TechX Challenge Finals - The Race Among the Bots

LRRP SG · 2008-09-25T16:30:55+00:00

LOL lionnoisy pwnage as usual.So lionnoisy, do you admit your mistake?Do you admit that you never do your homework and anyhow say things?

LRRP SG

Remember the competition from DSTA with a 1 million dollar prize money?

You can catch the competition in action here:

http://www.whatshappening.sg/events/index.php?com=detail&eID=21071&year=2008&month=9

lionnoisy SG

Popular Mechanics is the only media reports the trail.

http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/robotics/4284147.html

Top: X-1's Brice Rebsamen kneels down, praying the robot will find its way across outdoor obstacles. Left: The X-1's robot gets stuck near two trash cans. Middle: Uni-Seeker's Evolution demonstrates how it operates an elevator outside of competition. Right: FANTASTICFOUR's xWarrior gets stuck near a road barrier.

wow.This writer makes joke on SG military ability.He just thinks that

the quantity makes any nation a military superpower.He forgets quality.

Yankees still use the half a century old rifle.

--cannot make a 21 st century SSW.Remember fail of XM 29?

But SG is in the advanced stage lah,man!!

US have not delivered a USV lah.Just to name a few.

http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/robotics/4229443.html

http://www.mindef.gov.sg/imindef/mindef_websites/atozlistings/navy/assets/unmannedsurfacevehicles.html

“The RSN successfully employed the Protector USV [in 2005] for force protection when we deployed an LST [Endurance-class landing dock ship] to the Arabian Gulf in support of the multinational reconstruction effort in Iraq,” he said.

The Protector is a 30-foot-long, stealthy inflatable boat developed by Israel-based Rafael. Armed with surveillance equipment and the Typhoon close-in weapon system, it can approach suspicious craft night or day.

http://www.dsta.gov.sg/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=4205&Itemid=401

As maritime crime heats up, will the U.S. Navy follow Israel and Singapore’s lead to stock up on new unmanned surface vessels? And could they stop Al Qaeda?

http://www.sgforums.com/forums/1164/topics/314943

Where is USA's SSW?

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http://www.stengg.com/CoyCapPro/listing.aspx?pdtypeid=1

Go for military shopping if u Got money!!

SingaporeTyrannosaur SG

This writer makes joke on SG military ability.He just thinks that

the quantity makes any nation a military superpower.He forgets quality.

Yankees still use the half a century old rifle.

--cannot make a 21 st century SSW.Remember fail of XM 29?

Wow, now you are onto criticizing the US and saying how we're better? Big surprise.

But you could at least try to get your facts rights when you try to criticize...

Does Singapore have all these?

But SG is in the advanced stage lah,man!!

US have not delivered a USV lah.Just to name a few.

WRONG

Firstly the Protector is an ISRAELI invention, we are just the user.

Secondly, the USN are already using USVs for a very long time before protector, they have plenty of ROVs in their navy fleet, but even if you want to talk about USVs like Protector, they are also ahead with their own system.

US are ahead of us in USV field liao, additionally their USV is far more capable then ours:

GD Delivers First USV To US Navy For LCS

The USV has a payload capacity of 5,000 pounds, beam length of 11.2 feet and is capable of operating continuously for 24 hours or more. During high-speed transits the vehicle can reach speed of 35 knots or higher. by Staff Writers
Westminster MD (SPX) May 21, 2008
General Dynamics Robotic Systems delivered the first 11-meter "Fleet" class Anti-Submarine Warfare Unmanned Surface Vehicle (ASW USV) to the U.S. Navy on May 2 as part of the Littoral Combat Ship (LCS) mission package.

General Dynamics Robotic Systems is a part of General Dynamics Land Systems (Sterling Heights, Michigan), a business unit of General Dynamics.

General Dynamics has worked in partnership with a Navy team that includes PEO-Littoral and Mine Warfare (LMW), PMS-420 LCS Mission Package Systems, Space and Naval Warfare Systems Center, San Diego (SSC San Diego) and the Naval Undersea Warfare Center (NUWC) to design, integrate, test and deliver the USV.

A second USV will be delivered to Naval Undersea Warfare Center in Newport, Rhode Island, in June. These USVs are the first unmanned surface vehicles to ever receive hull numbers from the Navy, and will be known as "11MUC0601" and "11MUC0602," respectively.

LCS is a fast, agile, focused-mission platform designed for operation in near-shore environments to defeat asymmetric "anti-access" threats such as mines, quiet diesel submarines and fast surface craft. The ASW USV operates and supports payloads and sensor systems, including an unmanned towed-array sonar system and an active multi-static offboard low-frequency sonar system.

