If you say you can shoot pretty well with a basic SAR-21 -
that the point - it does perform well as a basic infantry rifle as
what it is design for - cheap and good = Yes.
Nobody said that the SAR-21 can't peform well as a basic
infantry rifle, we are just pointing out from our experience with
it that it leaves much to be desired, and certainly does not
deserve much of the bragging rights that ST tries to claim for
it.
In any case, I'll still take it any day over the M-16S1, but
I'll dump the basic SAR-21 anyday for an advanced variant of
it.
You say compare to other comparable firearms - their sights is
more advance ? Are you comparing the basic version of them to
SAR-21 or the add-on versions ? if you want add on version then
take the p-rail version of SAR-21 to compare. M16 with p-rail
with ACOG is not the plain version !!!
The point is then, why is the SAF not using that variant? Hmmm.
It's certainly not because they don't have the means.
I have no argument with the MMS or P-Rail SAR, or even the LW
Carbine which comes with better sights, the problem seems to be
that you can't seem to accept the fact that the SAF is not making
full use of the SAR-21 and trying to argue instead that what we
have now is the best that it can be.
And don't try to dodge your old arguments, in the Tavor thread
you argued yourself blue (and lost badly) trying to argue that the
basic SAR-21 sighting solution was superior to MMS systems like
P-rail. I remember you ran through a lot of bizzare arguments like
"those who cannot shoot with 1.5X are weak", or that "1.5x is more
reliable then modular systems" and what have you not.
You yourself have prove that with primitive scope you shoot
well. Not every army is like US army - which afford p-rails, most
of them just take the basic version.
How much of our GDP do we spend on defence?
Are you telling me that we can sell better versions of the SAR
to other users who actually spend LESS then our nation on the
military but can't afford to equip our own troops with it?
The basic thing I see, is not that the SAF is short of cash or
anything, but simply because it's a big case of wayang to me.
Nobody want's to rock the boat to make any huge improvements to the
basic SAR the SAF grunt gets because nobody is really going to make
a lot of money for ST from doing that as well the SAF being too
lazy to implement something like retraining and retooling to get
our grunts to shoot with better stuff.
But in the meantime, the SAF grunt is using a weapon that is
becoming slowly outdated in the modern arms market. He is limited
to using a 1.5x scope that has no proper night fighting abilities
leaving him to rely on a very untactical LAD to achieve that
end.
