Are we more than prepared for a conflict, if not war?

last SG · 2008-09-21T02:08:40+00:00

Ya la, we don't need to chiong all the way to KL. I'm sure the SAF has some 3/4 tank contingency to ensure that our tankees don't accidentally drive all the...

Beaten_And_Damned SG

As we can see, heightened tensions in the region due to Pedra Branca and rivalry between the US and Russia over the issue of Georgia, i believe we have to be prepared as in go up one rung from "Standby" to operational readiness.

Our PT/91m MBTs and A4 skyhawks can be upgraded, although it may seem pointless, it is still beneficial to our needs, should we have a inter-pacific war(US landing on Georgia to clear Russian forces and push into Moscow, but i dont think it would affect South Asia.However there will still be hostility from Kremlin.

Conflicts can just be powershoving and flaunting of assets, as shown by Russia and it was very tense if not, nervy when US deployed its chinooks into Georgia to evacuate (or is it deploy Georgian forces from Iraq to thier homeland)?.Had Russian forces shot down a chinook just cause of a trigger happy RPG or Stinger A/A personnell , im sure that US will make a big hoo ha, if not threaten the use of force to clear Russian Forces out.

Right now, the stituation on Georgia is still unknown.The last i have heard is Russian Forces breaking the ceasefire and staying in Georgia.Has Georgian soveriegnity been returned ?

SingaporeTyrannosaur SG

Our PT/91m MBTs and A4 skyhawks can be upgraded, although it may seem pointless

Eh,,, PT/91M used by who you know?

Beaten_And_Damned SG

Eh,,, PT/91M used by who you know?

oops. i meant to say SM1. got confused.

Shotgun SG

SM1! Talk about a 3-letter vulgarity!

bloodsucker SG

I do believe that the SAF is prepared. They have always been, and will always be. Shit can hit the fan at any time.

gaoxingdcf07 SG

i tink SAF are ready...

they all teach us although thru simulations

but we are trained-well~~

Beaten_And_Damned SG

SM1! Talk about a 3-letter vulgarity!

Huh?

SM-1?

specfore SG

I believe we are ready. I have seen other Western armed forces at work in other countries. Their training standards are the same. In any case, peace time training only brings the soldier up to a competent level but not to a "honed" level.

What other armed forces do is that prior to executing a deliberate mission or to deploy overseas, they will get all the units together and rehearse and rehearse ... and rehearse. Sounds familiar to us SAF guys !?! These rehearsals will hopefully bring the competency level up. At least, it will iron out the coordination problems and minimise friendly fire incidents during the mission.

However, all these cannot replace combat experience. Which the SAF only has a small number of regulars who have experienced such. This is something the SAF would have to take its chances. Learn fast during the first few engagements and correct and adapt its tactics. Hopefully, we are not KO'd before then.

crimsontactics SG

Actually right, SG don't have the military capability to engage in any wars. Defence is already a big headache, much less being the offensive.

Beaten_And_Damned SG

Actually right, SG don't have the military capability to engage in any wars. Defence is already a big headache, much less being the offensive.

mm. so we have to deliver swift knock out blows to the enemy before they attack us?

something like Blitzkrieg?

crimsontactics SG

mm. so we have to deliver swift knock out blows to the enemy before they attack us?

something like Blitzkrieg?

Do we have the manpower and equipments to do that?

Beaten_And_Damned SG

Do we have the manpower and equipments to do that?

we lack the sufficient manpower, yes. so either defence/counterattack ?

crimsontactics SG

we lack the sufficient manpower, yes. so either defence/counterattack ?

Why don't we just prevent any form of conflict from occuring?

Rednano SG

we lack the sufficient manpower, yes. so either defence/counterattack ?

our open secret doctrine is Forward Defence Strategy...

boy... go read "Defending the Lion City" by Tim Huxley

Asian Aussie SG

Tim Huxley is an idiot!

And the tension between Russia and the West is nothing if you understand the history of the Cold War.

The current situation is minor and temporary at best! In a clash of superpowers, how can you justify SG going up in alert levels?

Have u seriously assessed the likelihood of war between these two titans?

Kids always dream of mega battles like video games. I'm sorry but this isn't something like C&C.

There's something called diplomacy and the realisation that war fuks your country up even if you start it.

Sepecat SG

There's something called diplomacy and the realisation that war fuks your country up even if you start it.

Ideally big powers will resort to diplomacy. Also, rational people ( politicians included ) know that war is a lose-lose situation.

Unfortunately, in reality there are madmen in this world who are politicians & they cant tthink rationally.

Otherwise, we will all not need an armed forces.

lionnoisy SG

Right now, the stituation on Georgia is still unknown.The last i have heard is Russian Forces breaking the ceasefire and staying in Georgia.Has Georgian soveriegnity been returned ?

sorry to say.U just wake up?

A4 already went into museum or deep inside storage.

"Standby" to operational readiness.

I think our Standby Force is very operational ready lah.

Following the Sept 11 attacks when security in Singapore was stepped up, the SAF's stand-by forces have been working with Home Team agencies to provide security coverage for significant international events.

http://www.mindef.gov.sg/chembiodefence/

http://www.mindef.gov.sg/imindef/news_and_events/nr/1999/may/15may99_nr.html

The 42 SAR combat team that was activated is one component of the Army's Standby Force. The SAF Standby Force, which besides the Army's Standby Force comprises RSAF fighter aircraft and RSN strike craft, is ready at all times to respond swiftly to any threat to Singapore's security.

Live rounds are loaded in 5 tons and other assets,APC,tanks.

All vehicles line up........

Do u call them Ready or Standby?

300,000 SAF comprises of about 50,000 Regulars and NS Full time,

plus 250,000 Op Ready NS.

24/7,there are at least few hundredleave the Bases

with live rounds,not heading to range!!

If situation require,Mobilisiation,

If worse,all lights in Expressways will be switched off....just in case.

kmm

rain-coat SG

sorry to say.U just wake up?

A4 already went into museum or deep inside storage.

"Standby" to operational readiness.

I think our Standby Force is very operational ready lah.

http://www.mindef.gov.sg/chembiodefence/

http://www.mindef.gov.sg/imindef/news_and_events/nr/1999/may/15may99_nr.html

Live rounds are loaded in 5 tons and other assets,APC,tanks.

All vehicles line up........

Do u call them Ready or Standby?

300,000 SAF comprises of about 50,000 Regulars and NS Full time,

plus 250,000 Op Ready NS.

24/7,there are at least few hundredleave the Bases

with live rounds,not heading to range!!

If situation require,Mobilisiation,

If worse,all lights in Expressways will be switched off....just in case.

kmm

every country would say they are ready. what defines them as ready is really the capability to respond to such threats in the shortest possible time. it is also really the intelligence that plays a part in spotting potential threats and mobilise the armed forces in time.

so its really no use copy and pasting and telling others what they already know. im sure many folks here have been through NS and they know how operationally ready the SAF is.

Arapahoe SG

i see this as 2 fold and it isn;t about if SAF is ready.

civilian leadership play a critical role as to when do we make that critical decision to "jump in"

military leadership on planning and executions. I mean is it going to be the similar screw up like the Mas Selamat case?

You can have all the scenarios but they are just scenario.

Sepecat SG

I think it is not only that SAF or civilian leadership needs to be ready. The entire nation needs to be ready.