Do you feel better defending Singapore in this way?

askandanswer SG

We all know that Singapore is a little red dot. So, its resources is limited and its neighbours not very friendly. Some people may disagree with me in this but I think the rest will agree. So, we must defend it at all costs.

However, if the enemy were to attack, we will most probably still worry right? This is because while we are fighting in the front, our families back home are threatened. Enemy war planes will fly to Singapore and bomb it and enemey missiles will fly and hit it.

So, do you think you will feel better when you are fighting the battle upfront that your family is far far away, maybe in Australia? When you are fighting the enemy in the battlefield, your family is sleeping in Australia or Canada and having a party. Do you think this is a better way of fighting? Then you need not worry whether enemy planes bomb your flat or bomb your housing estate.

Agree?

askandanswer SG

Imagine, when the enemy is right in front and you have to defend your country. And your family in Australia koon, enjoy or makan. Do you feel happier?

If my family in Australia or Canada, I will sure able to fight and defend my country with no worries. I will most probably stay on and fight and give up my life doing it even if I'm 99.

granslime SG

I think i got a better solution. Family all stay and sleep and enjoy in Singapore. We bring the battlefield overseas. Simple right? Lol

Underpaid SG

lol congratuations granslime, you just described forward defence Razz

alize SG

A state of emergency is declared before war starts. Even if airlines are still flying, your family will not be able to leave Singapore on them.

I'm sure that ways and means have been devised to ensure you fight hard.

RalliartTurbo SG

So we are all stuck here and have no choice but to fight while some will be evacuated safely out of the country...

Hitman Factory 1 SG

I think i got a better solution. Family all stay and sleep and enjoy in Singapore. We bring the battlefield overseas. Simple right? Lol

that s fantasy.good as finding gold nuggets in kallang river.

the proximity from spore to neighboring countries warrant a massive artillery barrage lasting for 3 hrs or more destroying on all spore urban areas.dont forget that the enemy would be invading and not spore invading so the enemy would have pointed like 70 over artillery guns at all the buildings in spore and amassed enough to cause damage in spore.by the time spore mobilised forces it would be too late as trains would have been struck,trainlines demolished,roads will be destroyed,people will be panicking,all major buildings will be destroyed.

you would be lucky u dont get killed on way back to report n collect arms from army camp from artillery shelling each central town location.and how do u get to camp without a train?car?u rich enough ?bicycle?

and which taxi wants to do business when entire roads and towns are being shelled and craters created everywhere and demolishings roads?u going to offer taxi $100 to get to your camp?

perhaps u could run back to camp which is 10km or so away from u since theres no mrt train and working train tracks and taxis and cars.best u ride a bicycle back to camp 10km away in middle of artillery firing and exploding everywhere in spore.

somehow the generals hadnt thought of everything.

Itedino SG

why attack singapore??

First, Singapore no natural defense and no natural resouces. Our natural resouces is human. War either die or run away. Come here for what. Not enluff food or water. Steal Money?? war money is worthless.

if malaysia or indonesia attack us, seriously either they are stupid or something is wrong with them. I see no reason they attack us. They might end up feeding us more and rebuilt the building in CBD. their tank put ERP k. haha.

War come just surrender. At least we got common market. You see malaysia how tough also minority control their economy compare to bumiputra

Hitman Factory 1 SG

u are supposed to report back to camp in 1 hr but due to non-stop shelling for 3 hrs...............seems like mnany destroyed buildings, broken mrt tracks and damagwed roads.

Hitman Factory 1 SG

why attack singapore??

War come just surrender. At least we got common market. You see malaysia how tough also minority control their economy compare to bumiputra

its like some instances where a kid sees another kid eating a ice cream.one with no ice cream will flip ice cream cone of the other kid on the ground.so that the other without would feel happier.

countries n even adults are very much the same.as long as u have sometrhing..they will try to destroy u so that u wont be higher than them.the pap speaks for itself and so does the atttitude of most ugly singaporeans.

Itedino SG

why shell 3hrs. Stuff us to death will do. Internally people start killing each other for food and water.Destroy bridge, Throw poison into our water. Less than 3 days, we will die. Girl die within 1 day cos no make up and no kate spate to buy.

