S'pore to receive its first F-15 jet soon

last SG · 2008-06-11T15:10:01+00:00

most likely be based at plab or changi rite?damn. i can only see tengah craft from here

SBS7484P SG

wait wait wait.

aren't the F15's a step lower than the F16's?

someone once told me tat lousier ones = one step lower..

seems that he's wrong.

Shotgun SG

Nope. The F-15 perform better than the F-16s in the air to air arena but has limited air to ground abilities. The F-16 is like a multitool. It does every damn thing.

The F-15SGs, have very good air to ground abilities, and handles well if configured for air to air as well. With its newer radar and avionics, its probably better than our F-16s. Of course, the F-16 can still do everything ELSE better than the F-15SG.

duotiga83 SG

go read what AESA radar potential is...is a leap of technology.......

zaxis SG

those landed a while ago, our new F15? PLA

Shotgun SG

Picture please. =D

LazerLordz SG

PLAB? Most likely USAF lah.

storywolf SG

those landed a while ago, our new F15? PLA

that the usual f-15 US squadren that is base in PLA.

storywolf SG

SU27 & SU33 rules the skies !!

Yep SU27 & SU33 rules the skies !! - that is if they have the spare parts to keep it in the air : )

specialOps SG

A few SU-27, Su-30s don't rule the skies.

Its an entire airforce the enemy will be against. Complete with intelligence, combined-arms, C4i network, multi-layer, multi-platform and more reliable and proven weapons, added to that pilot skill and actual flying hour experiences and training with the very best.

Anyway the F-15 is not a better dogfight, but it is a better BVR fighter than the F-16 because of its better radar. In dog-fighting, it just about matches the F-16 in performance.

The main advantage of the F-15SG is not in air-to-air, although it is extremely capable. Its advantage lies in the ability to carry a high payload (higher than F-16 or F/A-18), able to deliver it long range, and still fight as a good air-to-air fighter.

That's like our multi-role F-16D/52+, but with even higher payload, longer range and better weapons.

Shotgun SG

Yeah, let them have their fantasy. Yes yes, Su-27s rule the skies.

I wonder where the Syrian ones went when the Israeli Air Force F-16s and F-15s attacked that Yongbyon clone back in April 2008?

Or the time when USAF F-117s supposedly dropped a Tactical Nuke on another Syrian nuke facility in early September 2007?

Su-27s rule the skies... yeah of course they do.

Display Name SG

should have gone for the F35A. but doubt that we can buy. highly sensitive ...

US agree to sell to many countries like Israel, Japan, Europe already. But singapore can't get it, because they don't treat singapore as close ally.
Like that might as well buy JAS39 Gripen, even more powerful than F15.

foxtrout8 SG

who says Singapore cant get it?

what u mean by gripen even more powerful than F15?

bloodsucker SG

Not true. Singapore is same situation as Israel. Both are security participants in the F-35 project. So they'd both be able to buy F-35. And get ur facts right, the Gripen is not more powerful than F-15. It all depends on what aspects u are comparing. U compare thrust power? Firepower? Manoevrability? Payload? The F-15 SG is good, otherwise u think RSAF will take Gripen off its selection so early? Gripen is good in its own rights, but then it doesnt fit Singapore requirements.

sgf SG

Don't be a dick. Firstly F-35 is not even on sale yet. Secondly as a security coop participant, S'pore can opt to buy it if they wish. Thirdly JAS39 is NOT more powerful than F15. Whoever says it is must either be ignorant or on weed. I'm guessing you fall in BOTH categories.

bloodsucker SG

Eh bro u quite the rude ah? haha cmon give him a break... No need to call people dicks lah. Chill man its just that some people are not that well-informed thats all.

specialOps SG

Do your research before you speak.

The JAS-39 Gripen claims they're the first 4th-generation fighter to be operational...but look at the facts...they're 4th-gen because of the year it was built, not in terms of technology.

Just take a look why nobody who can afford a F-16 will opt for a JAS-39? JAS-39 only picked up by third world countries who can't afford F-16.

AND the F-15 is better than the F-16, so basic human intelligence will you, both F-15 and F-16 beats the JAS-39.

And i'm not bullshitting, just look at how much payload the JAS-39 can take vs the F-15 and F-16, what kinda radar it can take, and what is the effective combat range? And weapon compatibility...u'll realise the Gripen is like a poor man's F-16 or a bigger F-5.

Once again, you look at what RSAF has been doing these days. They are getting F-16/52+, with CFT for long-range strike, and they bought F-15SG for EVEN LONGER range strike + even better beyond-visual-range air-to-air.

Gripen? Oh please....

specialOps SG

To add on a little, I'm not saying Gripen is crap. It was designed by Sweden for Swedish's defence needs, and its capable for that.

but for the rest of the world, with F-15 and F-16 to choose....Gripen is nowhere near.

duotiga83 SG

Please see Gripen NG

CM06 SG

Not to be spoilt sport. NG BG RG PG i dont think we really care. Most important is XXX-I. I for icecream.

Display Name SG

I agree that F15 payload is higher than JAS 39, but given the facts that singapore's air space is so small, there really isn't a need for RSAF jets to carry so much weapons and fly so far away. So spending money for the far distance is quite a waste.

Furthermore, though F15 radar detection range is a bit longer than JAS 39, but F15 RCS is much bigger than JAS 39, which means it is very likely that a JAS 39 detect another F15 before the F15 detect it.

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