Death by hanging and the firing squad

last SG · 2007-06-03T16:25:42+00:00

how about tripping over something then die?like the one in scary movie 4 de

Fatum SG

then you've only a one sided perspective of punishment and crime .... punishing criminals is not just about rehabilation, in some cases it is NOT about rehabilation, but removing a menace to society.

newcomer SG

You should talk to John Malkovich on this issue.

ICanOnlyHope SG

I still support firing squad instead of hanging bcos the bullet will shatter in the brain and cause instant death. It is not to the torso like in computer games but to the back of the head. The mess can easily be wiped up or they can execute in the field and dig a hole first in front of them and then bury them as they fall in dead. How clean and efficient. The govt can easily pay for the bullets bcos why they collect taxpayer’s money for? Hanging is still one of the most cruel forms of execution. I would like to hear from those who are working in the execution room of our police. I heard no criminal could walk straight upon seeing the noose. Why subject them to such great fright? In the case of firing squad, it’s not so fearful i think cos the gun fires from the back not front and it’s fast. I still think hanging is to scare and i must admit it really scares would be criminals. You hear many movie characters say “yi qiang bi le wo” – one shot to kill me. That’s all it takes-one shot! How happy! People even kill lame horses etc with one shot to the head to minimise its suffering. I also support lethal injection bcos i think doctors will be there to inject some anaethesia but i could be wrong.

oxford mushroom SG

Haha...where did you hear this nonsense from? In judicial hanging there is a fracture of the second cervival vertebra (bilateral fractures of the pedicles), tearing of the ligaments and with distraction (separation) between the the first and second cervical vertebrae. The cervical spinal cord is severed.

There is no compression of the trachea (windpipe) possible for a simple reason, the fracture is too high and roughly corresponds to the level of the larynx, which is above the trachea. In any case, the cartilaginous rings of the trachea will maintain the patency of the airway.

How do you know? Have you tried it? Laughing

Twitches are an involuntary response...does not mean there is pain. Ever tried cutting off the head of a chicken. The body can not only twitch but sometimes the headless chicken can run around a bit as well. Judicial hanging is akin to decapitation...the spinal cord is severed from the brain.

I do not know if it is painful but I have no problem if it is....just punishment for crime. It's the pain of their victims I worry about.

.Blank SG

last time is chop head down u want?

bananaking SG

chopping head is gross and cause a big mess..but i prefer the injection !

Fatum SG

so which would be the best method (other than messy shooting) ... to preserve the chaps' organs for donation ? ....

hmmm ... let's see ....

1 x heart
1 x liver
2 x kidneys

and a bonus pair of eyeballs too ...

that's four lives + one sight from one chap .... the fellow may just score some brownie points with the big guy upstairs eh ....

ShutterBug SG

This is what I read from the net, wherein description of how a person expires were graphic and it does implies axphyxiation

... so in your nkowledge, if the fracture is too low, or lower, it is POSSIBLE to compress against the trachea?

M551Sheridian SG

hanging better?cos the body still have can give the family do funeral for him?
shoot liao no face how ? later body mixed up

ICanOnlyHope SG

Can always have a tag on their hand like in hospitals so won't mix up.

kalangkabo SG

i read somewhere that if the criminal doesn't die after the 1st execution attempt, he is set free?

i suppose the guillotine is the only sure-fire (sorry for the pun) way of execution... in all other methods, there is a probabilty of failure
have not heard of anyone walking around w/o his or her head...

but then again, some religion or race (especially older chinese) frown on not having a "complete body" after u die - "si wu quan shi"

sun8 SG

I dun really agree hanging to death and firing, maybe life time in prison is good enough..

jedditte SG

somehow this like become GP topic: for or against death penalty

imo i don't agree. they have been the scums of the society and w/o death penalty they will be leeching off the society again. taxpayers' money will be used to feed them.

come on. if you know the consequences then why commit the act in the first place? you pay for what you do. simple enough.

digicharat SG

death by hanging i heard is a very messy death.
the person kanna hang, the tongue will stick out long long and he will shit and pee in his pants. some even say will ejaculate.

bananaking SG

singapore's space will be soon used up by these death row criminals..also..the death sentence can also be used as a warning to warn off those people who are commiting crimes that are punishable by death...these will let them know that there will be consequences in the things they will be doing..sos hanging will be the best way to settle things..

Short Ninja SG

[quote]Originally posted by digicharat:
death by hanging i heard is a very messy death.
the person kanna hang, the tongue will stick out long long and he will shit and pee in his pants. some even say will ejaculate.[/quote

Yes if people try to do it themself using a grandmother knot around their neck.

Short Ninja SG

That one was long time ago but now the Judge would say "Hang until you die" so how to escape?

Pitot SG

Laughing

sun8 SG

Like to check with u, hv u ever know tat something is wrong yet u do it ? not everyone knows the law as well as u. Can list down all those tat will hv death penalty?

jedditte SG

erm, know sth is wrong yet i do it? yes. that's in army.and now still am. the eighth golden army rule holds anyway. do but don't get caught. if you are caught, good luck.

not exactly that i know the law per se. been into the engineering field since 3 years ago and i return all my info back to my gp tutor 6 years back.

but from the articles in the papers, some of the most common offences are like drug trafficking(above/below the limit for death penalty). No ill intentions, but it's like even for foreigners who travel to singapore, there are reminders that drugs are strictly forbidden here and the offence is punishable by death.

Yet we still have people trying to smuggle drugs into singapore. a good example is the australian-born vietnamese who was hanged some time back. shall not go into details.

a rarer case is the illegal possession and discharge of firearms. self explanatory. example will be the one-eyed-dragon.

so, point here is; know the country's law well enough. if you get caught you can't claim ignorance. live by the law. if not suffer from the consequences.

btw, you can check out the Singapore Penal Code. It lists the offences that are punishable by death.

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