SOME MALAYSIAN INSULT SG FORCE!

last SG · 2011-05-19T23:01:01+00:00

Why the hate? I lol at both sides XD

Gaosung SG

the chances of SG going to war with china is virtually zero

but the chances of northern and southern trying to eat us is all along exisitng...

alize SG

What are they talking about? What ever applies to the Malay Muslim also applies to any Chinese or Indian.

You think a Chinese, who has secret society will be ignored, while a Malay will be marked.

A Malay that prove himself, has no obstruction.

In Malaysia, it is blatantly not so for non-Malays.

How to prove yourself as a pilot or ground crewman when not even admitted to training?

I never say Malaysia no discrimination. I am saying Singapore got discrimination.

weasel1962 SG

the chances of SG going to war with china is virtually zero

but the chances of northern and southern trying to eat us is all along exisitng...

Ermmm...China's basis of claim over the South China Sea can actually be applied as easily to SG.... The whole region at some point in time paid homage to Chinese suzerainty.

The basis why Japan attacked Singapore in 1942 can also be used on the same grounds to justify the chinese war risk. Only a civilian can afford to ignore that. Having said that, it doesn't mean SG wants a war with China.

btw, Singapore has had malay pilots since 1992 including F-16 pilots. The policy has changed from the past. Becoming a fighter pilot is already difficult (1 in 1000 or more), to have race being an issue. Its ultimately self defeating.

Gaosung SG

better be safe than sorry

alize SG

Ermmm...China's basis of claim over the South China Sea can actually be applied as easily to SG.... The whole region at some point in time paid homage to Chinese suzerainty.

I think Singapore has more to fear from Chinese spies picking up some US/Israeli technology from the RSAF.

Btw do we still have troops in Starlight at this point?

Perhaps the Malay pilot is singular and symbolic. In all my RSAF experience never ever seen a Malay pilot or ground crew.

tripwire SG

I do see Chinese soldiers and even officers when I am in Malaysia.

Only one particular infantry regiment is exclusive to Malays. By contrast, Malays are barred from so many units here.

according to official malaysia figures, there are only about 300+ chinese in MAF. please feel free to correct me if you got the actual figures.

secondly, its NOT one regiments in MAF that is exclusive to malays, the exclusive malay only Royal Malay Regiments or commonly known as the RMR or RMAD, consists of dozens of regiments and practically makes up almost 75% of malaysia army, it is COMPLETELY EXCLUSIVELY malays. this is necessary because the first role of RMR is to defend the malay's rights in malaysia, understandbly the MAF cannot trust another race to defend the unequal privilege and special rights that malays currently enjoy under the malaysian constituition.

The Royal Malay Regiment (Malay: Rejimen Askar Melayu DiRaja) is the premier unit of the Malaysian Army's two infantry regiments. At its largest, the Malay Regiment comprised 27 battalions. At present, two battalions are parachute trained and form part of the Malaysian Army Rapid Deployment Force. Another battalion has been converted into a mechanized infantry battalion while the remaining battalions are standard light infantry. The 1st Battalion Royal Malay Regiment acts as the ceremonial battalion for the Yang di-Pertuan Agong, and is usually accompanied by the Central Band of the Malay Regiment.

As its name suggests, the regiment only recruits ethnic Malays.

tripwire SG

I think Singapore has more to fear from Chinese spies picking up some US/Israeli technology from the RSAF.

Btw do we still have troops in Starlight at this point?

Perhaps the Malay pilot is singular and symbolic. In all my RSAF experience never ever seen a Malay pilot or ground crew.

let me name you at least 2 malay pilots in the RSAF. and i challenge you to name me 2 chinese pilots in RMAF.

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ONLY one in a thousand makes it as a fighter pilot in the Republic of Singapore Air Force (RSAF), and Lieutenant Yusri Abu Bakar, 25, not only made the cut but also secured the distinction of becoming the first Malay Singaporean fighter pilot.

The young lieutenant got his wings in October 2001 and completed his F-16 training a year later.

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The KC-135 deployment was part of Singapore's on-going contributions to the multinational reconstruction efforts in Iraq and Afghanistan. During its deployment, the detachment conducted around 350 hours of air-to-air refuelling in support of the coalition forces.

At the ceremony, the KC-135 Detachment Commander, Lieutenant-Colonel Zakir Hamid, said, “We completed all the missions assigned to us successfully. We also gained valuable operational experience by working with some of the most advanced air forces in the world."

alize SG

according to official malaysia figures, there are only about 300+ chinese in MAF. please feel free to correct me if you got the actual figures.

As its name suggests, the regiment only recruits ethnic Malays.

Firstly, I wish not for this to be an argument. I did not say Malaysia does not discriminate, but I can show evidence it does not.

Secondly, I can show you more Chinese pilot offers than you can count. I personally took this pic at the memorial at the RMAF museum at TUDM Sungai Besi, KL. There are 17 Chinese names I marked with red dots (and 5 Indian names marked with blue) out of a total of 84. Also note that the ranks are very evenly distributed. Chinese pilots make 20% of the RMAF, which matches the racial composition of Malaysia, which does not suggest discrimination. (Indians make up 6%).

Thirdly, I would correct you because there are 25 active battalions in the RMR (+2 reserve). At 800 men a battalion, that is 18% of 110K soldiers of the Malaysian army. There are also other corps(formations) in the army, and also the air force and navy. So I'm not sure where your figure of RMR making up 75% of the army is cited from.

