A B E but no place in University.. Den parent blames Unis..

last SG · 2007-05-29T22:45:44+00:00

Of course go overseas- eg Cambridge, Oxford, MIT, even our Ministers sons don't study here. Get scholarship but if unable to, then study locally cos cheaper.

CoolMyth SG

Ain't the last two, that is, writing skills and analytic ability, needed for Eng Lit as well? Question

Paiseh, never took Lit at A levels. Laughing

ALEX.TO SG

you know, its rather sad to have such things happening. im a victim of this as well and i got a average grade which was neither good enough for uni nor bad enough to be deemed rubbishy grades. and now im going to sim to pursue my degree.

to all those who did not manage to make it to u, all is not lost yet. do not have the impression that if you do not make it to a local u, your hopeless. all the best Very Happy

LazerLordz SG

I did, and it's somewhat different. One may do badly in GP because it is more systemic than Lit. Anyway, our syllabus then, and now, is vastly different.

I was marked badly in school for GP simply for writing in a way different from the encouraged format, but it did give me an A1 in the actual exam.

It could be the school's coaching that led her to do badly under Cambridge grading, because usually the opposite occurs.

Literature benefits those who have already strong ideas and creativity, strong expressive mind and ability to feel and empathise with the analysis of their work.

Rock^Star SG

There's something wrong with Singapore's education system anyway.

Screwed up A Level's can still get one into university but not necessarily an above average Polytechnic student.

What's wrong with ABE? As long as she fits the criteria, I don't see why the local unis cannot place her in a suitable course. Limited places? That's BS. Everyone deserves a shot at good education.

It's just not right to class young Singaporeans in such an unfair way. A student's path is decided right from the time he chooses his subjects combination in Sec 2. How would a 14 year old kid know what he/she wants in life?

Pathetic system. Forgive the ranting. Laughing

Icemoon SG

You don't need to decide then. Just choose something you like and can more or less excel in it.

Under the revamped syllabus, every student is exposed to both science and humanities subjects.

t_a_s SG

pls lah he is a man not auntie

Hogzilla SG

KNN, the simplest way, retake the bloody A lor.

Y complain so much?

raymond_sianz SG

my friend who got a BCD grade still manage to get into art and social science. So i’m not sure what is happening now maybe becos Year of dragon is really damn competitive.

Mewlove SG

Ok Im from the dragon year applying to university this year.

I got ACD - A for maths , C for Physics and D for Chemistry and I was rejected by all the universities.

I chose subjects in NUS some of which are - Arts and social science, industrial design, computing, computer engineering, materials science, chem eng... But all of them are rejected.

I chose these courses in NTU --- Arts design media, materials science, computer science... But all are rejected as well.

I didnt apply to SMU because I was sure I wouldnt be able to get in due to the high demand in its business courses (and I was right - My friend with ABC couldnt get in either).

So now what? Spend tens and thousands on overseas university? Dun say ABE is bad. It "might" not be above average but it definitely is average and surely not below average. My results can get me into Australia National University accountancy, computing, software engineering courses... ranked at least 30-40 ranks higher than NUS in the International university ranking in the world. And the professor whom I talked to told me my results were quite good. Quite good to Australia's top university, not considerable to NUS or even NTU... Seriously???

Seems their cut off point for NUS is ABC or lowest ACC and C for GP and NTU cut off point is ACC.

News in Straits time mentioned that a girl who wasnt even accepted in NUS accountancy was accepted in UK for Law... Cant use CPF for payment, even banks wouldnt even allow her to take a loan to study there. Something is seriously wrong with Singapore's education system. Only limited people mostly tip of the top students get into the course they really want.

The circumstance now is like saying there are too many people trying to get a job and thus let people with a degree do factory work and diplomas sweeping the floors and those from ITE have no job at all. And if someone complaints that people from ITE are above average and should get a job, are you going to rebutt them and say ITE where got above average? And so he shouldnt have a chance for a job? So what happens to those from O levels? People with talents are greatly misplaced! And Singapore have no idea why their talents are all flowing overseas and losing local talent... Seriously...

curryman SG

NUS is ranked 18 ANU is ranked 16..not as bad as u think.....
For thecnology department NUS is ranked number 8 and ANU is out of the lists.

ANU is ranked higher coz it has longer history to develop itself.NUS will surpass it one day. Demand is too tight in local unis here coz there is only one second tier uni which is SIM and AUssie has alot..alot of uni for their population too.

