Originally posted by dinky1409:
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Hey there.. I agree with your points and I would not agree to
extreme uses of the cane but it shouldn't be taken out of the
school system completely. It's true about the students who tucks
out and smoke. But if the disciplinary system in the school is
going to be purely non-physical, its quite logical to say these
example students are going to increase in numbers and together with
the fact that the media and society is getting more liberal, the
increase would be at an alarming rate!
Yes most of us will become parents in future. But you forget too,
that probably both parents will be working. In an example of a
typical day. I bet you the majority of the day you have no idea
what the child is doing. He/she will be in school most of the time.
One day, how would you feel if your child comes home, and he told
you to fuck off? The chances of this happening is becoming more and
more likely if the schooling system starts to go easy on them.
Counselling or the cane in the principal office? Which would
probably help to prevent such a case from happening to you in
future? It might happen, I'm not saying its not, but shouldn't
steps be taken to reduce the chances of it happening? And in this
case, a proper disciplinary system in the school?
Taking myself as an example. I have thought about it before. Both
my parents was still working when I was a kid. Most of the
childhood was spent with my cousins. Elder cousin taught us how to
shoplift. (Bubblegums at that time) I knew it was wrong but I was
too young to understand the implications of such act. Until one
day, my elder brother caught me shoplifting an eraser. I proudly
showed him ( a rare country eraser at that time) and he was shocked
and scolded me. I got scared and threw it away.
Yes he didn't use violence here but that's not my point. I don't
emphasise on violence as a solution. I emphasise the point of
instilling of fear so as to prevent wrongdoings. For our purpose,
the cane is that tool of fear, rather than "sunshine rainbow" rooms
for counselling.
Parents are of course the most important
stakeholder in a child's upbringing. Never denied that. But
education is important too. Trained animals? If you think about it
properly, all of us ARE trained animals. Not convince? Laws,
regulations, guidelines, societal norms, ethical standards,
cultural practices, moral standards kept us trained, my friend. I
don't propose the extremes of caning or corporal punishments even
for the slightest things. I'm just concerned that as society
becomes more liberal, shouldn't schools be more tougher in terms of
disciplining the kids instead of getting more
lenient?[/b]
I agree except for the last paragraph.
Humans cannot be classified as trained animals. Humans are capable
of complexed cognitive processes which far surpasses any other
animals.
Laws, regulations, ethical standards and so on are set because we
have shaped the modern world ourselves, and we need something to
remind ourselves to keep it this way.
If human moulds everything we have today, how can we be trained?
ethics, laws, bla bla bla are all set to cope with the ever
evolving cognitive processes, not to set us in place.