I would say don't think all countries are out to get your race, the truth is out there. In fact, Malaysia and us will likely be on the same side in war against the most probable aggressor.

tripwire SG

Firstly, I wish not for this to be an argument. I did not say Malaysia does not discriminate, but I can show evidence it does not.

I would say don't think all countries are out to get your race, the truth is out there. In fact, Malaysia and us will likely be on the same side in war against the most probable aggressor.

forget your museum list, that was in the past prior to the "malaynization" of the MAF. try and look at the present RMAF and tell me how many chinese pilots are there NOW!

there are 25 RMR battalion, even having one is gross racial discrimination, can you justify having 25 exclusive malays only battalions?

according to the official malaysia ministry of defence figure for 2010, there are total of only 397 chinese and indians are fast dropping below 1,000 in numbers.

in 2008 malays consist of 88.8% of MAF with 9.3% aboriginis from east malaysia, the total chinese and indian soldiers in MAF is less then 2%!!!

and if there is war, we wont be fighting side by side, just pray we wont be fighting against each other.

alize SG

forget your museum list, that was in the past prior to the "malaynization" of the MAF. try and look at the present RMAF and tell me how many chinese pilots are there NOW!

there are 25 RMR battalion, even having one is gross racial discrimination, can you justify having 25 exclusive malays only battalions?

according to the official malaysia ministry of defence figure for 2010, there are total of only 397 chinese and indians are fast dropping below 1,000 in numbers.

in 2008 malays consist of 88.8% of MAF with 9.3% aboriginis from east malaysia, the total chinese and indian soldiers in MAF is less then 2%!!!

and if there is war, we wont be fighting side by side, just pray we wont be fighting against each other.

When you challenge me to show you 2 Chinese pilots, I show you 17 of equal ranks from 1967 to 2004 you don't believe.

I should challenge you to show your "official MOD source" instead of just saying it. If you claim a "malaynisation" over these years you should also show it. Otherwise don't blow hot air.

I already pointed out your mistake/lie. You took 27 active+reserve RMR battalions against 9 active-only RRD battalions to get your faulty 75% figure. Conveniently ignoring the other branches of the army. Then you conveniently applied this percentage to describe the whole army, navy and air force.

The problem is that only kids can laugh at SAF soldiers wearing specs. But any thinking adult can laugh at your claim. You might as well claim that 81 of 87 Singaporeans support the PAP.

tripwire SG

When you challenge me to show you 2 Chinese pilots, I show you 17 of equal ranks from 1967 to 2004 you don't believe.

I should challenge you to show your "official MOD source" instead of just saying it. If you claim a "malaynisation" over these years you should also show it. Otherwise don't blow hot air.

The problem is that only kids can laugh at SAF soldiers wearing specs. But any thinking adult can laugh at your claim. You might as well claim that 81 of 87 Singaporeans support the PAP.

listing a bunch of pilots name all the way back from 1967!!! i am not even born and i doubt many of them are still alive, maybe that is why you see their names in the MUSEUM!!

which planet have you been living on all these years???

The Malaysian military's most striking characteristic is that, unlike its neighbors. It is an important social function of the military to insure Malay political dominance. The highest ranks of the military are composed of ethnic Malays, as are a majority of those who serve under them. The military's controversial role in establishing order following the May 1969 urban rebellion further emphasizes the political function of the institution as one supporting the Malay-dominated ruling coalition.

alize SG

Before you insult me, maybe you should re-check if you've read a damned thing. Maybe you wanna go suck on your mother's testicles.

Has it occurred to you that Chinese will hardly join except as officers if they are way ahead in terms of income?

Or that a Malay army is hardly needed to maintain order, as if the 22% Chinese are likely to try anything funny in a country where they and their families live surrounded by Malays?

I doubt you even know that the Malays rioted against the Chinese in 1969.

Unlike you I don't twist facts to misrepresent numbers in order to further my own moronic agenda.

I found this quote that is very relevant to you: I believe your battle-stance attitude to posting on a free forum is part of your forum issues... After awhile you have to figure that it's not all of the forum owners and poster's that make up the problems you devise for yourself... Floating from forum to forum complaining, insulting the owner, demanding and proclaiming them failures is a very telling pattern of behavior.

tripwire SG

Before you insult me, maybe you should re-check if you've read a damned thing. Maybe you wanna go suck on your mother's testicles.

Has it occurred to you that Chinese will hardly join except as officers if they are way ahead in terms of income?

Or that a Malay army is hardly needed to maintain order, as if the 22% Chinese are likely to try anything funny in a country where they and their families live surrounded by Malays?

I doubt you even know that the Malays rioted against the Chinese in 1969.

Unlike you I don't twist facts to misrepresent numbers in order to further my own moronic agenda.

save your testicles comment for yourself.

if you cant face up to the facts... get lost.

alize SG

save your testicles comment for yourself.

if you cant face up to the facts... get lost.

It is you who are blind to the facts and twist them like the liar and fraud you are.

tripwire SG

It is you who are blind to the facts and twist them like the liar and fraud you are.

you mean the malaysian constiuition on special malay rights are a lie?

or you implying the racial breakdown figures of MAF provided by malaysia ministry of defence in malaysian parliament a fabricated lie?

you want to check with PERKASA, UTUSAN or UMNO first?

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