Also...aussie uni is damn easy.....got money y not?if poor like me have to stay in local u....whether u want it or not....hard or easy....ranking or no ranking.

kristovorus SG

dun forget that in some places its actually easier for foreign students to enter the university as compared to local students because a certain number of spaces had been set aside for foreign students which are not really in demand. i know for a fact its easier for singaporeans to get into bei da and qing da in beijing becoz we know chinese, an added bonus

Darkness_hacker99 SG

Crying or Very sad That professor doesn't want to break your heart.

curryman SG

im a foreign student actually Embarassed soory for mentinoning local in my context...but its much harder for foreigners to come in...although there are places allocated...those that come have perfect scores....

lets say for malaysian...which i am...to get into engineering u need at least 3As 1B.....but recently i heard from my junior he cant get into even with that results......

locals much easier to get in..which is the right thing coz its the public's university. foreigns students quota is set at 20pc and this will not enroach into the local quota....both sides are fighting 2 different wars for admission.

798 SG

i felt the gal screwed her GP papers. an E will affected her chance of getting in.

i feel a lot of pple have misconception dat if u r a jc student, u r definitely guarantee a place if u passed ur a level exams. but they forgotten there r alot of students getting good results these few years. somemore uni have started to take in more poly students n oversea students, this will cause the intakes for jc students to be getting lesser n lesser.

Mewlove SG

Yeah... All you could probably be right. MAYBE NUS will take over ANU, MAYBE the professor really just does not want to break my heart, MAYBE ANU is not as good as NUS in some sectors, MAYBE some things I said may not be true in the future... But what you cant deny is that:

1: They have a guide (cut off point) of those applying (ALL STUDENTS including their own local students) and I am qualified to enter about half of the courses there but for courses like law and medicine or pharmacy, their required grades are at least AAB and ABB correspondently. Hence its not about being easier to enter due to the 10% statistics. You have to meet the requirements. Their 10% could well be those who meet the cut off of the australians have to compete to enter and at the 10% mark, the rest will be cut off. If the requirements are not met, the numbers could well be less than 10%. And being higher rank because it has longer history is not in the calculations in the THES system I presumed you used as a guide.

2: This year is really competitive even if the officials thinks otherwise. There is something wrong that Singaporeans who are offered a place in law in UK university not allowed even in Accountancy in Singapore. Lets take her results to be ABB since her mother says she got A's and B's. She cant even get into accountancy? But is able to get in law in UK university? No matter how flexible the system of the university is, there should not be a university in UK that allows people with crap or even ordinary results to get into a highly sought after course like Law, but she was offered a place.

By the way, curryman, your friend cant get into engineering with 3A's and 1B for engineering course? What engineering course did he apply for? Local universities only calculate the admission score with 3 GCE 'A' levels, but with another one is only an advantage with 'S' paper is an even added advantage. Means your friend has a perfect score?

Kuali Baba SG

Rolling Eyes

motoway SG

er... Ur grades.. definately cant go into Arts media and design.. Btw, ur grades are as good as a BCC, which is not veri good btw..

may i noe ur GP btw? My bro fren CCC B4 get into engine leh...

curryman SG

dude cool down,

a) i said ANU had a longer history(time) to develop its uni comapred to the infant NUS which in the 1960s was still MU(university of malaya)

b)my fren is malaysian. so am I. its not easy to get a place in NUS for us. coz PRCs are the priority now. my fren had 3A and 1B STPM(malaysian A level) im not sure which engineering he applied but surely more than 2 engineerings.

c)so what if ur results can get into foreign Uni but not local Uni. do u know that most UK and US universities are rubbish with the exception of the ivy leagues and the OXbridge. My malaysian fren didnt even secure an interview with law NUS and he got into law London School of Economics..the fact that he is not that bright explains it all. Foreign unis lowered the admission requirement for foreigners to get tuition fees....the case is different in singapore. most pple would want to apply to local uni coz its cheap and can withdraw CPF to fund it...foreigeners get loans easily too...more demand therefore hard to get a place compared to UK /US uni. alot of my freens get IVY leagues but stayed in NUS coz no money.

Ashearo SG

Im from a mid tier JC and this year there were more than 200 students with AAAs. Now ABE will not be considered an average anymore would that? Things change every year.

Ashearo SG

Thats not true. Med school accepts students with 3As as well. The fact is almost all the students accepted into Med school have 3As at least. Prolly the same for those shortlisted for interviews. NUS Med school will not reveal why we didnt make it into med school. Simply put, it is more likely that he didnt do well for his essay and interview.

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