The General Dynamics-designed vehicle provides a high-speed, high-payload capable craft with excellent sea keeping characteristics, along with a state-of-the-art unmanned navigation and autonomous control capability that includes 360-degree situational awareness.

The USV has a payload capacity of 5,000 pounds, beam length of 11.2 feet and is capable of operating continuously for 24 hours or more. During high-speed transits the vehicle can reach speed of 35 knots or higher.

A government-developed bow latch will launch and recover the unmanned surface vehicle from the LCS. As a semi-autonomous vehicle, the USV is capable of way-point navigation, sea keeping and station keeping.

Additionally:

This is what the USAF is using to attack enemy targets.

This is what you are suggesting to "carsh" into targets:

so who's the army with less quality and quantity?

both is SAF.

I think you are the one make joke on SG military ability

SingaporeTyrannosaur SG

Also, Australian AICW

is more powerful and useful then STK SSW

why?

becos they use proven technology as well as a practical combat rifle instead of PDW for KE module.

storywolf SG

Lionnoisy – “wow.This writer makes joke on SG military ability.He just thinks that the quantity makes any nation a military superpower.He forgets quality.”

Remember this is not USA – which you can get a small radar or night vision off the commerical shelf, a lot of the items are controlled items, while in USA – they are off the shelf which anyone can buy.

lionnoisy SG

Thanks for telling me there are so many stuffs in US.

i am sorry part of my answers are here;

http://www.sgforums.com/forums/1164/topics/321267?page=4

my feed back continues:

SG is developing an unbreakable codes.

I know u are laughing.

http://www.sgforums.com/forums/1164/topics/133945

http://www.sgforums.com/forums/1164/topics/133906

when u and me chasing by a tiger

u need not run as fast as Flashing Bolt.u just need slightly

faster than me in order to survive.

Like wise in defence,We need not have the spendid

gears then we can win.

So,pl dunt use the big boys stuff to impress me.

When i think of their small arms and crew served weapons,

i cry for the wifes and mothers of the fallen soldiers.

The soldiers should have survived if they had

a better weapons which technology and budget can afford.

Australian AICW

can u share what proven technology which they have adopted?

do u think when Yankee cannot make it,can Oz make it?

this is officail photo from Metalstrom in 2005.

can they make the laser range finder smaller?

http://www.defensereview.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=781

The AICW was approved in 2001 .

http://www.minister.defence.gov.au/nelsonTpl.cfm?CurrentId=755

Ai ya!!Sg Ty!!if u want to prove oz is better,can u do somethings.

Now i have to do for u !!

This one looks much better,but sources cannot be vertified.

http://www.vostokstation.com.au/Advanced%20Individual%20Combat%20Weapon.pdf

http://www.sgforums.com/forums/1164/topics/314943

STK= Singapore Technology Kinetcis

I think the above two looks not so bulky.

Oz starts to replace SLR L1A1 by F88 Austeyr from 1989.

SAR 21 was launched 10 years later.

http://www.vostokstation.com.au/Advanced%20Individual%20Combat%20Weapon.pdf

The F88 Austeyr is a derivative of the Austrian designed Steyr AUG assault rifle. The F88 replaced the SLR L1A1 in the early 1990's, the L1A1 is also a derived design of the FN FAL. The first non Special Forces unit to be issued with the F88 was the 6RAR, who received them in January 1989.

http://www.mindef.gov.sg/imindef/news_and_events/nr/1999/sep/11sep99_nr.html

So,i dunt think SG is very far behind Oz in rifle technology ,

if not on par!!Anyway Steyr is designed by Austrian,not Australian.

launched in 1999----designed and made in Jurong,Singapore!!

SLR L1A1

many third world country are still using it.SOF in some countries

are reported also using it.

UK adopted SA 80 to replace SLR from around 1985.

mmm

SingaporeTyrannosaur SG

You just posted one entire thread of rubbish:

Australian AICW

can u share what proven technology which they have adopted?

do u think when Yankee cannot make it,can Oz make it?

AICW is not OICW, noisy but toothless lion.

Instead of creating the OICW from scratch with new and unproven technology, the Aussies are coming up with something similar with current technology. If the Belgians can make the FN2000, the AICW is not an issue.

They mated thier proven Aug rifle with their metalstorm technology, the AICW is created entirely out of things that can work.

AFAIK the AICW is a lot closer to completion then the SSW, in terms of concept and technology, as well as cost savings.

Additionally, the AICW has more firepower then the SSW in terms of the KE module. The SSW user is limited by his small PDW-style module while the AICW user can function like a proper rifleman.

