AWOL

Cosmic freako SG

gunner77 SG

Underpaid SG

Don’t worry, it’s only 1 day DB for 2 days AWOL IIRC.

alize SG

Far worse, my friend. In my unit, people went AWOL for one day and went DB for a week.

Underpaid SG

Strange. Was there any other factors involved? My info was off the summary punishments page that was posted up in the office. Unless he went Court Martial instead of Summary, which is also possible, but it would be strange for a 1 day DB case to make such a big mess, unless he really pissed someone off.

alize SG

Don't think so, just an average joker who called back saying he had MC that day, next day came and admitted no MC. He was charged with AWOL. He was in DB 5 days since weekends are taken off. Botak.

I heard from clerks that when people go AWOL like this, there is no discretion over the sentence but officers can choose the charge to impose. I heard of one guy who did the exact same thing, they didn't want him to go DB so they charged him with malingering, he got SOL.

QX179R SG

get ready to extend ORD date loh..

northindsg89 SG

I also AWOL during NS time; kena 3 days. ORD LO!

weasel1962 SG

Army record not official police record....after army = no issue.

alize SG

anyone sharp eyed enough will notice enlistment/ord dates. but nobody in the private sector looks at the ord cert anymore.

weasel1962 SG

anyone sharp eyed enough will notice enlistment/ord dates. but nobody in the private sector looks at the ord cert anymore.

Can't tell if its just 3-7 days longer. There are also those that volunteer to stay on for a short while longer e.g. for special events like NDP or overseas deployment.

Shorter also possible due to birth days (17 years old when entering NS). Measuring ord date not so easy.

alize SG

But then you would have to lie. Anyway there are so many other key criteria in hiring, DB is not important.

The actual stay may be harsh, but the career aspect is just something to scare soldiers into subservience and prep them for a lifetime in Singapore.

weasel1962 SG

But then you would have to lie.

No one ever checks much less asks...lost my ord cert years ago, no recruiter has ever asked.

alize SG

Weasel, ask you: exactly how mobile is the Bloodhound SAM system if you have to move it?

weasel1962 SG

Weasel, ask you: exactly how mobile is the Bloodhound SAM system if you have to move it?

The Bloodhound is not a mobile system i.e. fixed and definitely can't be fired on the move.

To load/move the missile, I would think one would need a hoisting crane + flatbed truck. Was never in 170 sqn though...its one big mf. They used a hoisting crane for the I-hawk as well to load it.

alize SG

I'm guessing unless you had a super deferment, it could have been the only missile your unit fired in Taiwan.

I'm wondering how they did live fire. Singapore was one of the last countries to operate it. If they didn't move it, they must have bought and fired other countries' missiles that would otherwise go to waste retired. Rent the whole site and radar too.

weasel1962 SG

I'm not aware of any livefire of the bloodhound. If Singapore did do a bloodhound livefire outside Singapore, it would be in the UK since Australia got rid of theirs in 1968 before Singapore established 170 sqn in 1970 (see the link...) Swiss, the only other user, had no mil relations with SG.

There are a lot of difficulties with missile live-fire in Singapore. Thats why most of it is done overseas. Singapore had only 50 bloodhounds so I doubt if that many were spent on livefires...

alize SG

I am also not aware, but surely the crews had to be trained. Both these countries could either fire from their bases or have a training site at their practice range. We could have borrowed them, even a retired but working site.

Btw, Bloodhound was designed but not adopted as a battlefield SAM that could be moved with difficulty, just like SA-2.