Our armour indeed has the same problems as the ADF. The SAF is
not fully into 3G yet and 3G itself has a lot of problems. There a
lots of projects ongoing to sort out the problems we faced
currently. I can't elaborate more. Even the Battlefield Management
System currently used has its own limitations. How effective and
how efficient it will be depends on the radio sets and you know how
old our radios are. All those pretty pictures needs a lot of
bandwidth and sending a single text message on the old 600 series
radios takes 15 mins to reach the other bugger. The other fact is
that you can jam up the whole data net just by sending voice comms!
Our SAF do has its share of the problems. I'm not surprised if we
will be getting newer and more powerful radios soon.
For some reason all this is lost on lionnoisy, going by his
logic then our 3G transformation is nothing but a waste of millions
of dollars and years of time because it is still not ready to fight
in a war tomorrow.
In lionnoisy's world, war happen without any reason and can
happen any day.
Going by his kind of logic, noisylion can make the exact same
post about the SAF:
Originally posted by
noisylion:
I really cant understand how sg SAF operates and how
serious
they treats defense matters.
They retired SM1 tanks and claimed
Leopard 2A4
MAIN Battle tank and Bionix 2 digital
IFV
is ready for action.
for 3G battlefield
But now,crews of the tanks like Leopard n Bionix cant
talk to
other infantries and other units!!
Comms jam just by sending voice comms
Bionix also too small for armour troopers wearing now LBV
LBV also too hot, soldiers can get heat stroke
Shall they tried the new tanks more extensively before they
retired the old SM1 tanks?
What if there is a major threat at the door step?
THE
Promises
BIONIX 2 WILL BE ABLE TO OPERATE IN THE NEW 3G BATTLEFIELD
ALONGSIDE OTHER UNITS
LEOPARD 2A4 INTERGRATED INTO ARMOURED FORCES OF SAF IN 3G
BATTLEFIELD
SAF UNDERGOS 3G TRANSFORMATION INTO FULLY NETWORKED FIGHTING
FORCE
The
Reality
" I think ST forgot that when sitting
in the bionix, we're wearing the stupid load bearing vest and
therefore its near impossible to fit 7 people in the back.
Its a good thing most sections (in my company anyway) are always
not filled. There are always people on medical excuse, or people
who have posted out and left their sections short. The latest field
camp for example, my vehicle sat 3 people in the back, instead of
7.
I think the theory of armour infantry is good one. Cos we're mostly
running around in a forested environment, tanks on their own will
get blown up by the more stealthy infantry on foot. Armour infantry
creates a highly mobile form of infantry that is supported by the
fire power of a 25mm or 30mm cannon. But in reality, the infantry
when dismounted is carrying so much gear and so much weight in
weapons that we can't move that quickly on foot and are very
quickly tired out. In a standard 6 man dismounted section (1 guy in
the section had a platoon level role, like my vehicle carries the
PC's runner) , the section leader carries his nightvision optics,
radio, etc. Not very bulky or heavy stuff, but on top of the
loadbearing vest, its not the lightest thing in the world. I carry
the bitch of a machinegun, the seciton 2IC carries a bag with my
machine gun rounds, sparebarrel, and machine gun cleaning kit, all
of which put in a bag never designed to carry such stuff so the
barrel sticks out and gets caught on trees and keep ripping the
zipper open so the bag is not only heavy but also damn cumbersome
and frustrating to carry. 1 guy carries the heavy MATADOR antitank
missile. 1 guy carrying section automatic weapon is supposed to
carry 18 magazines (but no one actually does that). And the last
guy has his bandoleer of m203 grenade rounds awkwardly strapped
around his chest (in theory, but the M203 gunner has never been
issued M203 rounds, even dummies, during outfield.
In any case, they'll be damn easy to
lose and the there'll be hell to pay and extras to sign if anything
is lost.)
Basically, in theory we
have load of firepower. In practice, we're damn weighted
down. All the
above is on top of a poorly designed LBV, meant to be modular and
flexible such that pouches can be shifted around and customised
according to needs. What really happens is that the battalion
standardises the arrangement of the pouches, so its quite pointless
making it modular. What also really happens is that all the
pouches, especially the large rear pouch, bounce around, making the
entire fucking LBV jump around when we have to run. The LBV also
covers large upper body surface area, trapping heat, and I usually
get heat rash by the 2nd day of field camp, definitely by the 3rd
day. The straps to secure the pouches to the vest are located in
the centre of the pouch, such that the extreme top and bottom ends
of the pouch is not secured, and the whole thing bobs up and down,
made worse because we're expected to stuff the rear pouch with our
bulky waterproof jacket, SOP box (containing, safety pins, black
tape, spare torch, etc and a whole host of stuff we'll never use),
arc of fire sticks, etc. The stupid water bottle pouch bounces like
crazy on the right rear side as well, and the toggle rope strapped
below the left side causes abrasion.
The water bag, designed to be in the
rear, of the lbv, traps loads of heat, and because it pushes the
large rear pouch away from the body even more, causes the pouch to
bounce more. Nobody really uses it.
When seated in the vehicle, the rear pouch means we dun sit all the
way back on the bench, and our legs are cramped up against those
facing us. The solution is to remove the LBV in the vehicle, but if
a full section is mounted, its way too cramped to perform such a
complex move in the vehicle. Heck, even reaching to get our water
bottle is damn troublesome in the vehicle. Wearing the LBV in the vehicle means
that wearing the seat belt like we are supposed to is truly
impossible. The Bionix 2 has 4 point seatbelts, in theory, it
should strap us down in case of a sideturn or overturn of the
vehicle. In practice, nobody I know has ever used it. At
least the Bionix 1 never had such pretensions of safety.
But I bet if some poor chaps die in a vehicle
over turn of the Bionix 2, the army we'll probably say they were
not following safety regulations by not wearing their
seatbelts."
Going by lionnoisy's own logic, the SAF is an
ineffective fighting force that does not take it's job
seriously.
I think before you start up another topic only to get pwned
lionnoisy, I think you better think if your arguments apply to the
SAF as well, because usually by starting all these topics to slime
Australia you usually end up having people who know their stuff
reveal the truth in here, and it actually turns out that the ADF is
not only much, much better then you try to put it to be, but also
superior to our own SAF!
I am frankly quite amazed that you don't realize that instead of
bringing down the reputation of the ADF in this forum, you are
actually helping to build it as well as bringing down the
reputation of the SAF at the same time for the simple reason you
can't seem to deal with this thing called common sense and truth.
And the truth is if you try to be very negative about the ADF,
people will see it far better then you want them to see it as, and
if you are irrationally positive about the SAF, people can easily
see all its faults because your idea of the SAF is simply too
unrealistic.
What have you done in here except make the ADF look good by your
lame behaviour because your attempts to slime it always fail when
the facts are brought out by the people who know their stuff, and
add more dirt to the SAF?