If you ask me STK is making a mistake with the SSW, they should make something similar to the AICW, using the SAR-21 frame with the Australian metalstorm GL, making something that is far more useful.

this is officail photo from Metalstrom in 2005.

can they make the laser range finder smaller?

You have no idea what you are talking about... never heard of proof-of-concept ah?

if not on par!!Anyway Steyr is designed by Austrian,not Australian.

launched in 1999----designed and made in Jurong,Singapore!!

What's the point of designing your own stuff unless it is for the experience?

Is the SAR-21 any better then other rifles out there? No.

Is it inferior in many ways? Yes.

The good thing about the SAR-21 is that it gives us experience in making our own weapon, but it's not really an achivement as far as making a GOOD rifle goes.

Also, how come the SAR-21 has not been improved much in the last 9 years and non of the variants that allow our soldier to fight better have been distributed in our front line units?

This is a failure of the system.

SingaporeTyrannosaur SG

STK= Singapore Technology Kinetcis

I think the above two looks not so bulky.

The last time you said something like that, you said that FANTAIL was the smallest UAV in the world.

Basically the SSW cheats, it is simply a GL with a small PWD below, the AICW uses a full fledged assualt rifle, so if anything one could argue the SSW is too BULKY for its size.

SingaporeTyrannosaur SG

Also you tried to suggest that Singapore is ahead of the US in unmanned technology, which is really laughable.

Firstly we had little to do with Protector, we simply used what the Israelis innovated.

Secondly, the US has been testing and deploying plenty of unmanned technology:

I have yet to see STK really come up with anything that can challange this, nor do I think they will.

But you want them to right? Too bad you are not their CEO.

lionnoisy SG

Sg Ty has a very respect for Oz defence technology

can i ask him what similiar products that Oz compaines

can make from this list.

He can include the Oz branch of US defence giants.

But i think it is not Oz own capability.

I know Oz can make noisy sub with defective Combat System.

My claim are fully supported by Oz offical reports.

u can sue me!!The docking of 4 of the 6 Oz subs may be caused

by this defective Combat System or the completion

of new docking facility.Pl read ASC site.

So,are u ready to answer?

I just show u Land Sys.

http://www.stengg.com/CoyCapPro/listing.aspx?pdtypeid=1

Product list for Land Sys only.(some non--military products are deleted)

the above is Product list for Land Sys only.

(some non--military products are deleted)

Except few large platforms,u can name any products!!

we just need sensors and weapons to detect,identify,track

and kill hostile targets within few hundred km radius.

So,for the time being,no need to make longer range stuff.

This list is not a show off.Some of u just put a cross

to every item---All are rubbish,u may think.

But to other watching us,this list show SG is very serious

in defence.This message is loud and clear.

We are damn serious in defence and we are ready.Full Stop.

This is alreday a deterrence,right?

kkk

SingaporeTyrannosaur SG

Wow you are so desperate you must list ammunition under our "innovations" ah?

You really are funny

SingaporeTyrannosaur SG

Hmmm

SingaporeTyrannosaur SG

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lionnoisy SG

If the Belgians can make the FN2000, the AICW is not an issue.

can u confirm FN 2000 is fully developed and in production?

2.What unmanned technology has USA applied in war?

3.The Yankees have few tactical UAV ,similiar to our stocks.

We are short of UAV with weapons!!

But we have Fantail which Yankees dunt have!!

The vertical launched UAV which u have shown us

is very big!!

Fantail

http://www.af.mil/factsheets/index.asp

http://www.af.mil/factsheets/factsheet.asp?id=10446

http://www.af.mil/factsheets/factsheet.asp?fsID=6405

We are short of UAV with weapons!!

SingaporeTyrannosaur SG

Native Australian technology improves JDAM performance

SingaporeTyrannosaur SG

OAVD

SingaporeTyrannosaur SG

Locally innovated NBC suit

SingaporeTyrannosaur SG

can u confirm FN 2000 is fully developed and in production?

You even dare to ask this question?

Do your homework, the FN 2000 has a production and deployement run SEVERAL times that our our SAR-21.

Users

2.What unmanned technology has USA applied in war?

3.The Yankees have few tactical UAV ,similiar to our stocks.

We are short of UAV with weapons!!

WRONG!

The US have applied UGVs in the war in Iraq to significant sucess.

And their tactical UAV technology and experience is way ahead of us.

But we have Fantail which Yankees dunt have!!

The vertical launched UAV which u have shown us

is very big!!

WRONG

They have a SMALLER UAV that they have ALREADY used in battle.

wrong

your entire post is full of errors.