NS Issue: coming back this wednesday. Need advice asap!!!

last SG · 2010-08-17T16:28:32+00:00

SUBMARINES,IMMIGRATION,LIFESTYLE OF RICH N FAMOUS.....HARD TO SEE FER GED AND SOUL RAG.ALL I SEE ARE THEM SELLING DURIANS AND RICE OUTSIDE SOME HARBOUR.

Weihungchew88 SG

I need serious advice here. I am a 21 years old Singaporean citizen and living abroad. I emigrated to Holland a few years ago to skip the National Service. I am not unsupportive of NS and I think it is a good training for young men and to serve the nation. But to force it upon us and leaves us with no alternatives, I think that really is against human rights. Anyways, I am coming back to SG this Wednesday to visit my family. Do you think I can fool the SG border control with my Dutch passport? Any advice is welcome!!!

Pitot SG

How can you have a dutch passport if you are not a dutch citizen? And how can you hold dual citizenship?

Lokey SG

U r now a tourist.

Welcome to Singapore!

Obersturmfuhrer SG

How few is a few years? When you left, I assume you would have applied for the mandatory Exit Permit?

Unless you left before age 11 and have renouced your citizenship, chances are you're screwed when you arrive. Good luck.

"National service-liable males who migrated from Singapore before age 11 and have not enjoyed significant socio-economic benefits of citizenship (e.g., applied for a Singapore identity card or studied in Singapore beyond the age of 11) are allowed to renounce their Singapore citizenship if they do not wish to fulfill their NS obligations. They will be required to register for national service with Central Manpower Base and apply for deferment from full-time NS until the age of 21, pending the renunciation of their Singapore citizenship. They can continue to make short social visits to Singapore and will not be required to serve NS if they renounced their citizenship at age 21.

http://statutes.agc.gov.sg/non_version/cgi-bin/cgi_retrieve.pl?actno=REVED-93&doctitle=ENLISTMENT%20ACT%0A&date=latest&method=part&sl=1

dragg SG

if you have already emigrated then you are not a citizen.

why would the authority bother you?

the_fallen SG

if you want to completely skip NS, get ready to give up your Singapore Citizenship as Singapore doesn't allow dual citizenships, young adults reaching 21yrs old must decide which citizenship they want in life, if they want to stay as Singaporean, they must serve NS.

There's no two way about it.

Hugh Hefner SG

Why so scared of NS? It is like holiday lar. Got Ice cream and we get to stay in bungalow lots. So fun man, I get to be the tank gunner.

Hwaimeng SG

i was from civil defend and there is 1 case in our unit

this moron was a indian and he leave Singapore to India and live there for 30+ years

1day he return to Singapore at age 42 and the moment he enter Singapore Airport , he was sent to the Office and police come and pick him up. he was sentence to court and was sent to Civil Defend to completed his National Service because he is still a Singaporean.

the oldest recuite at age 42 was in my unit. whole day do nothing except walking around the camp. he too old to do BMT, so he was assign to clean the whole area.

You are at age 21, i dont know about your suitation

sgdiehard SG

I hope you are serious when you ask for serious advice.

You hold a dutch passport but still call yourself singaporean citizen?

Do you think you can "fool the SG border control"? your dutch passport real one or fake one? you can try and good luck.

Cut all those crap about NS "a good training for young men and to serve the nation" when you actually emigrate to skip NS. and stop abusing the term "human rights".

SBS2601D SG

You went to holland to "skip NS" but think its "good training"?

And what human rights issue do you have about NS?

sgdiehard SG

You will be caught and charged for AWOL as soon as you arrives. Better to meet your family in JB. That is a serious advice.

fudgester SG

As others have pointed out, if you had not renounced your citizenship before the age of 11, you're as good as screwed.

The most likely scenario would be that you will be arrested at the airport and be charged in court. You can be jailed (though a fine is more likely) and you will be made to serve the 2 years of NS since you're not overaged. I'm not trying to scare you; I'm just stating the facts for what they are.

Anyway, I seriously don't understand you. You say that you support NS, but in the very next sentence you say that it is against human rights.

105090 SG

remember to fill in your "white card" before immigration

dukedracula SG

you didn't renouce citizenship here so you are still liable...as for the dutch passport, just maybe...i noticed they scan local passports but not foreign ones, so you may get away...the point about ns is to serve out that 2 yrs, its not a forced thing per se, it's just a duty, if no one serves, then we'd be at the mercy of our neighbours....

Gedanken SG

There's a second possible problem. If he's renewed his passport since getting Dutch citizenship, he would have fraudently completed the section in the renewal form about having taken up another citizenship.

And yeah, that "human rights" bullshit is bullshit.

-StarDust- SG

i was from civil defend and there is 1 case in our unit

this moron was a indian and he leave Singapore to India and live there for 30+ years

the oldest recuite at age 42 was in my unit. whole day do nothing except walking around the camp. he too old to do BMT, so he was assign to clean the whole area.

You are at age 21, i dont know about your suitation

I tot 42 over age le. how can make him do NS. Also he goes to court first to get his verdict fine or jail.

storywolf SG

Actually it is a good training for idoits with no brain like you.
In this world - nothing is free, you have to work and defence things.

Human rights ? tell that to the aggressor !!! fxxk off dreamer..

Hope you get caught and jailed ... will inform the custom to look out for you !!!

noahnoah SG

sometime really bullshit when many

sg guys have to serve 2 years plus 13 yrs of reservist

while some guy trying to escape and come back

to sg as if nothing happen at all

dechang SG

don't ever bother to come to sg if you have skipped ns..

Darkness_hacker99 SG

There is only one case in singapore whereby a man skips his NS totally.

He emigrated to other country when he's a child, return back to Singaporer after 40+ years. Too old for NS. :) Classic.