type out sentences like "my msn cannot sign in for these past few daes" and "whenever i wanna sign in".

Practise what you preach. If you don't even have a clean record of typing proper English in this forum, you don't really have much authority to go about insulting the current english standard of Singaporeans. If you can't produce proof about the fact that you say there were two users in the same account, you have already lost that arguement.

And it looks like you have forgotten about the older generation, our parents and even our grandparents. Many of our parents only have up till primary/secondary education. We live together in the same house, under the same roof with them for so many years. We get influenced by their dialects and their primary use of the chinese language since young, and that's how our broken english came about. Many of us don't have "ang moh" examples to learn from.

Spoken languages are a habit, and especially since we have spoken singlish/broken english since young. This makes it hard for singaporeans to completely remove the singlish from their speech. If you want good spoken english, you'll have to start young and educate children about the importance of speaking good english (which i doubt they'll even give a damn to). As time passes by, our English standard will definitely get better but never will the roots of Singlish be removed, in the current generation at least.

You might say it's one's choice to speak either proper English or Singlish, but when you're the only one making the effort and nobody else around you does, you're going to seem weird to your circle of friends and be the odd one out. Everybody wants to fit into their circle of friends, nobody likes being the odd one out.

Sure, if you want a better standard of spoken english, arrange for an "ang moh" to be in everyone's house. Example is the way to learn. In this way i'm sure everyone's standard of english will improve by speaking to an "ang moh" everyday.

English lessons were also never very interesting anyways due to the rigid education system where everything is so result-oriented, so I doubt many would actually be paying 100% attention during English lessons to improve their language as they lack the interest and more importantly, there is no motivation/incentive for doing well in the language.

As for the being proud of singlish part, well, if you don't have something better, just make the best out of whatever you have now =)

CUM ON MY FACE SG

now now are we getting retarded here?

CUM ON MOI FC'KEN FACE!

S.KCH SG

You must have a serious case of split personality. Rolling Eyes Please look at your previous reply and TELL ME that you haven't just made a complete fool out of yourself. What kind of

Also I only brought up GP in my *first* post because your elitist ways tell me you judge people critically and that was a way to let your over-sized ego *feel* that my post is even worth your attention. I have AGREED that A1 in GP is nothing but you seem hellbent on getting some dirt out of it with irrelevant rants like moderations? LOL? LOL?

How can I give a decent reply to your incoherent points? LOL You write in a style so bad it mars any relevant points you might have WANTED to make.

I gave evidence you were targetting Singapore in your first posts but you come back with retorts about how "uneducated" SGForumers are? Thanks for conveniently ignoring all common sense and logic. Admittedly I have lost to you in this argument. I can't keep up with this confusion tatic you are employing using a terrible argument style with your convenient yet ever so annoying ability to ignore other people's points with insults regarding their education levels and intelligence.

P.S - You really impressed me with your writing. I haven't seen people calling people retards in arguments since like... Secondary school? How nostalgic (read: Juvenile)

jondizzle foshizzle SG

Yup dormito_ger is probably one of the most arrogant bitches alive. Seems like she hates her own country too.

S.KCH SG

Originally posted by absol:

You might say it's one's choice to speak either proper English or Singlish, but when you're the only one making the effort and nobody else around you does, you're going to seem weird to your circle of friends and be the odd one out. Everybody wants to fit into their circle of friends, nobody likes being the odd one out.

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Haven't you noticed? This person must have tried so hard to fit into her new group of friends overseas she has come to despise her own roots. She is trying so hard to compensate for what she believes are inadequacies.

Noone wants to be the odd one out. Let's start by condemning my dirty tainted Singaporean roots! Anglo-philia is the way to true acceptance and happiness! Laughing

Dormito_ger SG

absol, you have made several valid points. Kudos. Based on your argument, it would be difficult to eliminate the aspect of Singlish/broken English in this generation. Fair enough. But my point is, don't you think that this situation is worsened now? In the past, those who were not so able in the language, probably typed/communicated in broken English. Now, they substitute numbers, NUMBERS for words... What's more, some of them are proud of it... That's what I'm riled up about.

A good example would be this...

I understand that, there are certain "accepted" internet abbreviations, such as, "LOL", "WRU", etc. However today, it has reached a stage whereby you get people typing "ME" as "MI", "IS" as "ISH"... Some claim that this is purely out of fun, well, no offence, but if one types in this manner consistently, chances are that he/she will repeat this in a paper, or while writing up a paper, or even in the course of their work. So what next, substituting dialect, Mandarin or even Malay words in an English exam?

No offence intended to anyone.

S.KCH SG

LOL?No offence *intended*? Then you must be a really nasty person when you mean it. I got seriously offended just by reading your previous posts. Just because you try to make up with a slightly more sensible reply doesn't mean you can conveniently shrug off the fact you made so many unnecessary comments on our level of education and the VERY grating and VERY opinionated statements you made on our country based the internet abbreviations you found here.

Well I'm going to bed for now Mr. Green I'm sure most of us can see for themselves whether they should have a real sense of identity while at the same time maintaining a certain level of English proficiency, or simply become like YOU.

mancha SG

Are you South Indian?

LazerLordz SG

What a laugh.

All the bollocks raised by a poofter girl. Laughing

CUM ON MY FACE SG

is that new? Ang moh is superior! doritoger needs to (whether she likes it or not) bring herself up from her lowly sillyporean roots to the high and classy heights of the angmoh. and she's probably pleasuring some white dix right now, not some sillyporean weenie.

Dendrite88 SG

Interesting thread. I would really LOVE to see if TS is this prissy, arrogant girl real life.

I would prefer verbal debates TS, so if you are free to really "comment" on this "crisis" that we are facing, feel free to drop me a PM and we can debate on the phone or skype or whatever online network you want. I promise you if your arguments make me concede defeat, I will personally write to the editor of Straits Times and make sure your "concerns" are voiced out.

Otherwise, you can continue to tell your Aussie mates that SG is a English forsaken country where everyone communicates through the invented language, Singlish. Just beat us down in front of them, it amuses them a lot too I guess, to see you all so fired up and peeved about our standard of English when you yourself not only used it, your parents probably do too. How about lecturing your parents in the meantime, show them your point... Maybe, just maybe you might be able to break a little "tradition".

I would honestly think that you are either 1) very very emotionally unstable at this point in your life or 2) you just want people in the forum to get riled up and just flame you and you gain some entertainment for yourself.

But I'm awaiting your offer to debate verbally because I would think that with this immense confidence you are showing through the internet... you ought to be BIG & MIGHTY in real life too. So please... feel free to drop me a PM. I am a very good listener and I wont say I give good comments, but at least they are valid ones.

I can assure you of a good time when we are on this topic, you have my word

Cool

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