Hitman Factory 1 SG

humans are imperfect.hardly a decade,century has gobe by without wars and stupidity.

Hitman Factory 1 SG

because they know it will be harder building up a cbd with all of the beautiful buildings demolished by artillery fire and its effect would last a decade in rebuilding and $$$$$ spent.poison in water could be done by artillery as well.

Underpaid SG

Itedino, that was what the Japs did in WWII and I suspect it’ll work as well now as then, which means that the SAF needs to do a breakout and prevent any blockade from forming. Easier said than done though. Which is why the standard SAF doctrine is preemptive assault and forward defence.

BTW, 3 hr shelling is impractical unless you did a LOT of prep work before hand with logistics, the kind that can be detected by recon plane and sat easily. Hitman’s too pessimistic. Besides, with today’s precision munitions, anyone wasting an expensive round on random roads and not a military target is going to get his ass reamed by his OC.

Itedino SG

The jap came here. They regret. Nothing. Harbour full of weakage. What they do. Wasted man power here only to screw local girl. That why nowadays our singapore mei mei look like jap. quite chio also. Sarong party girl.

Hitman Factory 1 SG

and why is a 3hr impossoble.to destroy n cripple a country for a decade.that is the cheapest way.theres the train stations,train visducts at 10 points,cbd,so many goody places to shell artllery for 3 hrs.

if enemy is determined to invade n destroy spore....3 hr artillery shelling in prime areas is a basement bargain effort.

artillery rounds are not precision.its old fashioned cheap dumb ammo.cheaper than sending a battalion out to invade even.

anyway no one would be returning in 3hrs of shelling to army camp directed also at residential areas n bus depots n mrt stations.then what???stuck at home???army camp 10km away.

Hitman Factory 1 SG

there are alreasdy 100 artillery guns pointed at spore.no one can do anything except wait for 3 hr artillery shelling.unless u get dsta to build an artilery defence shield.

Underpaid SG

Well, this proves Hitman was never in an arty unit.

You want 3 hr shelling, you got to carry 3 hrs worth of 155mm shells per gun. 6 guns per battery, 40 rounds per hour sustained, 240×3 = 720 rounds at 43kg each = 30,960kg.
(Using the US M102 round) NOT including propellent charge addons.

Approximately 30 tons of shells per battery. And people have to HAUL it to the gun and not just have it sit in the 3 tonner. With your 70+ guns, it’s ~2.1 MILLION tons and lots of 3-tonners. And 100+ 3-tonners running around is a VERY obvious target. And using 2 megatons of shells on non-military targets is an obvious waste, especially when said military units are going to climb up your ass when you start shelling.

And I’ve to really ask you Hitman, you talk about arty, but do you KNOW what the range of a 155mm is? It’s not as long ranged as you think, so the area to deploy 100 guns is incredibly limited. And area needs to be clear too, don’t want your shell to hit a tree going out. That limits deployment areas. So, NO, there are NOT 100 guns sitting in Johor City aimed at Singapore.

Underpaid SG

As an intellectual exercise, some of you readers might want to go check out the ranges of arty pieces that we/ Malaysia use. It might be a surprise to you.

SG:
120mm SRAM
155mm Pegasus SLWH
155mm Primus
HIMARs

MY:
FH-70
G5
ASTROS

weasel1962 SG

Well, this proves Hitman was never in an arty unit.

There's also the super-old Mod 56 105mm but I don't think the tubes can sustain a 3 hr bombardment. Agreed, no MY arty units within range of Singapore. MY 3 Div + 2RAD/61 RAD are located in Johor though.

The math needs to be corrected though. Its only 31 tons for a 6 gun bty. 60 guns = 310 tons or 310,000 kg. Charges are about 12.92 kg per charge. Further range = more charges needed (max for 155mm charge 8?). Also fuzes needed at ~1.5kg per fuze.

What I like about SG is pallet containerisation. 8x155mm shell pallet = 355kg. Charge pallet = 48 charges = 620 kg. Fuze pallet = 600 fuzes = 920 kg. So every 8 rounds ~1 ton. 7200 rounds roughly requires 900+ tons. Each container carries 20-30 tons so its 30-50 container trucks worth. SG got over 4000+ container trucks in commercial service.

SG-MY not going to fight one another (except on the football field).