Will SAF convert leopard A4 to A 6 standard

last SG · 2007-09-28T22:50:42+00:00

Got! Its capable of operating in NBC environment.

seancannot SG

I know they have different gun , but the extra set of armor at the turret make it really sleek Very Happy

alwaysdisturbed SG

sleek for who to see.

eventually the cost will come to us. don't put better. save cost.

ditzy SG

It'll be real sleek, unless you're the one asked to care for it. Laughing

seancannot SG

It serve a purpose !

alwaysdisturbed SG

what purpose? i don't see the need within the century.

LazerLordz SG

It's fine by everyone if ditzy is the one who has to go back to ICT and face this mutha. Twisted Evil

Atobe SG

Jane's Defense Issue 31 - 1 August 2007 reported ''Dutch defence ministry plans selling spree''.

Singapore can stand to benefit from this Dutch effort to raise revenue to balance their operating budget to maintain their military presence in Afghanistan, Bosnia, and the Carribean.

The selling spree include :

18 F16 A/B from a fleet of 90,

12 of its 36 brand-new Krauss-Maffel Wegmann PzH 2000 self-propelled 155mm howitzers,

some 28 Leopard 2A6 MBTs from a fleet of 88.

CM06 SG

Welcome Atobe to Milnuts. Noticed your recent activity!

With regards to what we can actually purchase from the Dutch i would say there's actually very little.

Their F-16s are different in version AND setup.

We do not have tactical use of 12 Pzh2000 when we can just build and train even more units of Primus.(no need more regular to go first learn how to use those)

Dutch L2A6 may mean we have to strip down certain upgrades to A4 then reupgrade to our Singapore L2AX standard. Besides, i think the German Army still have some more for us to buy as real assets, training and "spares" Mr. Green

tankee1981 SG

I agree with CM06, I think the L2A6 is a good upgrade but may not suit Singapore's needs. I think we should get more A4 to be upgraded to other Singapore models in the future, for example we can convert a heavy IFV from the chasis of the L2A4 like what the Israelis did to their T-54/T-55 and Merkava MK1s. Very Happy

http://www.israeli-weapons.com/weapons/vehicles/armored_personnel_carriers/namera/Namera.htm

http://www.israeli-weapons.com/weapons/vehicles/armored_personnel_carriers/achzarit/Achzarit.html

Atobe SG

Somehow the recent issues at the Political Forum seems to be less stimulating, and find my regular visits to the Milnuts for updates to be more interesting lately. I had occassionaly posted at Milnuts in the past but have not contributed anything substantial for more then a year plus.

You are certainly correct with your views of incorporating the Dutch hardware into the SAF.

Although the quantities maybe small - if the price is right, and putting the obsolete F-16 A/B types out of consideration, the SAF can find some use for the other two land equipment to fit into the Orbat, or for some DSTA-SAF study to improve our indigeneous military design and engineering.

DSTA and SAF have quite an assortment of equipment that they test with, before coming up with newer locally developed equivalent custom built for the SAF.

LazerLordz SG

The 2A6’s main gun barrel may be a barrier to operation in our dense jungle conditions.

beavan SG

i think the A4 already has problems operating in our forests.

CM06 SG

With regards to the F-16s most likely Chile?(i think) might pick up the slack since they did purchase the previous F-16s from the Dutch.

Regards to "local" produced items. we have plenty of collaboration with you know who. More funds = more chance of something good coming up. If we are building our own aircrafts then i would say buying those planes to strip down and play around would be a worthwhile venture.

As to our A4 with problems in the forest terrain, we go looking for Armour's best friend...without them, Armour ops will be at best half baked. The mighty capable and reliable Armoured Engineers units. Hehe. Where there was no road, there is now a highway!

Shotgun SG

Advance and Overcome!

Yeah, the A6 barrels are a tad bit too long. Even if we do not acquire the A6's for operational usage, getting some for spares as well as to study the spaced armor is useful as well.

As for the F-16A/Bs from the dutch, err, I doubt so even if they are the MLUs. We just got rid of our F-16A/Bs, i doubt we'd get some more.

I doubt SG will gain a lot from the Dutch garage sale. At best a couple of A6s. F-16s, no-no. IIRC, the dutch are not allowed to export the weapons that their F-16s operate as well.

Orcishwarrior SG

IMO, Singapore will definitely upgrade its 2A4 into 2A6 or Higher "2A6SG" Very Happy
honestly i wont be surprising seeing a few 2A6 when the last Leopard 2 is being delivered.

spartan6 SG

Unlikely, A5 maybe or even more likely is Leo2SG

21Alpha SG

Leopard 2SM1 Smile

beavan SG

i think you love SM alot. Mr. Green

tankee1981 SG

Yeah! Singapore Modified One! Very Happy

Bionic Animals SG

Upgrade come with airconditioning or not????