F16Ds SEAD Weapons

Sepecat SG

It's called sarcasm ... do I have to explain that too?

You still cannot explain the TM on Real Life. This clearly means you do not know what you wrote.

I bet you cant explain meaning of sarcasm since you cant explain the TM thingy.

Sepecat SG

Encik needs to stay current. RBS-70 is not exactly state-of-the art technology anymore. There are passive missile launch sensors these days, and the RBS-70 doesn't really have that fantastic a reach.

Encik may be right. You will need a laser warning receiver to know that you got pained by an RBS 70. Do we have these on our fighters ?

RBS 70 still a great weapon. It cud be hard to spoof with the man with its man in the loop fire control.

Shotgun SG

There are several drawbacks with laser guided systems like the RBS-70.

Firstly, aircraft manuevering at tactical airspeeds isn't exactly easy to track.

Secondly, the man in the loop fire control also means that it engages one target at one time.

Laser warning receivers are common implementations on Attack Choppers. And certain systems also allow aircraft like the F-16s to detect passive launched weapons, even IR guided ones.

It definitely a good system to ambush close air support flights though. But I wouldn't want to stay "in the loop" after shooting off one. Cos once my missile goes off, I'll be on the receiving end of a Mk-20 or equivalent.

38 SG

HARM : You need them for "shoot outs." RWR yells at you, missiles in the air, SHOOT the HARM. (Those over the shoulder launches bring a tear to my eye....)

JDAM : RWR Naked, you get information from ELINT / SIGINT / COMMINT ppl that there's a StraightFlush radar at the mentioned coordinates. Fly high and fast, and drop the JDAM.

Different weapon, different purpose. Apply them wrongly, and you have a dead pilot.

Nobody knows what other devious plans the ADA ppl have up their sleeves in real life, no need to say online discussion.

In USAF terms:

HARM: cued by RWR or other means-- Suppress Enemy Air Defense-SEAD.

JDAM: cued by Elint/Sigint/Commint by means of VLBI or LBI to geo-locate the hostile SAM's radar---Destruct Enemy Air Defense--DEAD

Yankees are evil enough to upgrade the current SEAD version of HARM to DEAD version of Harm by adopting the technologies used widely by PGMs.

Shotgun SG

Thats about correct.

SEAD's by nature a "Reactionary" type, while DEAD is when you go out and actively destroy the site whether it emitting or not.

However, I wouldn't want to carryout a DEAD mission without a SEAD flight or a 2 HARMs at least for safe measure. DEAD sorties do have HARMs as well, unless they are being covered by a SEAD escort.

Oh yeah, I did hear something about the E-model of the HARM. Behaves like a Hellfire during its terminal phase. I guess that killed any possibility of a ARM-capability for the AIM-120D.

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