I, you are always here

last SG · 2007-10-09T15:42:26+00:00

Exactly, and you have no idea what is real and what is not? You cannot tell what is real and what is not? Another delusional in this forum.

AndrewPKYap SG

I said this in ~EH~ where non-christians go after they die

Predictably, a couple of them there thinks that it is funny.

I am under the impression that some people cannot see reality, cannot know reality when reality in hidden behind the obvious.

They take words and the human language as precise, accurate and conceptually perfect.

Think what happens when "no words can describe it"

Even better, think what happens when not just you but the whole of humanity have no idea about the existence (things, concepts, ideas, words) of something.

Not only "no words can describe it" but humanity does not even know that "it" exists. Just like, "I cannot give it a name" but what happens when you do not even know "it" and nobody in this world ever the thought of giving "it" a name because nobody ever knew of its existence.

Please don't make this topic into a cimbo game. Laughing

seotiblizzard SG

erm so wad are u trying to say?

AndrewPKYap SG

You were there or you will be there… is that real?

selfobliged SG

i still dont understand wad u are trying to say

Zarks SG

wtf is this

toyota-corolla SG

Question Confused

AndrewPKYap SG

People take their existence for granted. People take time for granted. People take words for granted and take concepts in their heads for granted.

It is better if you take nothing for granted.

de_middle SG

Neutral Neutral Neutral

AndrewPKYap SG

If we junk the concept of time, not just replace it, what happens?

Co-ordination between living things fails.

Co-ordination fails, nothing else. The universe continues as it is.

This would suggest that other than for co-ordination among living things, the concept of time is useless and in fact, time is not in existence and is an invention of living, sentient beings to better achieve what it wants.

When you say, I was not here at the grocer's, you have to refer to a place and time that is no longer in existence and which existence is debatable.

In order to define the existence of anything, you have to speak of the existence of that something in relation to everything else and you have to speak of the existence of the something over a period of time.

If you have to speak of the existence of something only in relation of everything else, does that something exist? Certainly not in and of itself. It does not exist in itself, by itself.

That would then bring up the question of whether "everything" exists all at once and whether or not something exists, because that something does not exist in itself and by itself.

If you have to talk about existence in reference to a period of time and time does not exist, then the existence become doubtful.

Short Ninja SG

Here ,there and everywhere (in Sgforum)

noahnoah SG

sorry now i still in my dreamland catch no balls Embarassed

now i still in a zombie stage

once i awake 100 percent

then i can catch all the balls liao Laughing

dinky1409 SG

The spoken language is to allow human communication as best as possible.. It can never capture the whole essence of life.. Similarly, how do we truly determine what is a dot/point in space? Wink

An Eternal Now SG

Firewood does not turn into ashes! Very Happy

As Zen Master Dogen said, "... we should not take the view that what is latterly ashes was formerly firewood. What we should understand is that, according to the doctrine of Buddhism, firewood stays at the position of firewood.... There are former and later stages, but these stages are clearly cut."

Every moment is complete and transient, yet unmoving. Changing, changing, yet complete, unmoved. Drop the observer, just the walking, the typing...

But there is no sense of walking while walking, no moving in movement... everything is complete as it is, just This.

...Theres no mind for motion to exist apart from, and no motion for mind to exist apart from. Motion is the minds function, and its function is its motion. Even so, the mind neither moves nor functions, the essence of its functioning is emptiness and emptiness is essentially motionless. Motion is the same as the mind. And the mind is essentially motionless. Hence the Sutras tell us to move without moving, to travel without traveling, to see without seeing, to laugh without laughing, to hear without hearing, to know without knowing, to be happy, without being happy, to walk without walking, to stand without standing...

THE ZEN TEACHINGS OF BODHIDHARMA

oOprinceOo SG

Confused

An Eternal Now SG

Everything we call "the past" is, literally, nothing but present memories. Likewise, everything we call "the future" is nothing but present memories inverted, or rearranged, to form a prediction or expectation. The appearance of "time" is little more than a trick of memory, as the Avatamsaka Sutra (Flower Ornament Scripture) says. You can easily discern this for yourself: simply figure out what it is you consider "the past" and "the future." You will discover that it is nothing but thoughts--nothing but memories, nothing but expectations, nothing but mental commentary. It's "all in your head," so to speak. There's really no such thing as time. There is really only Now--an eternally present Present with no beginning and no ending. Everything is completely new, distinct, and original every instant, with no real "change" or "motion" at all. The mystic-philosopher Heraclitus, explaining this point, said, "A man cannot step in the same river twice."

http://www.buddhistinformation.com/buddhism_and_the_illusion_of_time.htm

An Eternal Now SG

Strangely, someone in EH asked me what is 'An Eternal Now' before.

http://christians.sgforums.com/?action=thread_display&thread_id=150661

kiss_my (_i_) SG

ok, i'm out.

i only knw where am i now, and after finish work.
Laughing

Leon.84 SG

People’s existence gives birth to sorrows. Recognition is also the beginning of misunderstanding. That’s why people have stopped to recognize the existence of one another. They erased them and merged them into one.

angel7030 SG

You lucky liao, at least got balls to catch, for me 100% or not also no ball to catch.

cApitaland SG

you my god you are giving me a headache

i read until the time part den stop liao. Confused

time is just a ruler invented by man to measure how long or short it takes us to do things right.