I must say that a lot of views here are quite un-informed. a lot
of it appears as if people in singapore think that this cannot
happen here. i think we are all underestimating the resolve and
will of these perpetrators of hatred. do not go by what u see in
papers, as outside of singapore papers can pursue their own
agenda.
i am Indian and i have a close understanding of the indian armed
forces, which have proven time and again the ability to
fight heroically and more importantly smartly with its
enemies. one only has to look at the data coming out of
the various exercises conducted with indian and other country armed
forces, indian airforce had such a trouncing of the USAF
that they indeed had to have a relook at their own capabilites and
strategies (the key finding was how the pilots improvised while in
combat) USAF follows rigid models. also consider data
arising out of singaporean army vs indian army in its joint
exercises. i am not saying one is better than the other but i am
saying that the indian army is relatively respectable.
the oft repeated chinese incursion, and defeat of india at the
hand of chinese, one should look at facts a bit more, china
attacked india while at the same time pursuing a friendly
relationship with india (i guess only chinese can do that) timed it
with the cuban crisis and unilaterally declared ceasefire when the
cuban crisis ended. india was caught unawares as its politicians
trusted their chinese counterparts and by the time the army was
mobilised from the pakistani side, the chinese declared ceasefire,
and india would have had to declare war against china inorder to
regain the frozen desert it lost to china. india in its history has
never first attacked any country.
the biggest weakness india has is its democracy coupled with
weak political leadership. politicians in india try to enrich
themselves at the cost of thepeople, which i personally think is
the opposite of what happens in singapore.
please do not talk about these things with arrogance as this
could easily happen to any country, and the least expected it is,
the more the damage it inflicts.
the crisis in mumbai could have been handled better. i would not
ever blame the soldiers involved, they were doing their duty the
best they can. i would blame the politicians of the country.
in terms of the operations, one should before talking all the
stuff that people did before, check the facts. the israeli hostages
were killed execution style long before the operation started with
a bullet in their heads, their hands and feet were bound.
the building in which the fire fight occured is cramed between 3
other such buildings (dont think HDB, it is so much more
cramped given the bribery in bldg permits) together there were around a 1000 people in those
buildings, with all the operations going on, but
the only dead were the israeli's who were killed before the
operations started. i would think results speak better than photos,
i agree that the position of the commando in the picture posted
above is not too professional or even safe, but the focus
of the training of a voluntary army and a conscript force is
different. one also does not know the actual field conditions to
make judgements.
in the hotels the operation was not a bang bang
bang, indeed if you listened carefully in the videos, you
could hear no automatic fire, it was all semi automatic at best.
the commandos were knocking at each room, asking people to
slip out an id, asking to open doors and step aside, entering each
room, expecting to be fired upon, checking veracity of ids
and if found to be genuine escorting the hostages down into a safe
room, which was attacked by the terrorists twice (terrorists had
the advantage of more detailed intel, as they had staked the place
out well - u must go check if the SDF had complete intel and floor
plans of the panpacific before the incident - it is not fair to
compare as mumbai alone has close to 20 million people and is much
bigger than singapore) they had to do this in close to 1000
rooms in each hotel, while suppressing fire bases of the
terrorists and checking for booby traps all along. if any one
thinks these terrorists are kids with guns, they are mistaken. i
could clearly see, in the videos very trained men, ( i would think
in the american model, check out the taped magazines) providing
covering fire while moving into position, 5 steps a time each,
doing a buddy.
after all that, the nation lost only 2
commandos ( of which major sandeep died saving an injured
buddy not runnig away, dont know about the other one), and i think
that is good. it is difficult to estimate collateral damage, but
the employees of the hotel that i contacted and who were in there
told me it could have been worse. now the grenade launcher - pls
dont jump into conclusions. those were stun grenades,
definitely not frags, you could see the impact of the launches in
some of the videos, no breakage of the walls, no embedded
fragments.
JI which is a ruling coalition member in bangladesh has recently
announced that they would make sure that military training is
provided in madrasas... so i dont think we have seen enough yet
i swear he wrote all that while dancing in a flower field with
thousand of dancers at the back dancing and singing , an
extremly patriotic hindustani song (20 minutes long! FTW) with an
extremely sexy and beautiful hindustani girl
i lol'd at the bold...so melodramatic....and how many exactly
security forces casualties? 2? i dont think so?
